Narcotics research, rehabilitation, and treatment. Hearings, Ninety ...

Narcotics research, rehabilitation, and treatment. Hearings, Ninety ... Narcotics research, rehabilitation, and treatment. Hearings, Ninety ...

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156There are several reasons a person might continue occasional use ofheroin. Many persons are fearful about withdrawal symptoms andfeel they must take increasing doses to prevent withdrawal symptoms,even though they can't feel the drug effects. But they feel very anxious.We had one patient who, when a private doctor recently stopped hispractice of giving methadone, said, "Oh, I didn't want to tell you this,but I was getting a second dose of methadone by going to a privatedoctor." Since there is no central registry now we didn't know that.He was taking two doses of methadone each day. "V^Tiat he was doing,as far as we can understand, was treating his anxiety about not gettingenough.The treatment was to counsel the patient, to help him see that hewas getting enough methadone, and he stopped taking two doses.Mr. Wiggins. Dr. DuPont, we are running out of time, and I wouldlike to get into the record the technique you employed to prevent peoplefrom abusing your program by obtaining methadone from a secondsource, and the way that you insure that those who take it homedo not misuse it. Would you describe your security procedure?Dr. DuPoNT. The NTA patient takes his methadone on the premisesfor the first 3 months of the program, and then he gets take-homeprivileges of gradually increasing duration until the minimum frequencyallowed, which is two clinic visits per week. The patient mustbe on the program at least 6 months to a year for that to happen.The patient's urine is tested twice weekly. Urine tests identify allhard drug use, but, of course, we can't separate a second dose methadone.But we know that a person is not going to more than one of ourcenters, because all patients come in and have their pictures taken andget an I.D. card. It is, however, possible to take methadone from anothersource, either inside the city or out, which is a serious problem.Mr. WiGGixs. What w^ould be an in-city source ?Dr. DuPoNT. A private physician. A person could also go to ColonelHassan's program and register for that program and receive methadoneand not be in our central register.Mr. Steiger. Is he still conducting his program ?Dr. DuPoxT. Yes ; and only those patients for whom we pay him inour central registry.Mr. WiGGixs. What is the solution to that problem ?Dr. DuPoxT. The solution is a regional registry for everybody whogets methadone. Everybody who takes a dose of methadone anywherein this area ought to be required to be in a central register.Mr. WiGGGixs. How central ? IMultistate ?Dr. DuPoxT. We should ultimately involve Baltimore as well asthe suburban counties in Maryland and Virginia.Mr. Steiger. I wonder if we could have the witness, if he could remain?I hate to impose on him, but I think all of us would like to explorethis.Chairman Pepper. Doctor, could you wait a few minutes more?Dr. DuPoxT. Sure.Chairman Pepper. Doctor, let me make this announcement beforewe recess. We will come back.Dr. Jaffe is here, another distinguished witness, and he has kindlyconsented to stay over until tomorrow morning. Without objection on

157the part of the committee, when we do recess today we will recess until9 :45 tomorrow morning.AVe will take a temporary recess so we can go over and vote again,Doctoi'. We are sorry to put you to so much trouble today.(A brief recess Avas taken.)Chairman Pepper. The committee will come to order, please.Dr. DuPont, I understand you have some problems with time today,also.Dr. DuPoNT. Yes ; I do.Chairman Pepper. We will try to expedite our examination of you.Mr. Steiger.Mr. Stei«er. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.Doctor, I wanted to get into one thing about half opened up byyour testimony and others, that physicians are a source of the illegalmethadone. I notice that in almost all the drug hearings we have had,and the committee has held before, even in other areas, there is a greatreluctance to admit the complacency of the medical profession. I say"complacent" advisedly. I don't mean there is any kind of conspiracyby the medical profession itself, as a major source of opiates.I wonder if in your experience, Xo. 1, if you agree that it couldbe a problem not only in methadone, but in the dispensing of otheropiates, and if the equation that the reason for many of the peopleinvolved in your program and the New York City program are theunderprivileged as an economic matter that the privileged are ableto buy through pseudolegitimate source the wherewithal to feed theirhabits : is this a valid position ?Dr. DtPoxT. There are so-called medical addicts or people whohave become addicted through medical treatment. This does not necessarilyinvolve any dereliction on the part of the physician, althoughoftentimes there is less vigilance than probably was appropriate.On the other hand, I don't think it Avould be fair to say that opiateaddiction is uniformly distributed throughout the population by socialclass and that the lower classes don't have the wherewithal to getit and the upper classes do. Opiate addiction is concentrated in theloAver social classes, even adding in people going to private physicians.On the other hand, those who do go to private physicians are obviouslyfrom the upper classes. One thing we have noticed in the Districtis that whereas about 8 peicent of the overdose deaths in the cityare white, only about 4 percent of our patients are white, which meansthat there is an underrepresentation of whites in our patient group.I am sure that this is accounted for by more white addicts going toprivate physicians.Mr. Steiger. That is a very interesting statistic and I can draw alot of conclusions from it, which I don't want to do superficially, butI am glad to have these statistics.Now, we have had some specific instances in the Phoenix, Ariz., areain which physicians were actually dispensing narcotics in a mannerthat could hardly be determined medically responsible. I don't thinkit serves any purpose to identify it as a racket, but just as irresponsibility.My question is : In your experience, how widespread—I will phraseit a different way.

156There are several reasons a person might continue occasional use ofheroin. Many persons are fearful about withdrawal symptoms <strong>and</strong>feel they must take increasing doses to prevent withdrawal symptoms,even though they can't feel the drug effects. But they feel very anxious.We had one patient who, when a private doctor recently stopped hispractice of giving methadone, said, "Oh, I didn't want to tell you this,but I was getting a second dose of methadone by going to a privatedoctor." Since there is no central registry now we didn't know that.He was taking two doses of methadone each day. "V^Tiat he was doing,as far as we can underst<strong>and</strong>, was treating his anxiety about not gettingenough.The <strong>treatment</strong> was to counsel the patient, to help him see that hewas getting enough methadone, <strong>and</strong> he stopped taking two doses.Mr. Wiggins. Dr. DuPont, we are running out of time, <strong>and</strong> I wouldlike to get into the record the technique you employed to prevent peoplefrom abusing your program by obtaining methadone from a secondsource, <strong>and</strong> the way that you insure that those who take it homedo not misuse it. Would you describe your security procedure?Dr. DuPoNT. The NTA patient takes his methadone on the premisesfor the first 3 months of the program, <strong>and</strong> then he gets take-homeprivileges of gradually increasing duration until the minimum frequencyallowed, which is two clinic visits per week. The patient mustbe on the program at least 6 months to a year for that to happen.The patient's urine is tested twice weekly. Urine tests identify allhard drug use, but, of course, we can't separate a second dose methadone.But we know that a person is not going to more than one of ourcenters, because all patients come in <strong>and</strong> have their pictures taken <strong>and</strong>get an I.D. card. It is, however, possible to take methadone from anothersource, either inside the city or out, which is a serious problem.Mr. WiGGixs. What w^ould be an in-city source ?Dr. DuPoNT. A private physician. A person could also go to ColonelHassan's program <strong>and</strong> register for that program <strong>and</strong> receive methadone<strong>and</strong> not be in our central register.Mr. Steiger. Is he still conducting his program ?Dr. DuPoxT. Yes ; <strong>and</strong> only those patients for whom we pay him inour central registry.Mr. WiGGixs. What is the solution to that problem ?Dr. DuPoxT. The solution is a regional registry for everybody whogets methadone. Everybody who takes a dose of methadone anywherein this area ought to be required to be in a central register.Mr. WiGGGixs. How central ? IMultistate ?Dr. DuPoxT. We should ultimately involve Baltimore as well asthe suburban counties in Maryl<strong>and</strong> <strong>and</strong> Virginia.Mr. Steiger. I wonder if we could have the witness, if he could remain?I hate to impose on him, but I think all of us would like to explorethis.Chairman Pepper. Doctor, could you wait a few minutes more?Dr. DuPoxT. Sure.Chairman Pepper. Doctor, let me make this announcement beforewe recess. We will come back.Dr. Jaffe is here, another distinguished witness, <strong>and</strong> he has kindlyconsented to stay over until tomorrow morning. Without objection on

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