verbatim report of constituency public hearings ... - ConstitutionNet
verbatim report of constituency public hearings ... - ConstitutionNet verbatim report of constituency public hearings ... - ConstitutionNet
94Translator: Commissioner arakwira atiriri maciariirwo bururi ini wa Kenya na nimoi mathina ma Kenya mothe. Mathina maciomwina mo. Riu arenda atiriri umwire ni atia kungikwo bururi wagirire. Ungithondekwo atia.Aria uhoro wa guthondeka.Peter Wangondu: Uhoro wa guthondeka ni thirikari iria iguka kana iria iratuma Commissioners moke guku nigetha tuthomithiouria kuagiriire nigetha igie na watho mweru wa gutama o mundu wothe atigirwo ni utonga wa Kenya.Translator: That the Constitution which we are going to make should have a structure which ensures that our farm productsare protected, that our property is protected. That we reap the fruits of our labour.Peter Wangondu: Nguthiaga kuga tuoigaga riria twahunjagia tukoiga wiyathi na githomo, tukoiga wiyathi na githaka, tukoigawiyathi na thibitari na kunina urimu nikio githomo. Riu guku, maundu macio matihingagio ni aria matongoretie maundu. Riu ithuitwahanire ta mburi itari na mutongoria itigitwo rurii.Translator: The government should look at social services, education and health to ensure that we get these services. Becausethis is what we fought for. That is why we fought for independence, those things are not there any more. The government shouldensure we get those services.Peter Wangondu: Amwe marakuira micii matangiona mbecha cia thibitari. Tondu ni athiire kuria thibitari. Nindihirio, wathiethibitari iria ukuuga niyo ya thirikari, ukuheo karatathi nigetha urehe clinic. Clinic iyo ni mbecha nyingi.Translator: Uguo wothe niukumwirite. Woiga thibitari ithondekwo.Peter Wangondu: Nii ndikuga maingi nguga macio. Nanonjugire kuri andu aingi mena kuo no murare guku ni getha andu acionao makamuhe maoni.Translator: That there are many other people here who want to talk to you. So, you should sleep here and come tomorrow.We will still be here tomorrow.Com. Keriako Tobiko: Tomorrow we will be in….. Kiamariga. Tell him we will be in Kiamariga tomorrow. He can try andsee whether he will be able to get a second chance. Waithaka Mwatha. Peter Muriuki. Tafadhali jaribu kuwa brief kabisa.Waithaka Mwatha: Okay, I will be very brief. I would like to propose that the Head of Parastatal, our Universities that is theVice-Chancellor, should not just be appointed by one person. Those posts should be advertised. Qualified people who havetechnical and professional qualifications to apply. A committee of a board of fifty to vet them or about three of them can beproposed to the Parliament so that they can be appointed to occupy these positions. Otherwise others have been mentioned
95and am not going to repeat. Thank you.Com. Keriako Tobiko: Thank you very much. Peter Muriuki.James Kamau.James Kamau: Honorable Commissioners and other distinguished guests I am going to be very brief and my names areJames Kamau from Baraka Praise Church. I am the Chairman of indigenous churches council of Kenya – ICCK, Nyeri district.I am also an aspirant councilor here in Karatina. I do hereby recommend the following in our future Constitution.First: The duties of a Chief to be performed by an elected Councilor and that will minimize the expenditure. I would alsorecommend that the term of a Councilor and an MP to be two terms each comprising of five years - Just as it is the case withour present President. I also recommend that a Mayor should be elected directly by the members of the public and not byCouncilors. I also wish to say that a Councilor should have a minimum of form four or its equivalent. I also say that all politicalparties should be funded by the government according to their strength in Parliament, and the churches also to be funded by thesame government.Judiciary also should be independent from the government. That is Judges should not be government appointees since they willbe loyal to their bosses but not to the law. The President should not be the Chief – in command of the Armed Forces as it is thecase in Kenya since Kenya is not ruled by the military but by democracy.Heads of Parastatal and the other government organizations should be discussed by the Parliament and they should be vetted.The second person during the general elections should be an automatic Vice President. I also wish to say that the governmentshould comprise of all political parties who are in Parliament.Commissioners, I would also come to penal code and say that the death penalty should be abolished from our penal code sinceour Constitution is Biblically based, and the Bible forbids killing. Any registered church…Com. Keriako Tobiko: Wind up please.James Kamau: I am in the last point. Any registered church or Ministry should not give a cover to another church in order tominimize churches in Kenya which are causing divisions. Thank you.Com. Keriako Tobiako: Thank you so much. Esther Mido.Esther Mido: I am not going to repeat what has been said but I will only highlight few things. Education: The form of educationwe have today is very tiring and we should have like what we had before. Those who are of my age you know what we used to
- Page 43 and 44: 43John G. Mwangi: Thank you very mu
- Page 45 and 46: 45Audience: Tunataka.Keriako Tobiko
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- Page 49 and 50: 49Com. Bishop Njoroge: Thank you ve
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- Page 55 and 56: 55Ghalama: Ghalama ya hospitali na
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- Page 59 and 60: 59Gethi Mwai: Yah. I am doing that.
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- Page 69 and 70: 69Com. Keriako Tobiko: Thank you so
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- Page 73 and 74: 73Jomo Kenyatta ikawa kuna watu wan
- Page 75 and 76: 75Com. Bishop Njoroge: Labda, sijui
- Page 77 and 78: 77Com. Lethome: Asante sana Bwana M
- Page 79 and 80: 79Translator: Commissioners, watoto
- Page 81 and 82: 81Geoffrey Gakuo: Thank you. Kwanza
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- Page 87 and 88: 87Samuel Thambo: Mundu aheo wira ku
- Page 89 and 90: 89Esther Mukami Githaiga: Nyimbo ci
- Page 91 and 92: 91Lucy Wanjugu: Uguo thiirikari ige
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- Page 97 and 98: 97Com. Keriako Tobiko: Thank you so
- Page 99 and 100: 99James Mwangi Muthiga: Kenyatta da
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- Page 103 and 104: 103Com. Keriako Tobiko: Sasa la mwi
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- Page 107 and 108: 107Com. Keriako Tobiko: Kama vipi?N
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- Page 119 and 120: 119Com. Keriako Tobiko: Sawa sawa.Z
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94Translator: Commissioner arakwira atiriri maciariirwo bururi ini wa Kenya na nimoi mathina ma Kenya mothe. Mathina maciomwina mo. Riu arenda atiriri umwire ni atia kungikwo bururi wagirire. Ungithondekwo atia.Aria uhoro wa guthondeka.Peter Wangondu: Uhoro wa guthondeka ni thirikari iria iguka kana iria iratuma Commissioners moke guku nigetha tuthomithiouria kuagiriire nigetha igie na watho mweru wa gutama o mundu wothe atigirwo ni utonga wa Kenya.Translator: That the Constitution which we are going to make should have a structure which ensures that our farm productsare protected, that our property is protected. That we reap the fruits <strong>of</strong> our labour.Peter Wangondu: Nguthiaga kuga tuoigaga riria twahunjagia tukoiga wiyathi na githomo, tukoiga wiyathi na githaka, tukoigawiyathi na thibitari na kunina urimu nikio githomo. Riu guku, maundu macio matihingagio ni aria matongoretie maundu. Riu ithuitwahanire ta mburi itari na mutongoria itigitwo rurii.Translator: The government should look at social services, education and health to ensure that we get these services. Becausethis is what we fought for. That is why we fought for independence, those things are not there any more. The government shouldensure we get those services.Peter Wangondu: Amwe marakuira micii matangiona mbecha cia thibitari. Tondu ni athiire kuria thibitari. Nindihirio, wathiethibitari iria ukuuga niyo ya thirikari, ukuheo karatathi nigetha urehe clinic. Clinic iyo ni mbecha nyingi.Translator: Uguo wothe niukumwirite. Woiga thibitari ithondekwo.Peter Wangondu: Nii ndikuga maingi nguga macio. Nanonjugire kuri andu aingi mena kuo no murare guku ni getha andu acionao makamuhe maoni.Translator: That there are many other people here who want to talk to you. So, you should sleep here and come tomorrow.We will still be here tomorrow.Com. Keriako Tobiko: Tomorrow we will be in….. Kiamariga. Tell him we will be in Kiamariga tomorrow. He can try andsee whether he will be able to get a second chance. Waithaka Mwatha. Peter Muriuki. Tafadhali jaribu kuwa brief kabisa.Waithaka Mwatha: Okay, I will be very brief. I would like to propose that the Head <strong>of</strong> Parastatal, our Universities that is theVice-Chancellor, should not just be appointed by one person. Those posts should be advertised. Qualified people who havetechnical and pr<strong>of</strong>essional qualifications to apply. A committee <strong>of</strong> a board <strong>of</strong> fifty to vet them or about three <strong>of</strong> them can beproposed to the Parliament so that they can be appointed to occupy these positions. Otherwise others have been mentioned
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