interviewRB: This is a very complex question. Ithink that at the end of the day, you onlysee what you are ready to see. I don’t thinkthat I could be doing what I am doing; sayfive years ago, so ultimately what I amdoing is an imaginative creative exerciseworking in a particular place that I call theboarding house. On one hand, photographyis about light reflecting from thephysical objects. On the other hand, it’sabout how you integrate the world andthe space around you to create meaningin the pictures. It is an interactive process,but ultimately it is about the way I see andthink.JL: How do the inhabitants react to you beingthere?Roger Ballen, from the monograph Boarding House, courtesy of the artist andGagosian GalleryAn Interview with Roger BallenBy Jason Landry, November 18, 2009Jason Landry: How did you go from being ageologist and mining consultant to a photographer?Roger Ballen: I was a photographerbefore I was involved in the geologybusiness. My mother worked at Magnumin the 1960s and started one of the firstphotography galleries in the states. So, I’vebeen involved in photography, one way orthe other, since I was a young boy. I firststarted taking serious pictures around1968 and have been doing that for nowover forty years. I decided quite early onthat I didn’t want to be a professional photographer.I didn’t want to make a livingtaking pictures. <strong>Photography</strong> for me was avery personal exercise and I really wasn’tinterested in the type of assignments thatcommercial photographers were doing. SoI decided that I wanted to do somethingthat involved work in the outdoors anddecided that being a geologist fitted myneeds. I’m very lucky in a sense that geologysupported this habit for thirty yearsbefore I started to make a living out of it.JL: There is a real primitive aspect of the humancondition that is drawn out through theimages in your monograph Boarding House.David Travis talks about it in the introductionto the book. Do you compose the images in yourmind prior to photographing them, or do youreact to each individual scenario?RB: I’ve gotten to know the inhabitantsvery well and I’ve been in very strangeplaces for many years so I think I’ve feltthe sixth sense on how to work with peoplein these places. The people were very,very pleased that I came into the boardinghouse to photograph. I think they enjoyedposing, they enjoyed working with me, andthey enjoyed talking to me. Things like thisdon’t work out well unless they’re interactiveand ultimately don’t work out welllike other things in life if both sides don’tbenefit, so it never was a one-way street.JL: Are you more interested in the objects thatare in the boarding house or the people?RB: I wouldn’t say either; I think I’m interestedin creating a holistic photograph. Aphotograph that reflects a certain level ofdepth of meaning and an ability to expressmy own style, whether that involves usinganimals or objects or people, it isn’t reallythat relevant. For many, many years mostof my photographs had people in them.Somewhere around 2003, the faces disappeared.There have always been traces ofpeople in the photographs. It’s quite interestingby removing the faces, the otheraspects of the photograph have a lot morespace to breath and they come forth in amuch more integrated way than if there isa strong facial presence of a subject. Therewere always many aspects in those photographsI really never looked at, and nowthey are being looked at because thereisn’t a particular face in the photograph.18 > www.prcboston.org
Roger Ballen, from the monograph Boarding House, courtesy of the artist and Gagosian GalleryJL: Do you find any aspects of your work thatconnect with the South African culture?RB: The boarding house obviously hadcertain aspects of South African culture init. For example, there were witch doctorsand other mixes of African cultures in it.There are other cultures such as whitecultures, Indian cultures, but when youlook at South African culture, it is more orless of a melting pot of cultures like theUnited States. My goal wasn’t to necessarilyrepresent South African cultures or toportray it, my goal ultimately was to makevisual statements that had universal sensibilityand aesthetic to them. It isn’t reallynecessary to know anything about SouthAfrican culture to feel or have impactfrom these images.JL: Have there been any challenges in translatingyour images to book form?RB: At the end of the day, each pictureshould have its own meaning. I think themost important thing is that each imageshould be strong. Each image came fromthe same mother, per say, so there shouldbe some link in a book some way or another.There are always issues on how bigto make the book, or how one picture willgo with the next, but there is a cinematicquality to it, one picture following theother. Ultimately it is about each individualpicture.JL: Do you have any plans to transition yourwork from black and white to color?RB: ZERO plans! I don’t like color at all. SoI do not have any interest in working incolor. I’m quite satisfied with how I work.I get good pictures. Why change things?You’re only asking for trouble.www.prcboston.org > 19