Narcotics research, rehabilitation, and treatment. Hearings, Ninety ...

—569lar project. So if you are going to include all basic research, the biochemical,the pharmocological, where laboratory equipment is veryexpensive and time is of the essenceMr. MuEPiiY. Doctor, do you share the opinion of Dr. Resnick, whotestified before this committee, that a concentrated research effort withenough money to do a good job and a collection of the finest minds wehave in this country devoted to this research would produce in ayear's time some type of prophylactic or immunization program thatwould prevent drug addiction in the future among tlie youngsters?Dr. Chambers. Not with the certainty that he does. I wish I could.Gentlemen, I am sure Dr. Martin from the Addiction lies(nirch (^enterin Lexington must have been before you. I have no idea who the otherclinical pharmacologists or toxicologists are who have been beforeyou. These gentlemen have been doing precisely this kind of work for7, 8, 9 years that I personally know of.Money is not always the only answer. It certainly provides us withthe means for addressing issues and isolating questions, bvit moneywill not guarantee you an answer in (! months. It certainly would allowyou to look at more appropriate questions in a short period of time, butI personally can't guarantee you a pure antagonist that would havethe effect of measles vaccination, mumps vaccination, et cetera. I justdo not share that faith.Mr. MuRPiiY. But if we do not look. Doctor, obviously we will neverknow.Dr. Chambers. You are right. But that was not the question, as Iunderstood it.Mr. Murphy. No; it was not. But it seems to me that where weshould be concentrating our efforts, and I ask you as a medical man, Ithink is in the pure research area, because obviously, all the customsofficials, all the special leverage that the president has with foreigngovernments, have not produced any satisfactory results as of today.The problem becomes worse and worse as the days go by.Dr. Chambers. Point of clarification : I am not a physician, I am abehavioral scientist. That may temper my judgment in some of theareas.Mr. Murphy. Thank you.Chairman Pepper. May I get back, Mr. Jones, to your figures a littlebit ago. I want to get a clear statement as to how much the State ofNew York or the city of New York is spending toward trying to treatand rehabilitate narcotics addicts. You have given us the figure thatthe State of New York has spent about $475 million in the last 4 years.You are spending now at rate of about $91 million a year. Is thatcorrect?Mr. Jones. That is in our operational budget alone.Chairman Pepper. That does not include any money for lawenforcement ?Mr. Jones. No.Chairman Pepper. Now, what else are you spending? I am trying toget some idea of how much the State of New York and the city of NewYork are spending on treatment and rehabilitation of heroin addicts.Mr. Jones. Our operational budget, as I indicatedChairman Pepper. Total expenditures, leaving out law enforcement,related to treatment and rehabilitation ?