Narcotics research, rehabilitation, and treatment. Hearings, Ninety ...

624programs that are now available, and I think if the input, if theseGovernors and their staffs and their experts could talk to some of theexperts from the Federal level, we would have a change of direction inthe future that we so badly need. I, for one, would urge this committeeto set up a conference where we would have these gentlemen and theirexperts come in, not only from the medical field but even from thelegal field.Thank you.Chairman Pepper. Thank you very much.Mr. Murphy?Mr. MuRpriY. Mr. Chairman, I have just come in.I do not laiowwhat ground has been covered. But there was one point the Governorof Georgia made in his presentation. I would like to address my questionto the Governor from Georgia.That was, sir, with regard to the Army commanders at these variousposts within your State. Did they ascribe any reasons to this refusalof identification of addicts ?Governor Carter. That was covered earlier, and they did not. Theytold me that they personally would like to see this done—GeneralTabor was speaking and Mr. Hobson, and I think Kelly, were presentat the time. They were high officials in the Department of Defense. Butthey said they would probably be prevented from it because of the reluctanceto divulge this type of information, which was considered tobe confidential or secret. I did not pursue the question, mifortuntitely,to determine whether that prohibition came from a law or from theattitude of Congress or from the attitude or directives from the Secretaryof Defense.Mr. Murphy. Well, Governor, you might be interested in knowingthat Representative Steele and myself, along with over a hundred cos])onsors,have introduced legislation here in the Congress which willmake it mandatory upon the Army, the Secretary of Defense and theA'arious Secretaries of l^ranches of the service, to identify these addictsupon their return to the United States and also while they are servingin the United States, and turn this information over to the WhiteHouse on this new taslc force ]:)rogram.Governor Carter. Would this include information about this addictwhen he is discharged ?Mr. Murphy. That is correct. In other words, presently, the ArmedServices have no test, simpl}' a urinalysis test. They have no requirementthat the GI leaving the service has to take this. It is one of thesimplest ways of identifying an addict. I think tlie cost ascribed to theservices was $1.80 a test. I think the President has implemented thisnow and he is making the test mandatory, and I applaud him for thoseefforts.Chairman Pepper. I know you have to leave. Just two or three thingsquickly.Let me ask each of you gentlemen, if I may, starting with Go^'erno^Carter, does your State have any law that authorizes you to require oneinvoluntarily to take treatment for heroin addiction at any stage,cither after arrest or the like ?Governor Carter. We passed a law this year that permits a judge asa part of a probationary sentence to require treatment for addiction.They have the experience in Georgia, and I think in Washington and