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620((')) Finally, I believe that alterimtive.s witliin the criminal justice systemsfiofiia be provided for narcotic addicts. An addict, like any other individual,should he responsible for his criminal conduct. But our society, through the agenciesof its criminal justice system, must be prepared to provide effective treatmentand rehabilitation opportunities. Such opportunities are rarely availablenow..r appreciate this opportunity to present these views on behalf of Governor 'Mi%lilven an.d myself. As you contimie your deliberations. I would be happy to supplyyou with any additional information on the Michigan program that may he ofassistance to you.Chairman Pepper. Governor Sliapp, do you have anythinof youwould like to add to your statement before I ask the committee ifthey have any questions ?(jrovernor Shapp. I would like to make one additional point that hasnothing to do with Pennsylvania, but it does have something to dowith my u.rgino; the Federal Government to use all of its world powersto stop the international traffic in drugs. Granted, Lieutenant GovernorBrickley just mentioned, by itself, this only solves, one part of the.problem. But for the most part, as I understand it, the nations of theworld that grow the flowers from which the drugs are made are nationsthat are greatly dependent upon the financial aid and the support ofthe T aiited States. It is my understanding that at the present time inTurkey, we are following a program of paying them money not toplant poppies, which is reminiscent of the old days in this country ofpassing out money to keep crops from being planted. It seems to mewe could come up with a more sensible program of simply telling thatnation that if they want to continue with the aid they are ircttinn-.they just have to stop what they are doing and start burning thosefields rather than putting money out to plant new fields. If we aregoing to solve the problem, we have to come up with realistic approachesto eliminating the traffic on an international basis.What can be done? I think the people in power have greater knowledgethan I have, but I do not think that they are using practicalprograms at this moment.Chairman Pepper. Governor Carter, would you like to add anythingto your previous statement?Governor Carter. I would like to back up something that LieutenantGovernor Brickley said. That is, the method of dispensinsf thefujuls that will Ije forthcoming from the Federal Government. I particularlylike the LEAA approach. This has been very effective inGeorgia. It has let our local governments have complete input into it.We have 19 planning commissions in Georgia. We have need for theprograms that the 19 planning commissions are requiring. The localgovernments cooperate with one another, with the State agency awareof all those problems. This could well be a pattern for the drug addictionprogram.I know this committee is primarily interested in seeking information,but it will be very helpful to use as Governors to have somedelineation or listing of Federal agencies which are now equipped financiallyand through authorization to help us finance this program.The Veterans' Administration may have funds available that could bechanneled into this program. The Armed Services, I am sure, do. TheOEO certainly has funds available. Maybe the Public Health Service.
621But we need immediate help or some indication of what immediatelielp can be made available to us so we can accentuate and reemphasizeour own efforts on this problem and make plans in the long run for thefuture after legislation is passed.Chairman Pepper, Thank you very much, Governor.Mr. Mann, do you have any questions ?Mr. 1\Iaxx. Governor Carter. I am very much interested in your militaryexperience to date and today. Did the authorities at the Pentagonindicate that thev felt thev were under anv legal disability from beingable to furnish vou names of heroin addicts being discharged from theservice ?Governor Carter. The response that we received, I think UnderSecretary Kelly was there at the time—he could only stay briefly-—wasthat although they would like to do it, it was their opinion that theywould be prevented from doing it because there was an argument aboutwhether this information ought to be secret or made available. Theydid not say where the restriction came from, either from the Secretaiyof Defense or the Congress ; I do not know. But this is something thatwould he A'ery important to use to alleviate.]Mr. ]Manx. It certainly would. They did not mention medicalpriA' ilege ?Governor Carter. No, because I think they do make available toState agencies contagious disease information when a servicemancomes back to his own commuity.Mr. Mann. I would hate to see us get into a program for the financingof drug programs on the impact aid theory that we do in education.But it would appear to be remotely appropriate.I believe that is all I have, Mr. Chairman.Chairman Pepper. Mr. Winn ?Mr, Winn, Thank you, Mr, Chairman,I want to thank you gentlemen for taking the time from your verybusy schedules to share your view^s with us. I believe it was GovernorCarter who mentioned the problems in the service. I had an interestingconversation with General Davidson yesterday. He has been in Vietnamfor quite some time and is now going to take over the Europeantroops. He is concerned about the problem of drugs in the service, butmade a good point. They are getting their personnel in the UnitedStates, and these are young people who, in most cases, have alreadybeen on drugs. The percentage is high of those who have alreadyat least smoked pot, and many are addicted to pot, some on hard drugs.And then when they go into that area, particularly Vietnam, the availabilityof heroin and the byproducts of heroin add to the problem. It ispartially a military problem of course, but also they are getting theproblem group from the United States, the recruits. So I think maybewe are placing too much blame on the military.But at the same time, they are well aware of the problem, I thinkmaybe your conversation makes all of us aware that we are going tohave to talk to some of the people in the Pentagon and point out to themthat they are going to have to do more in new programs to take careof that.Yes, sir ?60-296—71—pt. 2 19
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620((')) Finally, I believe that alterimtive.s witliin the criminal justice systemsfiofiia be provided for narcotic addicts. An addict, like any other individual,should he responsible for his criminal conduct. But our society, through the agenciesof its criminal justice system, must be prepared to provide effective <strong>treatment</strong><strong>and</strong> <strong>rehabilitation</strong> opportunities. Such opportunities are rarely availablenow..r appreciate this opportunity to present these views on behalf of Governor 'Mi%lilven an.d myself. As you contimie your deliberations. I would be happy to supplyyou with any additional information on the Michigan program that may he ofassistance to you.Chairman Pepper. Governor Sliapp, do you have anythinof youwould like to add to your statement before I ask the committee ifthey have any questions ?(jrovernor Shapp. I would like to make one additional point that hasnothing to do with Pennsylvania, but it does have something to dowith my u.rgino; the Federal Government to use all of its world powersto stop the international traffic in drugs. Granted, Lieutenant GovernorBrickley just mentioned, by itself, this only solves, one part of the.problem. But for the most part, as I underst<strong>and</strong> it, the nations of theworld that grow the flowers from which the drugs are made are nationsthat are greatly dependent upon the financial aid <strong>and</strong> the support ofthe T aiited States. It is my underst<strong>and</strong>ing that at the present time inTurkey, we are following a program of paying them money not toplant poppies, which is reminiscent of the old days in this country ofpassing out money to keep crops from being planted. It seems to mewe could come up with a more sensible program of simply telling thatnation that if they want to continue with the aid they are ircttinn-.they just have to stop what they are doing <strong>and</strong> start burning thosefields rather than putting money out to plant new fields. If we aregoing to solve the problem, we have to come up with realistic approachesto eliminating the traffic on an international basis.What can be done? I think the people in power have greater knowledgethan I have, but I do not think that they are using practicalprograms at this moment.Chairman Pepper. Governor Carter, would you like to add anythingto your previous statement?Governor Carter. I would like to back up something that LieutenantGovernor Brickley said. That is, the method of dispensinsf thefujuls that will Ije forthcoming from the Federal Government. I particularlylike the LEAA approach. This has been very effective inGeorgia. It has let our local governments have complete input into it.We have 19 planning commissions in Georgia. We have need for theprograms that the 19 planning commissions are requiring. The localgovernments cooperate with one another, with the State agency awareof all those problems. This could well be a pattern for the drug addictionprogram.I know this committee is primarily interested in seeking information,but it will be very helpful to use as Governors to have somedelineation or listing of Federal agencies which are now equipped financially<strong>and</strong> through authorization to help us finance this program.The Veterans' Administration may have funds available that could bechanneled into this program. The Armed Services, I am sure, do. TheOEO certainly has funds available. Maybe the Public Health Service.
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