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Narcotics research, rehabilitation, and treatment. Hearings, Ninety ...

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373Mr. Murphy. John, one problem you <strong>and</strong> I discussed before yourtrip was the fact that ex-GI's return to Bangkok <strong>and</strong> set themselvesup in this opium <strong>and</strong> heroin trade. One fellow in particular owns theFive Star Bar <strong>and</strong> Louufre. I was wondering, do you have anj^ suggestionsas to how we would eradicate that problem ? Have you madeany to the President, or are any under consideration ?Mr. Ingersoll. We had that man in custody in the United Statesabout a year ago but our agents made a fatal legal error <strong>and</strong> his casewas dismissed. The problem of ex-servicemen is not only in Bangkokbut also in Okinawa, <strong>and</strong> we are increasing our investigations there<strong>and</strong> intensifying our activities there, too.Under the new Controlled Substances Act we have a new deviceavailable to us which will permit us to prosecute any person whomanufactures for or causes distribution to the United States while ina foreign area when he appears in the United States.We intend to make use of that device for these people when theycome back into the United States or when they are subject to extradition.In the meantime, hopefull3/ we can get the Thai police to prosecutefor violations that are occurring in Thail<strong>and</strong>.Mr. Murphy. In my trip, Mr. Ingersoll, I talked to a lot of yourmen, <strong>and</strong> by the way, before the committee, I would like to complimentMr. Ingersoll <strong>and</strong> his men that he has stationed around the world.They, in my opinion, do a magnificent job.One of the problems that I discussed with some of your men, Mr.Ingersoll, was this problem of the availability of funds to make purchaseson the market, <strong>and</strong> the use of these funds to buy witnesses <strong>and</strong>information.One particular problem was that you had to go to the embassies withthe general consuls around, <strong>and</strong> if you needed a large amount ofmoney, this need created a lot of redtape. There was also the fact thatit exposed the particular arrest or buy that they were going to beinvolved in <strong>and</strong> chances of leakage were very great.Do you have any recommendations you would like to have Congressconsider in the form of a special fund, covert fund, that youcould use ?Mr. IxGERsoLL. I prefer not to discuss that in an open session, if youdon't mind, Mr. Murph3^Mr. Murphy. I mean just in general terms. I don't mean in specificterms.Mr. Ingersoll. We have investigative funds. Congress has consistently,over the past 2 years, increased these funds significantly. Ithink we can use more. I am at a point now where I can determine howto use these funds intelligently. I have to admit that 2 years ago, oreven a year ago, I wasn't as certain about how to use a large amountof funds intelligently, <strong>and</strong> I saw no justification to ask the Congressfor vast amounts of money when I didn't know how I was going tospend it.Now I think I am at the point where I can use more money <strong>and</strong> useit effectively.Mr. Murphy. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you.Mr. Steiger. Mr. Chairman, excuse me, if the gentleman will yield.I think the record ought to reflect that the gentleman's comment as to

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