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80itself instead of taking the funds to the central government. I recommend that we have three main opposition parties in thecountry to allow more competition. Lastly MPs who have been elected to Parliament and before the expiry of their five yearterm, I fee that the party which sponsored him or her to Parliament is not efficient, he or she should resign and seek newmandate instead of staying in Parliament while in another party. Thank you very much.Com. Bishop Njoroge: Thank you very much. Joseph K. Tumwa?Joseph Tumwa: My names are Joseph K. Tumwa and my views are as follows: firstly, the current government has forgottenmarginalized groups and minority groups. Whenever they budget they don’t include them. My first point is that, the currentgovernment just because of poor governance, has forgotten marginalized groups and even minority group and forgottenespecially when they budget for the country, they are never included. And that one has created tension especially minorityamong the groups like the people of Mt. Elgon---Interjection. Com. Bishop Njoroge: You are proposing equal distribution of resources.Joseph Tumwa: Yes, that is it.Joseph Tumwa: Second point is about land- we own land, we have been given land by our ancestors or fathers. Forexample, I am a son of my father, my father has given me land and may be I want to use that land as loan security, it will forceme to get the land title deed and may be my father has died. You will find that it will take me a longer time to get the loan. So, Iwould rather request the government or the Constitution to provide that once somebody has got land and it is known that it ishis, please them base on that and give loans other than seeking for that title deed and yet it takes quite a long time. Three, thethree arms of government- they are not independent. They are always interfered with by one arm. Therefore, we feel, thesethree arms should be set independent especially Judiciary. You will find that is being run non- technocrats because, the head ofthe Judiciary is not a lawyer. Therefore we should have a lawyer to be the head of the Judiciary.Com. Bishop Njoroge: Who is that who is not a lawyer?Joseph Tumwa: We are looking at the current President. He chooses—Com. Bishop Njoroge: You have made your point. Can you go to the next point.Joseph Tumwa: I feel if we can have a Constitution that can create a commission to help in checks and balances of whateveris going on in every ministry. That would give us transparency and accountability. National resources are not shared equallyandthat one I will not enter into it because somebody has already talked about it. Now, we don’t have proportional
81leadership. You will find an MP representing 160, 000 members and another one representing five thousand only. He is aminister and somebody representing 160,000- mine, is to have equal representation.Com. Bishop Njoroge: You are saying equal representation. Can you go to the last point.Joseph Tumwa: My last point: I wish the current Constitution we are looking creates a clause by which any member ofParliament- if he goes to Parliament, he has to be ready at any time if he messes or if he does not represent people in a waylikely to bring peace or is unable, is to be called back so that we send somebody else or, wananchi tuwe na mandate yakumrudisha nyumbani na tuchague mtu mwingine.Com. Bishop Njoroge: Asante sana, njoo ujiandikishe. Nani mwingine nilisema? Patrick Wanyonyi.Patrick Wanyonyi: Asanteni sana. Ningependa kuongea juu ya Presidential powers. kwa majina ni Patrick WanjalaWanyonyi. I would like to talk about Presidential powers. ningependa Rais asiwe na uwezo mwingi zaidi wa ku-nominate 12MPs- hiyo itolewe. Halafu he creates so many ministries, anaanza kuchukua Ministers watano, Ministers watatu. There shouldbe not more that 20 ministries. There shoud be a manageable number of ministries so that the economy of the coutry will bewell balanced. The MP who has been nominated, should not be given a top seat. Wale ambao walikuwa na wananchi wakona hawapewi kile kiti kikubwa na wanachukua tu mtu kutoka huko kando wanamuweka. Hiyo ni kama kuaibisha the electedpeople as well as the voters who chose their representative.President asichague watu kama Head of Parastatals, Vice Chancellor, Company Secretaries, hiyo ndio inaleta mambo yaufisadi.Com. Bishop Njoroge: Ungetaka waandikwe na nani?Patrick Wanyonyi: Hawa watu inatakikana kama kwa kampuni kama hii- wanachukua tu mtu yule mwenye ako na uchuzi.Yule mtu, ambaye amesomea hiyo kazi na wanam-promote. Lakini si kuchukua mtu labda alikuwa mwana- jeshi nawanampeleka awe Agriculture Minister mahali.Com. Bishop Njoroge: Next point.Patrick Wanyonyi: Ndio munaona shida inapatika katika nchi yetu hii ya Kenya. Point nyingine ni juu ya mashamba.Unapata mashamba yako hapa ya serikali kama ADC. Badala ya kugawia squatters ambao wako hapo, wanaenda Central,wanaleta watu hapa, wanaenda Nyanza wanaleta watu hapa. Na kumbuka ya kwamba sisi watu ambao hatuna mashambahapa, hakuna mahali watatupeleka huko Central, hawatupeleki.
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80itself instead <strong>of</strong> taking the funds to the central government. I recommend that we have three main opposition parties in thecountry to allow more competition. Lastly MPs who have been elected to Parliament and before the expiry <strong>of</strong> their five yearterm, I fee that the party which sponsored him or her to Parliament is not efficient, he or she should resign and seek newmandate instead <strong>of</strong> staying in Parliament while in another party. Thank you very much.Com. Bishop Njoroge: Thank you very much. Joseph K. Tumwa?Joseph Tumwa: My names are Joseph K. Tumwa and my views are as follows: firstly, the current government has forgottenmarginalized groups and minority groups. Whenever they budget they don’t include them. My first point is that, the currentgovernment just because <strong>of</strong> poor governance, has forgotten marginalized groups and even minority group and forgottenespecially when they budget for the country, they are never included. And that one has created tension especially minorityamong the groups like the people <strong>of</strong> Mt. Elgon---Interjection. Com. Bishop Njoroge: You are proposing equal distribution <strong>of</strong> resources.Joseph Tumwa: Yes, that is it.Joseph Tumwa: Second point is about land- we own land, we have been given land by our ancestors or fathers. Forexample, I am a son <strong>of</strong> my father, my father has given me land and may be I want to use that land as loan security, it will forceme to get the land title deed and may be my father has died. You will find that it will take me a longer time to get the loan. So, Iwould rather request the government or the Constitution to provide that once somebody has got land and it is known that it ishis, please them base on that and give loans other than seeking for that title deed and yet it takes quite a long time. Three, thethree arms <strong>of</strong> government- they are not independent. They are always interfered with by one arm. Therefore, we feel, thesethree arms should be set independent especially Judiciary. You will find that is being run non- technocrats because, the head <strong>of</strong>the Judiciary is not a lawyer. Therefore we should have a lawyer to be the head <strong>of</strong> the Judiciary.Com. Bishop Njoroge: Who is that who is not a lawyer?Joseph Tumwa: We are looking at the current President. He chooses—Com. Bishop Njoroge: You have made your point. Can you go to the next point.Joseph Tumwa: I feel if we can have a Constitution that can create a <strong>commission</strong> to help in checks and balances <strong>of</strong> whateveris going on in every ministry. That would give us transparency and accountability. National resources are not shared equallyandthat one I will not enter into it because somebody has already talked about it. Now, we don’t have proportional
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