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“There was a secret” - T. recalls - “because we could not cross that grassrolled up [hay, Ed.], because we were on ice. They made us dismount and walktowards the ice (...) they made us all mount on the horses, there was a mafiaperson in front and one behind; I was behind with him in front and we walked andhe said «you must not all go together, one at a time because you must arrive at theend». The walk was half an hour, the horses were made to walk slowly, slowly …we did not know anything…it was ice. Then (…) we had just arrived, we were 5, 10who were finishing crossing this place in the open and we heard a crack…Westarted to fall, and then the man got down and pulled me out. And they all entered,he had said to them, go one behind the other and they had gone all together…andboom, they went and started to fall, fall, fall [into the water, Ed.]. Then I don’tremember anything more. When I awoke I was inside a house, there was no oneelse. All those people...and one of the mafia. There was only the man that hadaccompanied me, the other was no more. There was no one else. There was myselfand another 30 persons. We were all Africans, we were alright, and we remainedin 15 and 15 Bangladeshis. Of the Philippinos there was not one ”.The survivors started a long trip on foot until Hungary: “every day we shouldwalk a bit and arrive where we could hide ”.They arrive in Hungary in April where they had to stop in a house hidden in awood. After three days D. returned and announced a new departure. The 31survivors started off again accompanied by new traffickers, around 7, 8 persons.They had to repeat the same route and climb the first mountain that they hadencountered. They arrive after many hours walking in an inhabited place wherethey are once again abandoned by their escorts. The entire group was inside avillage and after a short while were discovered by the police who took them to arefugee centre in Ljubljana.According to T., it was D. who advised the Slovenian police that he had leftpeople in the wood: this could have been a considered strategy by D., to rejoin,with the collusion of the Slovenian police, the objective to allow the entire group tocross the border.They stay in the refugee centre for three days, and then they are transferred to aprison far from Ljubljana where they remain one month. In the prison chicken poxbroke out and T. obtained permission to speak to the head of the police to ask if shecould be released. That same day all the Nigerian girls are released and transferredagain to Ljubljana near the refugee camp.“When we were leaving M. [a policeman, Ed.] arrived and told us «You knownow we will take you into an open camp? From this camp you can telephone, dowhat you want, and can even escape into Italy, if you take the bus», he told us all,he made a drawing, but we had to all walk again. Otherwise we are to call ourfamilies to take us away from the camp. He had said that from there you escape.This was an informer of D. They worked together, but they pretended not to ”.Arriving in the centre of Ljubljana they remain for two, three weeks, and thenslowly the exodus towards the border with Italy starts. They go in cars, or by footpaying 1,000 Euros to the locals who offer to accompany them to the border.