Gotovina et al Judgement Volume I - ICTY

39008recognized the SVK weapons carried by Hill and Tremblay, shouted and forced togetherwith other “war lord” type soldiers everyone out of the car at gunpoint, but an EnglishspeakingHV Liaison Officer arrived, entered into a heated conversation with the drunksoldier, eventually defused the situation and let them leave. 2310 On the road to Knin,they went through a number of villages, and saw dead animals in various states of decayand that most buildings were damaged or destroyed, and sometimes still burning. 2311 Inthe area of Macure, in Kistanje municipality, they encountered Ivan Jurić, who askedthem what they were doing in a restricted area, gave them food and then told them toreturn to the UN compound. 2312 They answered that they were looking at what washappening in Sector South, and that they had noticed that buildings were burning or hadbeen destroyed after Operation Storm. 2313 Major Jurić replied “that’s war”. 2314 Berikofftestified that Jurić said that the purpose of the operation was to ensure that “Chetniks”,by which Berikoff thought that he meant any Serbs whether civilian or military, wouldnot return and reoccupy areas in the Krajina. 2315 Jurić spoke enough English for them tobe able to converse. 2316 Jurić was wearing a grey cover-all uniform and driving a blackSUV. 2317 Berikoff and his companions saw numerous houses and fields on fire, as wellas dead animals, throughout the valley between Drniš and Knin. 2318 Berikoff stated that80-85 per cent of the houses on the main highway between Drniš and Knin weredamaged or destroyed, while the occasional village remained intact. 2319 Many houseswere also destroyed on the road between Knin and Kistanje. 2320 When they drovethrough the devastated town of Kistanje, they had to close the windows of the car2310 P740 (Philip Berikoff, witness statement, 21 May 1997), para. 2 (p); D284 (Philip Berikoff, witnessstatement, 26-27 May 1997), pp. 22, 26, 29-30; Philip Berikoff, T. 7864-7865, 7867, 7897-7899; P748(Berikoff’s daily journal, 17 July – 6 September 1995), p. 9.2311 P740 (Philip Berikoff, witness statement, 21 May 1997), para. 2 (p); D284 (Philip Berikoff, witnessstatement, 26-27 May 1997), pp. 22, 56, 62; P747 (Report by Berikoff on HV/HVO activities 4-20August 1995), para. 1 (f); P748 (Berikoff’s daily journal, 17 July – 6 September 1995), p. 9; P752 (Photosof Destruction outside Knin), p. 6.2312 P740 (Philip Berikoff, witness statement, 21 May 1997), para. 2 (p); D284 (Philip Berikoff, witnessstatement, 26-27 May 1997), pp. 22-23; Philip Berikoff, T. 7603, 7653, 7866-7867; P748 (Berikoff’sdaily journal, 17 July – 6 September 1995), p. 9.2313 Philip Berikoff, T. 7653-7654.2314 D284 (Philip Berikoff, witness statement, 26-27 May 1997), p. 28, 60.2315 P739 (Philip Berikoff, witness statement, 24 August 1996), p. 4; Philip Berikoff, T. 7653-7654, 7757,7907-7908.2316 Philip Berikoff, T. 7758.2317 D284 (Philip Berikoff, witness statement, 26-27 May 1997), p. 29; D735 (Philip Berikoff, witnessstatement, 30 August 2008), p. 2; Philip Berikoff, T. 7590, 7603, 7835, 7838.2318 P740 (Philip Berikoff, witness statement, 21 May 1997), para. 2 (p); D284 (Philip Berikoff, witnessstatement, 26-27 May 1997), p. 23; P748 (Berikoff’s daily journal, 17 July – 6 September 1995), p. 9.2319 D284 (Philip Berikoff, witness statement, 26-27 May 1997), p. 23.307Case No.: IT-06-90-T 15 April 2011 `