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26Uncorrected/ Not for publication- 08.12.2009Q.NO. 268( CONTD.)SHRI PRAFUL PATEL: I said, technically you may be right but it doesnot work like that. After all, there is an interface. It is not as if the CISFwould not listen to the suggestions or any issues which the Civil AviationMinistry or the BCAS may raise. So, there is a dialogue; there is aninterface. Technically speaking, that is true, but overall security of theairport cannot be in isolation. After all, it is part of a city and it is part ofour country. Therefore, the Home Ministry also has to look after theother facets of security. Anything outside the airport precincts falls in thedomain of the local police and, therefore, the Home Ministry and theCivil Aviation Ministry have to work together.SHRI ARUN JAITLEY: Sir, most countries in the world do not have anyexempted categories based on a VIP culture where they are exemptedfrom security frisking. We are one of the few countries in the worldwhich has it. Therefore, the security personnel at the security checks arealways faced with a Hobson's choice as to whom to frisk and whom notto frisk. Is the Minister willing to consider a regime where everybody issubjected to the same security treatment, irrespective of any specialpreferred status of individuals?SHRI PRAFUL PATEL: Well, I think this decision has to be taken byeverybody including the Members of Parliament. I recall, in this veryHouse, there was an incident where the security of a very importantperson became such a big issue that all...(Interruptions)...SHRI S.S. AHLUWALIA: No Member of Parliament can seek thisimmunity.
27Uncorrected/ Not for publication- 08.12.2009Q.NO. 268( CONTD.)SHRI PRAFUL PATEL: Please, I am not trying to defend anybody. I amonly trying to say that these are decisions that all of us, in our collectivewisdom, have to take. I follow a protocol laid down as per the rules ofbusiness, and there are certain categories which are exempt, and I onlyfollow what has been given to me. I do not devise categories. OurMinistry is only following the protocol which has been spelt out. If thereis any change to be made, I think it would involve a larger discussion.SHRI BALBIR PUNJ: Protocol spelt out by whom?SHRI PRAFUL PATEL: As far as I am concerned, I cannot say anythingon this because I am nobody to decide on my own whether the 'x'category or 'y' category of people should be exempted or not.SHRI BALBIR PUNJ: Mr. Chairman Sir, who sets these categories?MR. CHAIRMAN: Please. I think, the procedure is known.SHRI BALBIR PUNJ: No, Sir. It is not known. We would like the hon.Minister to educate us on that.SHRI S.S. AHLUWALIA: The Minister said that he got this exercise inlegacy. (Interruptions)MR. CHAIRMAN: Please.SHRI PRAFUL PATEL: I hope, at least, most of you know that there isan order of precedence which has been set out. It is not decided by theMinistry of Civil Aviation and that is notified...(Interruptions)...SHRI BALBIR PUNJ: You are speaking for the Government of India. It isdecided by the Government and you are speaking on behalf of theGovernment of India.
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