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97of the enforcement agencies. So presumably, the output would be somethingwhich is immediately operationally useful to an enforcementofficer.The next step, then, would be to turn it over to him and lethim use it.Mr. Rangel. Have any of the law enforcement agencies in the UnitedStates ever requested this type of support that you know of ?Mr. Jaffe. Yes. They have ongoing programs, and I have discussedwith them the magnitude of those programs. I think I can say thatthere is a need and they would agree to a need—not everyone, youknow, of course. If you talk to the guy about his little laboratory hesays this is fine, this is my kingdom.Mr. Rangel. Is there any agency that has a mandate to eradicate theinternational trafficking of drugs, that has gone on record in askingfor more Federal assistance in the area you have testified to ?Mr. Jaffe. I don't know. I really don't know.Mr. Rangel. Thank you.Chairman Pepper. Excuse me just 1 minute.Mr. Jaffe, as I understood the import of your testimony, you wereassuming that if we had an international treaty or agreement thatwould ban the growing of the opium poppy then if somebody wereto plant a field of opium poppies it could be detected by surveillancemethods so that the policing could be effective ?Mr. Jaffe. That is exactly right.Chairman Pepper. Is your information the same as mine, that theselaboratories in southern France are moved around from place to place,from time to time, so there is no fixed location?Mr. Jaffe. That is true. They do move quite a bit. Some of them areeasily knocked down and set up again somewhere else.Mr. Mann. To that may I make a statement ?Chairman Pepper. Go right ahead.Mr. Mann. I was in Paris last week where I conferred with thedirector of the National Police Force, a representative of the BXDDin Paris, and I came away persuaded that France is making everyeffort in cooperating with us and the law enforcement arena to uncoverthe laboratories, that there is no reluctance on their part or noeconomic considerations on their part that are interfering with theircooperation in attempting to uncover these laboratories.Chairman Pepper. Mr. Winn.Mr. Winn. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.Mr. Jaffe, your statement intrigues me, partly because I am on theScience and Astronautics Committee and I am aware of the work thathas been done in the satellites and sensors by ERTS. How much workhave you actually done on the feasibility of the total systemsapproach ?In other words, have you taken each of the suggested—like thelaboratory detection tracers, sensors—have you actually tried to coordinateall that and put a package together ?Mr. Jaffe. No ; we haven't really done that in this particular case.Our organization and others like it specialize in doing that sort ofthing, but in this particular application we haven't yet done that.Mr. Winn. Well, I don't mean to be rude about that, but I gatherthat from your guess of $10 million, because I don't think you are