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They start the climb, proceeding in Indian file, with one of the escorts at thebeginning to open the way, two are charged with picking up those who fell, andone as they proceed cancels the tracks left and closes the line. All had gym shoesprovided before departure.At seven in the morning finally they reach a house which from the outsideappeared to be a small refuge, but had inside an enormous underground room.There were other 60 people, Philippinos, Chinese, Indians, Bengalis and Pakistanis.They were given bread, tea and apples and left to sleep until the afternoon.At three in the afternoon D. arrived who, from the account of T., appeared to besomeone of importance in the organisation of human trafficking. D. is halfYugoslav and half Italian and is married to an Italian woman. He announces that itis again time to make the journey and tells them he will accompany them up to acertain point, adding “You must pray that if they do not stop us in Slovenia,tomorrow you will be in Italy, if they stop us, it will take six months to arrive inItaly”. They all get into two lorries, under the tarpaulins, except T. who travels infront with the driver.At the border between Hungary and Slovenia one of the lorries was stopped bythe Customs suspicious because of the noise coming from the back of the lorry. T.travelled on the other vehicle which had already crossed the border and which wasfollowed and stopped. D. and the other members of the organisation were allowedto go.The entire group was made to get into the lorries and taken by the HungarianPolice to Kiev in the Ukraine 27 , where, after three days journey, they were placed ina reception/detention camp.T. says: “It was a camp. They treated us badly these soldiers, early in themorning they tell us to go outside, we go outside, the snow falls, you stand still,you don’t do anything, they do not give you anything to eat, the snow falls, thesnow falls, then it arrives at your knees, then at two they tell you to enter inside, wego inside and they give us dry bread, really hard…they give you this bread with teaand then at night they give you soup with beans, carrots, like that, horrible…butbecause of hunger one eats”.After one week T. manages to obtain permission to telephone, first she callsItaly, but they tell her to telephone a woman in Nigeria: that she will give theinstructions necessary to get out of the camp.The day of the flight, T. receives a telephone call 28 in which they say “It istoday, you must try to play slowly”.At night T. is approached inside the camp by two men dressed as soldiers thatmake her understand that she should go near the exit gate. While all the other27The explanation for such a transfer lies, according to the interviewee, in the fact that following a searchof the two lorries and their occupants, the Hungarian police found testimony of a stay in Ukraine of thePhilippine group, concluding that the entire group had left there and that it was not therefore theresponsibility of the Hungarians to deal with this, but of the Ukrainians.28To receive telephone calls inside the camp was an exception that T. managed to obtain thanks to goodrelations with a policeman.