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4ambayo itatuongoza katika siku zijazo na kuweza kutupa nchi ambayo ni nzuri zaidi ambayo pia watoto wetu watawezakufaidika nayo. Kwa hayo machache, namwachia mwenye kiti wa kikao Bishop Njoroge.Com. Bishop Njoroge: Tukianza kutoa maoni, tutampatia kila mtu nafasi. Na mtu akitoa maoni yake, tutakubaliana kwambahakuna mtu ataingilia mwingine anapotoa maoni. Sawasawa? Hata ukisikia hasemi vizuri. Hiyo ni maoni ya nani?Audience: Yake.Com. Bishop Njoroge: Yake.Wakati utafika wewe utoe maoni yako. Ya pili tunataka tukubaliane kwamba tunaweza kutumialugha zote. Lugha ya Kiingereza, lugha ya Kiswahili na wale hawafahamu lugha hizo vizuri, wanaweza kuzungumza Kikuyu naitatafsiriwa. Sawa sawa?Audience: Sawa.Com. Bishop Njoroge: Kwa sababu hatutaki kumuacha mtu nje. Maoni yake ni ya muhimu. Jambo la tatu ni kwamba kunawale wamekuja na Memorandum. Wale wamekuja na nini?Audience: Memorandum.Com. Bishop Njoroge: Ukiwa una Memorandum, hatutaki wewe useme yote yaliyo katika memorandum kwa sababututachukua hiyo memorandum. Tukienda Nairobi tutaitengeneza na kuiweka katika mahali inayofaa. Kwa hivyo tusipotezemuda mwingi ili tuweze kusikiza watu wengi. Ukiwa na Memorandum, taja tu points. Sawa sawa. Kwa sababu tutaichukuatwende nayo. Lakini kama huna memorandum, tunahitaji uzungumze yote ili kwamba tuweze kuyapokea na kuiweka katikakadude haka. Sawa sawa? Kuna swali sasa. Tumekubaliana? Uliza.Interjection: Sasa mtu akiwa na memorandum yake na anataka kusoma ndio watu wasikie, na wewe unasema lazima mtuasome points. Inaweza kuwa wewe umetengeneza vizuri watu wasikie na mwingine anaweza kupata chance ya ku-correct.Com. Bishop Njoroge: Hilo ni swali nzuri. Huelezi maoni yako kwa hao watu. Si ni kweli? Mtu afanye nini? Rafiki yakeanaweza kusimama ifike ya Taliban.(inaudible) Maoni yale tunatoa hapa, ni ya kutengeneza nini?Audience: Katiba.Com. Bishop Njoroge: Na maoni yako ikifika mahali inachukuliwa na kuwekwa mahali ya katiba. Hiyo ndio inafaa.Sawasawa? Kwa sababu hii ndio njia ya kutengeneza katiba. Kwa hivyo haja yako ni maoni yako. Na iende Nairobi na
5ifanywe Katiba. Kwa sababu ukihimiza sana, kuna wengine watakosa nafasi. Na tunataka kusikiza kila mwananchi. Kuna mtumwingine ana swali? Tuanze sasa. Tunaanza kwa pamoja. Sawa. Jambo lingine moja. Katika code of conduct yetu sasa,tunasema ukizungumza usimtaje mtu kwa jina mbaya au kuharibu jina la mtu yeyote. Sawasawa, hiyo tunaweza kukubaliana.Kwa sababu Katiba sio ya mtu ni yetu pamoja.Kwa hivyo ukitaja jina kama kuharibu jina la mtu,hiyo hatukubali. Kwa sababu itakuwa siasa. Si ni kweli? Kwa hivyo wewetaja mambo kama ni ya utawala kama sio mzuri. Ungetaka nini? Lakini tuwaache watu nini? Nje. Kwa sababu mnafikiri haowatu watasaidia kutengeneza katiba? Kwa nini tuwataje? So, ukija kwa njia ya kutukana mtu mwingine nitakunyamazisha.Nitakuwa nimefanya makosa?Audience: Hapana.Com. Bishop Njoroge: Mnajua Biblia inasema, watu wawili hawawezi kwenda pamoja bila kuwa na mahidiano. Kana tiguo?Andu eri matingituarana matari naki?Audience: Kariko.Com. Bishop Njoroge: Ihatikoragwo kariko. Ndirenda mundu a ndume kariko. Asante. Sasa tungetaka kusikiza Stanley K.Kagombe.Stanley K. Kagombe: Asanteni sana. Kwa jina naitwa vile mmesikia. Stanley Kigara Kagombe. Niko na memorandum lakininiko na section ambayo iko outside the memorandum. Na hiyo ndiyo ningetaka kusoma but with the memorandum hiyo ndionitapatia the Commission. This memorandum is for and on behalf of the Miiria clan, which they have discussed and resolved togive.I will start with land and property Rights. Let it be on record in our new Constitution, that the people of Kenya are sovereignand that no law or authority including even the Constitution is above the people. Let it be further noted that we are committed tothe future of Kenya as a united and indivisible country and composed of people of diverse cultures whose Rights are inviolable.During the emergency in 1952, Kenyans joined hands to free themselves from the yoke of colonialism,but little did we knowthat we freed ourselves from white colonialism and shifted to what one would literally term as black colonialism - In that thewhite colonialism, granted the whites large chunks of land, - that is the white highlands,-which you are aware of, whileindependence granted the same to a few blacks.The new Constitution should address itself to the fact that the population is increasing on a daily basis while land remains static.
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Page 3: 3Samuel Wanjohi: Kwa mkutano, hawa
Page 7 and 8: 7The Vice President should be commu
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Page 11 and 12: 11wakuu kwa sababu tunaona ya kwamb
Page 13 and 14: 13involvement and in other fields t
Page 15 and 16: 15Com. Bishop Njoroge: Usiondoke ha
Page 17 and 18: 17Com. Bishop Njoroge: Now, we are
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Page 21 and 22: 21Diversity of a Kenyan ethnicity a
Page 23 and 24: 23Com. Lethome: Mheshimiwa sorry I
Page 25 and 26: 25suggestions will enrich us. May I
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Page 31 and 32: 31The Judiciary: We need to have a
Page 33 and 34: 33Com. Bishop Njoroge: Okay. Fine.
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Page 37 and 38: 37Charles Macharia: World Bank shou
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Page 41 and 42: 41Onesmus Ngare: Not at all.Com. Bi
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Page 45 and 46: 45Audience: Tunataka.Keriako Tobiko
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55Ghalama: Ghalama ya hospitali na
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57see that our money is properly us
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59Gethi Mwai: Yah. I am doing that.
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61public servants can be answerable
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63Com. Keriako Tobiko: Excuse me Pa
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65have access to places of worship.
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67guthii na iguru.Translator: The P
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69Com. Keriako Tobiko: Thank you so
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71The second point I am going to ta
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73Jomo Kenyatta ikawa kuna watu wan
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75Com. Bishop Njoroge: Labda, sijui
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77Com. Lethome: Asante sana Bwana M
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79Translator: Commissioners, watoto
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81Geoffrey Gakuo: Thank you. Kwanza
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83Ashbel Macharia: Thank you Honora
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85Wachira Mwago: Thank you very muc
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87Samuel Thambo: Mundu aheo wira ku
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89Esther Mukami Githaiga: Nyimbo ci
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91Lucy Wanjugu: Uguo thiirikari ige
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93Translator: That the Lancaster Co
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95and am not going to repeat. Thank
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97Com. Keriako Tobiko: Thank you so
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99James Mwangi Muthiga: Kenyatta da
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101I am also proposing that the Pre
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103Com. Keriako Tobiko: Sasa la mwi
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105Gachachi. Kibaru Muhoro. Kagema
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107Com. Keriako Tobiko: Kama vipi?N
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109The vulnerable groups: Make prov
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111Com. Keriako Tobiko: Lastly.Char
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113Simon Gachemi: Uguo no nyende ku
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115Hiyo iwe abolished. Na Sub-chief
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117ituike niyo ohorirwo.Translator:
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119Com. Keriako Tobiko: Sawa sawa.Z
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121transferred. We have treaties wh
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123Vice Chairlady CCC: Sitakaa. Lak
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