verbatim report of constituency public hearings ... - ConstitutionNet
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40“people’s initiative”. I would like to bring that attention to the Commissioners the importance of “people’s initiative”. Because,the Constitution that we inherited from the officials Lancaster house, was an American state and it was American based and itwas of the people, by the people, for the people. Unless we have that, we are going to get nowhere. Thank you very much.That is all I had.Com. Bishop Njoroge: Before you sit down. I just want to ask you one thing. What you are saying is,to have disciplined civilservice, we have to scrap out “Ndegwa commission” recommendations?Onesmus Ngare: Completely. It ruined everything.Com. Lethome: Okay then. About the churches, do you want us to limit the registration of churches so that the freedom ofworship is not abused?Onesmus Ngare: Not at all. It is like this, the criteria with the Registrar of Societies’ Act has to be vetted who is who. It has tobe vetted.Com. Bishop Njoroge: Thank you very much.Onesmus Ngare: Not at all.Com. Lethome: How do you reduce these political parties from the forty-six that we have today to the three that you havesuggested? Because you have to look at it in the terms of what we have now and the ideals that you would…Onesmus Ngare: What I suggest. What they did in Nigeria, if I remember well. I mean what it is to be restricted, that apolitical party, when one goes to the Registrar General for a party, he completes the form and what he does is to be given atime normally a year or so, to recruit a number of members from every corner of the country. I think this should be fiftythousand.Com. Lethome: My question is, you have them registered already. Now do we deregister some of them?Onesmus Ngare: Now what is at the moment,…. Yes we should go back and really do something about this. Those with onlyone member and others don’t have any members. I mean they are representing nobody.Com. Bishop Njoroge: Thank you very much.
41Onesmus Ngare: Not at all.Com. Bishop Njoroge: Thank you very much. Those were good suggestions. Are you a teacher or what are you? Are you aretired teacher?Onesmus Ngare: I am a jack-of-all-trades. I cannot tell you exactly what I do.Prolonged laughter from the audience.Com. Bishop Njoroge: Ndegwa Muno. Ndegwa muno. Maina Gicheru.Maina Gicheru: Thank you Mr. Chairman Sir. The Kenya Constitution should be based on eight basic foundation objectives.Namely: Peace, Prosperity, Justice, Liberty, Democracy, Unity, Rule of law and Happiness. The above foundation objectivesshould therefore form the basis of preamble and the Constitution should rest and agree to the above-mentioned eight objectives.The current Constitution does not agree with the eight objectives.To make our Constitution agreeable, I recommend the under mentioned changes. Section 14, sub-section 1 should be changedand the President whether in office or retired should be charged in court of law. If he is found to have acted against the law ofthe land. Another recommendation is that the Constitution should be written in a very simple language the language that allpeople understand. It should be interpreted into all Kenyans indigenous languages.The Administration system that do not serve the citizens should be scrapped. E.g. The Administration and detention withouttrial, laws and rules that are not passed by the Parliament. The Government security forces hence should be agreed upon inParliament, contrary to the present Constitution whereby they are chosen by the Office of the President. Other categories are;the Attorney General, Heads of Parastatals, Ambassadors, Vice-Chancellors, Directors, Auditor General, ElectoralCommission and Enquiry Commissions e.t.c. All the above names must be elected in Parliament with a majority of at least 70%votes. Citizens should be given power to vote out their MP if he does not serve them well-even if the five years term has notexpired. MP’s and Councilors should serve for two terms of five years each.Term of Parliament should be extended only when the country is at war. MP’s salaries and other allowances should berecommended and passed by a certain commission but not by the Parliamentarians themselves, as it is the case today. Allretired officers from Public Services, Security forces and those who have failed other institutions during their ….and that Constituency be represented and elections be called. He should also resign from the Chairmanship Directorship orManagement of any public or private corporation because of the conflict of interests. He should also not be a member of theRegional Assembly. Should quit and if he is also a member of any Civic Authority because as I have said here, the President
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40“people’s initiative”. I would like to bring that attention to the Commissioners the importance <strong>of</strong> “people’s initiative”. Because,the Constitution that we inherited from the <strong>of</strong>ficials Lancaster house, was an American state and it was American based and itwas <strong>of</strong> the people, by the people, for the people. Unless we have that, we are going to get nowhere. Thank you very much.That is all I had.Com. Bishop Njoroge: Before you sit down. I just want to ask you one thing. What you are saying is,to have disciplined civilservice, we have to scrap out “Ndegwa commission” recommendations?Onesmus Ngare: Completely. It ruined everything.Com. Lethome: Okay then. About the churches, do you want us to limit the registration <strong>of</strong> churches so that the freedom <strong>of</strong>worship is not abused?Onesmus Ngare: Not at all. It is like this, the criteria with the Registrar <strong>of</strong> Societies’ Act has to be vetted who is who. It has tobe vetted.Com. Bishop Njoroge: Thank you very much.Onesmus Ngare: Not at all.Com. Lethome: How do you reduce these political parties from the forty-six that we have today to the three that you havesuggested? Because you have to look at it in the terms <strong>of</strong> what we have now and the ideals that you would…Onesmus Ngare: What I suggest. What they did in Nigeria, if I remember well. I mean what it is to be restricted, that apolitical party, when one goes to the Registrar General for a party, he completes the form and what he does is to be given atime normally a year or so, to recruit a number <strong>of</strong> members from every corner <strong>of</strong> the country. I think this should be fiftythousand.Com. Lethome: My question is, you have them registered already. Now do we deregister some <strong>of</strong> them?Onesmus Ngare: Now what is at the moment,…. Yes we should go back and really do something about this. Those with onlyone member and others don’t have any members. I mean they are representing nobody.Com. Bishop Njoroge: Thank you very much.
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