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Narcotics research, rehabilitation, and treatment. Hearings, Ninety ...

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96Mr. Jaffe. Primarily on the fact that there seems to be more thancasual interest among the enforcement agencies in techniques of thissort when we do talk to them about these things. From the fact thatthey have some ongoing programs in these areas, one would assumethat they don't know precisely where the fields are or where the laboratoriesare. And it is just information of which I don't have firsth<strong>and</strong>knowledge, but I think pretty good secondh<strong>and</strong> knowledge.Mr. Rangel. Well, in view of the fact that we have—at least I thinkwe can admit we have—U-2 surveillance aircraft, we have been, ableto detect missiles in Cuba, we have been able to determine areas ofvegetation in Vietnam <strong>and</strong> Korea before this, <strong>and</strong> in view of the factrhat we have a very close economic relationship with the countries thatwe are mentioning that are considered to be friendly to us, <strong>and</strong> sotherefore there is an assumption that Government is cooperating withus, it seems to me that all of the information would lead us to believethat we know exactly where the crops are located <strong>and</strong> where the laboratoriesare.Mr. Jaffe. I think there is a difference between knowing generallywhere they are <strong>and</strong> knowing specifically where they are. It strikesme that that really is the difference that we would be getting at withtechnology.Mr. Rangel. Well, have you studied any of the reports of the sophisticationof our U-2 aircraft ?Mr. Jaffe. Well, I know generally about what they can do, abouttheir operational capabilities.Mr. Rangel. And the information has been rather specific ?Mr. Jaffe. Yes.Mr. Rangel. And if we can send these aircraft over unfriendly nations,I just presume we can send them over friendly nations.Mr. Jaffe. I would agree.Mr. Rangel. And if we can do all of this I presume that we havethe knowledge that we want already.Mr. Jaffe. I can't disagree with your presumption. The informationI have is that the locations are not precisely known over a periodof time. Obviously if they detect one, if they find it, they know wherethat one is, butMr. Rangel. If my presumptions are correct, we don't need any more<strong>research</strong> <strong>and</strong> development?Mr. Jaffe. The location of a laboratory, for example, from the air,does require additional <strong>research</strong> <strong>and</strong> development. There is no suitableway at the moment of overflying or finding a laboratory.Mr. Rangel. We can find missile bases but we can't find laboratories ?Mr. Jaffe. Correct; because the laboratory, from the air, looks likenothing more or less than an ordinary house, somebody's private home.Mr. Rangel. Even with information given to us by so-calledfriendly nations ?Mr. Jaffe. Well, I don't know about that part of it.Mr. Rangel. Well, let me ask you one last question, Mr. Jaffe. Assumingthat we did get the refined sophisticated type of <strong>research</strong> <strong>and</strong>development that you are suggesting; after we got it, what would yousuggest we do with it ?Mr. Jaffe. AVell, all through my remarks I stressed the need to havethe <strong>research</strong> <strong>and</strong> development program aimed at the operational needs

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