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20 The <strong>Armenian</strong> <strong>Reporter</strong> | November 22, 2008ArmeniaDecember 7, 198820 years on“The buildings <strong>we</strong> constructed did notmeet the seismic standards of Armenia”Vladimir Movsisianrecalls the tragicdays of theearthquakeIn December 1988, when the devastatingearthquake shook Armenia,Vladimir Movsisian was the deputyprime minister. As a high-ranking officialhe personally participated in ef<strong>for</strong>tsto manage the wreckage left bythe earthquake. Mr. Movsisian’s p<strong>are</strong>ntalhome in the village of Shenavanwas located just a few kilometersaway from the village of Shirakamut,which was the epicenter of the earthquake.Mr. Movsisian’s brother anddozens of his relatives died during thedisaster.A few days ago Mr. Movsisianturned 75. After serving as deputyprime minister, he was, from April1990, first secretary of the CentralCommittee of the Communist Party ofArmenia, which was the highest postin Soviet Armenia. For a short time hewas the deputy agriculture ministerof the Soviet Union. After the collapseof the Soviet Union, he remained inpolitics and became head of the departmentthat handled refugee issuesin independent Armenia, governor ofthe Gegharkunik province, and, <strong>for</strong>three years, minister of agriculture.The <strong>Armenian</strong> <strong>Reporter</strong>’s Tatul Hakobyanspoke to Mr. Movsisian <strong>this</strong><strong>we</strong>ek.<strong>Armenian</strong> <strong>Reporter</strong>: Mr. Movisisian,prior to talking to youI once again <strong>we</strong>nt though yourmemoir. A section in the bookis about the December 1988earthquake. I have read numerousbooks and articles about theearthquake and heard the tragicstories of hundreds of people,but I was profoundly moved by<strong>this</strong> sentence from your memoir:“Even today I cannot <strong>for</strong>get thatduring my brother’s funeral, atruck was transporting about fiveto six children’s coffins, and thetruck was follo<strong>we</strong>d by five to sixpeople.” Today, 20 years after thetragedy, what do you recall whenyou talk about the earthquake?Comprehensive insurancecoverage <strong>for</strong> investorsProperty and CasualtyCargoAutoVladimir Movsisian: T<strong>we</strong>ntyyears ago our nation <strong>we</strong>nt thoughyet another tragedy in its history.The devastating earthquake tookthe lives of 26,000 of our compatriots.Thousands of people becamehomeless. Thousands of familiesbecame orphans, suffocated, or<strong>we</strong>re disabled.Your risk is our businessA personal tragedyFor me December 7, 1988, is justlike yesterday, as that disaster hasbeen strongly imprinted in mybrain. Maybe <strong>this</strong> is because I livedthe tragedy twice. I consider myselfa patriot, and I lived the disasterwith my nation. I also had a personaltragedy. My relatives, mybrother, my paternal uncle, andmy maternal aunt’s sons: 57 peopledied in just a few seconds. I do notsay <strong>this</strong> so that people feel sorry<strong>for</strong> me. No, I do not like pity, asevery person has his own destiny,his grief, his burden, and shouldbear his own cross. Recently myson passed away. [Vahagn Movsisianwas Armenia’s ambassador toChina when he died.] Every personshould be able to bear and confrontthe blows of destiny. If you fail tobear them, destiny will throw youdown and crush you. That is my nature,which comes from the characterof our nation.Overcoming disasters is in ournation’s genes, which <strong>we</strong> have inheritedfrom generation to generation.During the earthquake, ournation bore the disaster.Let me bring the example of PaylakKarapetian, one of the eldersin our family. He lived in our village,Shenavan (in the Spitak districtof Lori province). During theearthquake he lost his wife, son,daughter, and 13 grandchildren.When some time had passed afterthe earthquake, I asked him howhe had survived. (He was removedfrom under the ruins.) He ans<strong>we</strong>redthat the Gospels had savedhim. In 1915, during the <strong>Armenian</strong>Genocide, he had brought the Gospelsprinted in Venice, which is intheir house to <strong>this</strong> day, from Kars,hidden against his chest.I asked him, “How <strong>are</strong> you goingto bear <strong>this</strong> pain?” <strong>And</strong> he ans<strong>we</strong>redthat he still had 12 years tolive until he turned 100. He saidthat he had to live, no matter what.<strong>And</strong> he lived 44 days less than 100years. Surviving is in our nation’sgenes.Secondly, our nation has aunique character. When MikhailGorbachev came to Gyumri a fewdays after the earthquake, peopleasked him about Karabakh. He gotangry and told them that he hadgone to Gyumri to ask them howhe could help. But people had putaside their grief and <strong>we</strong>re askinghim when he was going to solvethe Karabakh issue. Our people’spersonal lives come after nationalissues. I am proud of our nation’stenacity <strong>for</strong> life.AR: When did you find out aboutthe earthquake?VM: The Bureau of Armenia’sCentral Committee was in sessionthat day. The deputy prime ministerof the USSR was in Yerevan. I wasto present a report on the resultsof resettling the refugees [who hadfled Azerbaijan during the courseof 1988.] At 11:45 a.m., the CentralCommittee building also shook.The Bureau session was terminated.A little later <strong>we</strong> found out that avery strong earthquake had takenplace in the north of Armenia.The prioritiesAR: How did the Soviet Union respond?Was Moscow prep<strong>are</strong>d toconfront such a disaster?VM: Right after the earthquakea headquarters was set up, led byNikolai Ryzhkov, the premier ofthe USSR. They <strong>we</strong>re working onthe main issues.The first was saving lives works,clearing the rubble, and providingmedical help to the injured.The second was finding shelter<strong>for</strong> those who had suffered, sincethousands of people <strong>we</strong>re lefthomeless. In order to provide shelter<strong>for</strong> people, Armenia’s hotels,sanatoria and schools <strong>we</strong>re used.We organized the transportationof temporary housing (domiks) toArmenia from all over the SovietUnion. Apart from that, thousandsof people found shelter in differentparts of the USSR.Short term coverage<strong>for</strong> visitorsTravelIn Country MedicalAutoRenter’s InsuranceVladimir Movsisian. Photo: Photolure.The third main issue was startingthe renovation ef<strong>for</strong>ts in the disasterzone. A lot of work was carriedout, headed by Nikolai Ryzhkov.He lived through the tragedy of theearthquake with us. Apart fromhelping Armenia economically, materially,and financially, Ryzhkovalso sh<strong>are</strong>d the grief and lived thetragedy. He was shocked and dideverything to restore the economyas soon as possible.SubstandardconstructionAR: Why did the earthquake causedamage on that scale? Today muchis being written and said about howmore could have been done to reducethe numbers of dead.VM: It was a very strong earthquake.It is not a secret that thequality of the construction did notmeet the standards set <strong>for</strong> a seismiczone. There <strong>we</strong>re two reasons<strong>for</strong> that.First of all there was a SovietUnion–wide norm <strong>for</strong> apartmentconstruction: the price of a squ<strong>are</strong>meter should not exceed 180 rubles.You could not exceed that sum. Inother words, from the very beginning,the norm of constructing lowqualityand seismically unsoundbuildings had been set.Second, the quality of the constructiondid not correspond tothe already low norm. There wasno free market selling constructionmaterials to the private sector, andso they obtained [stole] materialsfrom state projects. The quality ofthe buildings <strong>we</strong> constructed didnot meet the seismic standards ofArmenia. We <strong>we</strong>re unprep<strong>are</strong>d <strong>for</strong>the earthquake both from the organizationaland operative pointsof view. We did not have a strongseismology agency with complexstructures <strong>for</strong> rescue and first aid.This was also a reason <strong>for</strong> that numberof deaths.AR: Mr. Movsisian, what lessonsshould <strong>we</strong> learn from the 1988 devastatingearthquake?VM: From the point of view oflearning lessons, <strong>we</strong>, the <strong>Armenian</strong>s,<strong>are</strong> lazy and <strong>for</strong>get everythingvery early.First, the entire norms and demands<strong>for</strong> construction shouldbe revie<strong>we</strong>d and they must correspondto Armenia’s level of seismicactivity. Nothing should beconstructed unless it is seismicallysound <strong>for</strong> up to 9 points on theRichter scale. Even a fence shouldnot be constructed, as it is costlyand when it is ruined you have toconstruct it again.Second, the construction qualityshould be monitored by the state,as the state is responsible <strong>for</strong> itscitizens. If the quality does notcomply, the building should not beput into use.Third, people should be removedfrom today’s damaged buildingsand schools, as no one can be surehow strong tomorrow’s earthquakemay be.One of the reasons many peopledied during the earthquake wasthe lack of rescue services. TheMinistry of State of Emergencyshould solve some issues: <strong>for</strong>ecasting,disseminating in<strong>for</strong>mation,and it should be on the alert. TheRussians have a good saying, “Theyfeed the dogs only when they wantto go hunting.” We shouldn’t be inthat position.AR: Thank you.fReach over 100,000 <strong>Armenian</strong>swith your messageAdvertise in the <strong>Armenian</strong> <strong>Reporter</strong>, on the newUSArmenia Television, and on Armenia TV onthe Dish Network. For more in<strong>for</strong>mation, from theWestern U.S. call 818.800.3311 or from the EasternU.S. call 201.226.1995.

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