Narcotics research, rehabilitation, and treatment. Hearings, Ninety ...

—568Mr. Raxgel. Our distinguished chairman has provided congressionalleadership in assisting Dr. Revici to have a fair review of someof the assumptions he has made to us thixjugh other doctors, so I wouldhope tlie commission might be able to work very closely with thiscommittee to make certain that whatever areas we explore, we can doit witliout duplicating. I am very excited to hear that my State, too, isinvolved.]Mr. Jones. Right.Mr. Br.\sco. Would the gentleman yield for a moment ?Mr. Rangel. Yes.Mr. Brasco. I wanted to echo the words of Mr. Rangel. Certainly,I, too, am very happy that the commission ha,s decided to take a lookat this drug. Not being a medical expert and lisfening to all of tlie expertsAvho come before us and tell us, as we already know, how complexthe ])rob]em is, I find it often very distressing that Avlien we have anykind of a lead in terms of some drug that might ])rovide a medicalanswer, such as Pei-se—and from what I understand, in New Yorkalone, there are some 1,200 people—is that correct, Charley—in theprogram ? Some ]>eople are being treated.Mr. Rangel. Some 2,000 liave gone tlirongh his program. But thequestion of folloAvup woidd be for agencies such as j-ours to substantiate.Mr. Bkasco. The point I make is I find it very distressing that we arejust getting around now to take a look at it. We had people from theFDA who indicated that we had to go through some tests on monkeysand other animals, I just find it absolutely no answer to say that wecannot provide Dr. Revici or any one else with the monkeys and theother animals to be tested in a hurry when we are all in agreement thatwe are groping up some kind of a lilind alley in finding a solution tothis problem. I am happy that we in New York State are finally gettingaround to ap])ointing a committer, or a subcommission under yourleadership to take a \ery good look at tliis. I think we should take a lookat every lead that comes along today.Thank you.]Mr. jNIurphy. Would the gentleman yield ?]Mr. Brasco. Yes.Mr. Murphy. What Mv. Rangel and Mr. Brasco are talking abouthere is pure research. I am wondering about the President's programand I do not mean to be unnecessarily critical—but $11 million for research])urposes to me is a drop in the bucket when we can spend $400and $500 million in missiles and I do not know how many billionsin the Defense Department. With the type of statistics that you havequoted here today. Commissioner, about crime and you. Doctor, aboutthe ramifications of crime in New York, I am wondering if we are appropriatingenough money for pure research with $1 1 million ?Dr. Chamrers.As a researcher, you have asked the wrong individual.You will have to ask the commissioner. Of course, it is an inappi-o]iri:iteamount of money. The State of New York, for example, recently spentin excess of a quarter of a million dollars to do a survey of the incidenceof drug ufe in the general population, the results of which are beingshared with the Nation today. We are tnlkincr about, simply tp go tothe streets and look at a relationship, a behavioi-al science relationshipbetween crime, the addict, and its victim as a quarter-of-a-million-dol-