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112Simon Muturi : My names are Simon Muturi. I have only three points. One. On retirement, the President should be barred byConstitution from participating in active politics - whether be it party or national level.Number two. The national resources - the so called national cake, there should be a national technical committee to overseehow the resources are allocated in each Constituency. To avoid, a situation where everybody wants the national cake.Number three and the last one is that there should be an interim period in which to practice this Constitution that you are makingright today. That is…..Com. Keriako Tobiko: After the completion of the…..Simon Muturi: Yes, after the completion of Constitution making. At least there should be one year to put into practice whatwe …..so that it doesn’t become so theoretical. That is all.Com. Keriako Tobiko: Iko mzee bado kuongea. Mumesha angalia? Sasa yule ambaye ako na jambo ambalo halijasemwa nahao wengine ambao wameshaongea, Yes, please.Simon Gachemi Gatiba: Mimi naitwa Simon Gachemi Gatiba. From Ndiraku Sub-location, Kiamukui location. Kitu ile yamaana mimi naweza kusema hapa, kubadirisha katiba, ile imetufinya sana, ni habari ya ukumbi wa Rais. Hebu niongee kwakikuyu ndio niende kwa haraka.Simon Gachemi Gatiba: Undu uria ingienda uhoro wa katiba guchenjio niundu wa Kenya. Ni thina uria twina guo niundu wagukorwo ari iguru wa watho thiini wa bururi uyu witu wa Kenya.Translator: We have a problem because the President is above the law.Simon Gachemi Gatiba: Undu uria ungi ni uhoro wa migunda. Wa kuima subclans hinya ni undu wa migunda. Tugatunyagwomigunda na njira ya kuaga haki.Translator: Clans should be able to control land.Com. Keriako Tobiko: Clans?Translator: Yes. Clans.
113Simon Gachemi: Uguo no nyende kuuga, katiba icenjio ne erorwo hau uhoro wa clan. Muhiriga uheo hinya tondu nio moiuhoro wa andu aria mari area iyo na aria mabatie kugaya. Undu uria ungi ni uhoro wa andu aria mahikite. Makaga kugiria cianacia anake aria mahikiire mundu akua. Magoka kuingata ciana cia mundu uria wakua. Magoka makagaya kuria mahikite namakagaya kuu.Translator: That the married women get inheritance from where they are married and from their parents place. He is againstthat. That the married ladies should get inheritance from where they are married.Simon Gachemi: Kwoguo katiba iria irikuo thiini wa Kenya. Ndirarora no kuhatiiriria irahatiriria andu aria mari bururi uyu waKenya. Hau ni ndoima. Haria hangi. Ni uhoro wa Rais o wothe. Gutiri abatie gukorwo agithura munene wa borithi kana wajeshi. Kana kuga ati ucio niwe munene na uria ungi.Translator: President should not be able to choose every other person. Like police and other senior officers.Com. Keriako Tobiko: Mzee la mwisho.Simon Gachemi Gatiba: Uria ungi ni uhoro wa Rais hingo ciothe. Agathiaga akirutaga mbecha na no cia bururi araruta. Handuguteithia ciana cionje na ciana cia ndigwa. Agathiaga akiheanaga marigu na matumbi na kuhe ikundi mbecha iria itangiteithiaandu maigana una thiini wa Kenya.Translator: That the President buys bananas and gives money on the roadside…..Simon Gachemi Gatiba: Riria kwina ciana iria ingi ikomete barabara na aciari. Handu hakumateithia.Translator: He is made a recommendation. That such money should help the disabled.Simon Gachemi Gatiba: Undu uria ungi ni migunda yana guku Laikipia. Kunengera aria matunyirwo macokerio. Asante.Com. Keriako Tobiko: Asante. Nani amekupatia nafasi wewe.John Maina Mugongo: Ni huyu.Com. Keriako Tobiko: Okay. Nakupatia dakika mbili. Maana umechukua nafasi ya mtu mwingine.
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3Samuel Wanjohi: Kwa mkutano, hawa
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5ifanywe Katiba. Kwa sababu ukihimi
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7The Vice President should be commu
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9tumekuwa tukipigania ili tujue jin
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11wakuu kwa sababu tunaona ya kwamb
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13involvement and in other fields t
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15Com. Bishop Njoroge: Usiondoke ha
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17Com. Bishop Njoroge: Now, we are
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19memorandum wanaweza kupeana, Wanj
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21Diversity of a Kenyan ethnicity a
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23Com. Lethome: Mheshimiwa sorry I
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25suggestions will enrich us. May I
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27thinking and the political activi
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29Alexander Mwangi Magoti maria mar
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31The Judiciary: We need to have a
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33Com. Bishop Njoroge: Okay. Fine.
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35because members of Parliament and
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37Charles Macharia: World Bank shou
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39Com. Bishop Bernard Njoroge Sawa.
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41Onesmus Ngare: Not at all.Com. Bi
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43John G. Mwangi: Thank you very mu
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45Audience: Tunataka.Keriako Tobiko
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47effect and plastics should be add
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49Com. Bishop Njoroge: Thank you ve
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51Com. Bishop Njoroge: No, do not e
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53finish writing the report, we are
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55Ghalama: Ghalama ya hospitali na
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57see that our money is properly us
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59Gethi Mwai: Yah. I am doing that.
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Page 63 and 64: 63Com. Keriako Tobiko: Excuse me Pa
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Page 67 and 68: 67guthii na iguru.Translator: The P
Page 69 and 70: 69Com. Keriako Tobiko: Thank you so
Page 71 and 72: 71The second point I am going to ta
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Page 75 and 76: 75Com. Bishop Njoroge: Labda, sijui
Page 77 and 78: 77Com. Lethome: Asante sana Bwana M
Page 79 and 80: 79Translator: Commissioners, watoto
Page 81 and 82: 81Geoffrey Gakuo: Thank you. Kwanza
Page 83 and 84: 83Ashbel Macharia: Thank you Honora
Page 85 and 86: 85Wachira Mwago: Thank you very muc
Page 87 and 88: 87Samuel Thambo: Mundu aheo wira ku
Page 89 and 90: 89Esther Mukami Githaiga: Nyimbo ci
Page 91 and 92: 91Lucy Wanjugu: Uguo thiirikari ige
Page 93 and 94: 93Translator: That the Lancaster Co
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Page 97 and 98: 97Com. Keriako Tobiko: Thank you so
Page 99 and 100: 99James Mwangi Muthiga: Kenyatta da
Page 101 and 102: 101I am also proposing that the Pre
Page 103 and 104: 103Com. Keriako Tobiko: Sasa la mwi
Page 105 and 106: 105Gachachi. Kibaru Muhoro. Kagema
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Page 109 and 110: 109The vulnerable groups: Make prov
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Page 115 and 116: 115Hiyo iwe abolished. Na Sub-chief
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Page 119 and 120: 119Com. Keriako Tobiko: Sawa sawa.Z
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Page 123 and 124: 123Vice Chairlady CCC: Sitakaa. Lak
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