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Current Trends in Debt and Specialty Choice - AAMC

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<strong>Current</strong> <strong>Trends</strong> <strong>in</strong> <strong>Debt</strong> <strong>and</strong><strong>Specialty</strong> <strong>Choice</strong>GEA Small Group DiscussionMoscone 20221:30 – 3:00pmJulie Fresne, <strong>AAMC</strong>John Wiecha, MD, MPH, BU SOMJay Youngclaus, <strong>AAMC</strong>Nov. 6, 2012


How we will pass your time~15m<strong>in</strong>.• Quick overview of current debt & cost trends• 2012 data on debt <strong>and</strong> specialty choice• Brief summary of forthcom<strong>in</strong>g research paper• A few <strong>in</strong>sights from counsel<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong>debtedmedical students60+m<strong>in</strong>.• Discussion, Discussion, DiscussionThis will be most of our time ….2012 <strong>AAMC</strong> Annual Meet<strong>in</strong>g


Class of 2012 IndebtednessAll SchoolsPublic PrivateSchools SchoolsMean $166,738 $156,018 $183,002Median $170,000 $160,000 $190,00086% of graduates report hav<strong>in</strong>g educational debt36% of graduates report debt $200,000 or higherData <strong>in</strong>cludes medical <strong>and</strong> premedical/undergraduate debt2012 <strong>AAMC</strong> Annual Meet<strong>in</strong>g


Median Education <strong>Debt</strong> of IndebtedMedical School Graduates, 1992-2012$175,000$170,000<strong>in</strong> 2012$150,000$125,000Constant2012$$100,000Actual $$75,000$50,000$25,0001992-2012:<strong>Debt</strong> CAGR = 6.3%CPI CAGR = 2.5%$01992 1994 1996 1998 2000 2002 2004 2006 2008 2010 20122012 <strong>AAMC</strong> Annual Meet<strong>in</strong>g


Cost of Medical School, 2012-2013Median M1Tuition/FeesMedian M1 Cost ofAttendance (COA)Median 4-Yr. COAfor class of 2013Public(In-State)Private(In-State)$32,414 $50,309$53,685 $72,344$207,868 $278,4552012 <strong>AAMC</strong> Annual Meet<strong>in</strong>g


Median 4-Year Cost of Attendance (COA) <strong>and</strong>Education <strong>Debt</strong> of Indebted Medical School Graduates,2000-2012 (<strong>in</strong> Constant 2012$)$300,000$250,000$275,300$200,000$150,000$196,700$190,000$160,000$100,000Private 4Yr COA <strong>in</strong> 2012$Private Median Ed <strong>Debt</strong> <strong>in</strong> 2012$$50,000$-Public 4Yr COA <strong>in</strong> 2012$Public Median Ed <strong>Debt</strong> <strong>in</strong> 2012$2000 2002 2004 2006 2008 2010 20122012 <strong>AAMC</strong> Annual Meet<strong>in</strong>g


Influence of Various Factors on the <strong>Specialty</strong> <strong>Choice</strong> of2012 Graduat<strong>in</strong>g Medical Students (GQ)0 Percent 20 <strong>in</strong>dicat<strong>in</strong>g “strong” 40 or “moderate” 60 <strong>in</strong>fluence80 100273341.140.447.562.66078.077.398.398.12012 <strong>AAMC</strong> Annual Meet<strong>in</strong>g


Influence of Various Factors on the <strong>Specialty</strong> <strong>Choice</strong> of2012 Graduat<strong>in</strong>g Medical Students (GQ)0 Percent 20 <strong>in</strong>dicat<strong>in</strong>g “strong” 40 or “moderate” 60 <strong>in</strong>fluence80 100273341.140.447.562.66078.077.398.398.12012 <strong>AAMC</strong> Annual Meet<strong>in</strong>g


Median Salary First Year Post-Residency 2011Dermatology $312K$K $50K $100K $150K $200K $250K $300K $350KSurgery: GeneralAnesthesiologyEmergency Medic<strong>in</strong>eOB/GYNPsychiatryInternal Medic<strong>in</strong>eHospitalist: IMFamily Practice (w/ OB)Pediatrics$260K$250K$245K$222.5K$197.5K$180K$180K$160K$145KSource: Selected Specialties, MGMA 2011 Data2012 <strong>AAMC</strong> Annual Meet<strong>in</strong>g


2012 GQ Data on <strong>Debt</strong> <strong>and</strong> <strong>Specialty</strong> <strong>Choice</strong>Interest <strong>in</strong> <strong>Specialty</strong> with ….Start<strong>in</strong>g Salary of $300K+Start<strong>in</strong>g Salarybetween $220K <strong>and</strong> $260KStart<strong>in</strong>g Salary around $200KFamily Medic<strong>in</strong>eStart<strong>in</strong>g Salary=$160KPeds. Start<strong>in</strong>g Salary=$145KEd <strong>Debt</strong>=$220K24% 22% 22%40% 44% 46%12% 11% 11%8% 10% 9%16% 13% 11%Graduates plann<strong>in</strong>g to become certified <strong>in</strong> specific specialties <strong>and</strong>“moderately” or “very” confident <strong>in</strong> their choice. Excludes Internal Med.2012 <strong>AAMC</strong> Annual Meet<strong>in</strong>g


2012 GQ Data on <strong>Debt</strong> <strong>and</strong> <strong>Specialty</strong> <strong>Choice</strong>Interest <strong>in</strong> <strong>Specialty</strong> with ….Start<strong>in</strong>g Salary of $300K+Start<strong>in</strong>g Salarybetween $220K <strong>and</strong> $260KStart<strong>in</strong>g Salary around $200KFamily Medic<strong>in</strong>eStart<strong>in</strong>g Salary=$160KPeds. Start<strong>in</strong>g Salary=$145KEd <strong>Debt</strong>=$220K22%$260K46%$260K11%$257K9%$256K11%$255KGraduates plann<strong>in</strong>g to become certified <strong>in</strong> specific specialties <strong>and</strong>“moderately” or “very” confident <strong>in</strong> their choice. Excludes Internal Med.2012 <strong>AAMC</strong> Annual Meet<strong>in</strong>g


Rate of USMDs likely to becomePCPs may be stabiliz<strong>in</strong>g37%33%Percent USMD PGY-1 ResidentsLikely to Become PCPs30%28%26% 25% 26% 25% 24% 24%25%2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010Source: GME Track analysis by Paul Jolly (<strong>AAMC</strong>)Notes: Percent equals 1) number USMDs enter<strong>in</strong>g IM, FM, or Peds m<strong>in</strong>us number enter<strong>in</strong>g IMSubspecialties or Ped Subspecs. that same year 2) divided by number of PGY1 entrants2012 <strong>AAMC</strong> Annual Meet<strong>in</strong>g


Jan. 2013 <strong>in</strong> Academic Medic<strong>in</strong>eYoungclaus, Wiecha et al.available onl<strong>in</strong>e next week“Can Medical Students Afford to Choose Primary Care?An Economic Analysis of Physician Education<strong>Debt</strong> Repayment”Analyzed whether a physician earn<strong>in</strong>g a typical primary caresalary can repay current levels of education debt <strong>and</strong> meetst<strong>and</strong>ard household expenses without <strong>in</strong>curr<strong>in</strong>g additional debtUsed data <strong>and</strong> f<strong>in</strong>ancial-plann<strong>in</strong>g software to model the annualf<strong>in</strong>ances for a fictional physician’s household (Dr. Median)2012 <strong>AAMC</strong> Annual Meet<strong>in</strong>g


Jan. 2013 <strong>in</strong> Academic Medic<strong>in</strong>eYoungclaus, Wiecha et al.available onl<strong>in</strong>e next weekConclusionsA primary care career rema<strong>in</strong>s f<strong>in</strong>ancially viable formedical school graduates with median levels ofeducation debt. Graduates pursu<strong>in</strong>g primary care withhigher debt levels would need to consider additionalstrategies to support repayment such as extendedrepayment terms, use of a federal loanforgiveness/repayment program, or not liv<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong> thehighest cost areas.2012 <strong>AAMC</strong> Annual Meet<strong>in</strong>g


One on One Student Counsel<strong>in</strong>gWhat happens when you share thesef<strong>in</strong>d<strong>in</strong>gs with <strong>in</strong>dividual medicalstudents who have debt <strong>and</strong> areundecided about their career choice?Perspectives from BU SOM2012 <strong>AAMC</strong> Annual Meet<strong>in</strong>g


Discussion Questions•Do national debt trends mirrorwhat audience members aresee<strong>in</strong>g at their schools?2012 <strong>AAMC</strong> Annual Meet<strong>in</strong>g


Discussion Questions•<strong>Current</strong> research suggests thatdebt <strong>and</strong> potential <strong>in</strong>come haveless of an impact on specialtychoice compared to other factors.Does this r<strong>in</strong>g true with theexperiences, anecdotes, <strong>and</strong>observations of audiencemembers?2012 <strong>AAMC</strong> Annual Meet<strong>in</strong>g


Discussion Questions•Is there a po<strong>in</strong>t at which debtlevels will make a primary carecareer seem untenable?If yes, are we close to thatpo<strong>in</strong>t?2012 <strong>AAMC</strong> Annual Meet<strong>in</strong>g


Discussion Questions•Will current cost of attendance <strong>and</strong>debt trends impact the futurephysician supply <strong>and</strong> specialtydistribution?What do audience membersth<strong>in</strong>k?2012 <strong>AAMC</strong> Annual Meet<strong>in</strong>g


Further QuestionsFor more resources see aamc.org/firstjy@aamc.orgjohn383@bu.edujfresne@aamc.org2012 <strong>AAMC</strong> Annual Meet<strong>in</strong>g


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Set Parameters2012 <strong>AAMC</strong> Annual Meet<strong>in</strong>g


Calculate Repayment Scenarios2012 <strong>AAMC</strong> Annual Meet<strong>in</strong>g

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