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1Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012KR/LT/1A/11.00The House met at eleven of the clock,MR. CHAIRMAN, in the Chair.---ी राजीव ताप रूडी : सभापित जी, एक बहुत ही आवयक िवषयहै..(यवधान)..ी सभापित : रूडी जी, यह क्वेचन ऑवर है।ी राजीव ताप रूडी : सभापित जी, यह बहुत महत्वपूणर् िवषय है, इस सबंधम हमने सपशन ऑफ क्वेचन ऑवर का नोिटस भी िदया है। यिद आप एक क्षणसुन ल, तो उसके बाद ..(यवधान)..MR. CHAIRMAN: Please, there is no suspension of Question Hour.ी राजीव ताप रूडी : सभापित जी, यह क्वेचन ऑवर तो है, लेिकन यहराटर् का िवषय है..(यवधान)..MR. CHAIRMAN: You can't raise questions which are not listed here.ी राजीव ताप रूडी : एक समाचार कािशत हुआ है, िजसम 1 लाख 80हजार करोड़ रुपये के ..(यवधान)..आवंटन का समाचार ात हुआहै..(यवधान)..सभापित जी, यह अपने आप म ही एक बहुत गंभीर िवषयहै..(यवधान)..

2Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012ी सभापित : रूडी जी, सुिनए, you know the procedures of the House.The questions are listed; we don't take questions outside thesequestions. ...(Interruptions)... देिखए, This is not going on record....(Interruptions)... This is not going on record. ...(Interruptions)...ी राजीव ताप रूडी : *ी फग्गन िंसह कु लते : *MR. CHAIRMAN: Reports are all tabled in the House, then, they arediscussed. ..(Interruptions)... देिखए, you can't put all these onrecord. It is not there. ..(Interruptions)... Look, this is not going onrecord. ..(Interruptions)... आपकी बात कौन सुन रहा है?.. ..(यवधान)..Why are you wasting your breath? ..(Interruptions)... Will you pleaseallow the Question Hour to proceed? ... (Interruptions)... It can't betaken up in this manner. ..(Interruptions)... You can't do this.ी िशवानन्द ितवारी : *संसदीय कायर् मंतर्ालय म राज्य मंतर्ी (ी राजीव शु) : सभापित जी, िरपोटर्टेबल कहाँ हुई है?..(यवधान)..where is the report? ...(Interruptions)...Where is the report? ...(Interruptions)... The report has not yet beentabled.

3Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012SHRI T.M. SELVAGANAPATHI : Sir, I have lost about nearly fivequestions during Question Hour which are of very important nature*Not recorded.because of the obstruction tactics.MR. CHAIRMAN: The House is adjourned for fifteen minutes.---The House then adjourned at three minutespast eleven of the clock.AKG-TMV/1B/11.15The House reassembled at eighteen minutes past elevenof the clock, MR. CHAIRMAN in the Chair.-----MR. CHAIRMAN: Question No. 641. (Interruptions)...ी काश जावडेकर : सर, के वल दो िमनट दे दीिजए। ...(यवधान)...MR. CHAIRMAN: Please allow the Question Hour. (Interruptions)...Please allow the Question Hour. (Interruptions)... Prakashji,please. (Interruptions)...ी काश जावडेकर : सर, के वल दो िमनट दे दीिजए। ... (यवधान) ...1 लाख 80 हजार करोड़ ...(यवधान)...

4Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012SHRI PRASANTA CHATTERJEE: Sir, the Minister can respond to it.(Interruptions)... It has come in the newspapers. (Interruptions)...Every day some ghotala is coming. (Interruptions)...MR. CHAIRMAN: No. (Interruptions)... There are agreedprocedures for taking up the issues in the House. (Interruptions)...ी िशवानन्द ितवारी : सर, इनको अपनी बात कह लेने दीिजए।...(यवधान)...ी रामिवलास पासवान : 67 हजार करोड़ का घोटाला िबहार म हुआ है।...(यवधान)...ी सभापित : देिखए, 20 आदमी बोलने के िलए खड़े हो जाएँगे, तो...(यवधान)...ी काश जावडेकर : सर, घोटाला हुआ है ...(यवधान)...ी राम कृ पाल यादव : सर, िबहार म 67 हजार करोड़ का घोटाला हुआ है।...(यवधान)... उसकी िचन्ता नहीं हो रही है। ...(यवधान)...MR. CHAIRMAN: There are certain procedures. (Interruptions)...Please follow them. (Interruptions)...SHRI M. VENKAIAH NAIDU: Let the Question Hour go on. Let thebusiness go on.You allow him after the Question Hour.(Interruptions)..

5Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012MR. CHAIRMAN: You are not allowing the Question Hour to proceed.(Interruptions)...SHRI T. M. SELVAGANAPATHI: Sir, let them raise it after theQuestion Hour. (Interruptions) ... The Opposition can always raisethe issue after the Question Hour. (Interruptions)...ी िशवानन्द ितवारी : इसिलए हम कह रहे ह िक इनको दो िमनट बोलनेदीिजए। ...(यवधान)...ी सभापित : दो िमनट का सवाल नहीं है। ...(यवधान)...ी िशवानन्द ितवारी : ऐसा पहले भी हुआ है। ...(यवधान)...ी राम कृ पाल यादव : सर, िबहार म भी 67 हजार करोड़ का घोटाला हुआ है।...(यवधान)...SHRI T. M. SELVAGANAPATHI: Sir, the Opposition can always raisethe issue after the Question Hour. (Interruptions)...SHRI RAJIV PRATAP RUDY:Sir, you allow us at 12 o’clock.(Interruptions)...MR. CHAIRMAN: You can’t hold compass at the Chair and ask togive this time or that time. (Interruptions)...Please allow theQuestion Hour. (Interruptions)...

6Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012ी िशवानन्द ितवारी : सर, क्वैचन ऑवर के बाद समय देने का आवासन देदीिजए। ...(यवधान)...ी सभापित : ितवारी जी, आपको मालूम है िक ज़ीरो ऑवर का नोिटस िदयाजाता है, नोिटस admit होता है, उसके बाद ज़ीरो ऑवर म लोग बोलते ह।...(यवधान)... He has not given a Zero Hour notice. (Interruptions)...ी राजीव ताप रूडी : सर, सुबह 8 बज कर 45 िमनट पर writing म नोिटसिदया गया है। ...(यवधान)...ी सभापित : आपका नोिटस suspension of Question Hour का है। Thathas not been agreed to. (Interruptions)...(Contd. by 1C/VK)VK-SCH/1C/11.20MR. CHAIRMAN (CONTD.): It is not the responsibility of the Chair toconvert from one to the other. (Interruptions). Please allow theQuestion Hour to proceed. (Interruptions).ी काश जावडेकर: सर, आप दो िमनट सुन तो लीिजए ..(यवधान)SHRI RAJIV PRATAP RUDY: *ी सतीश चन्दर् िमा: *MR. CHAIRMAN: Rudyji, please don’t bring up matters.....(Interruptions). None of this is going on record. Why are you

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8Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012unnecessarily interrupting the Question Hour? (Interruptions). If youhave given notice, it will be considered for zero hour. If you have notgiven notice, it will not be considered. (Interruptions). The House isadjourned till 12.00 hrs.-----The House then adjourned at twenty-oneminutes past eleven of the clock

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12Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012RG/12.00/1DThe House re-assembled at twelve of the clock,THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN) in the Chair.----SHORT NOTICE Q. NO. 12SHRI K.N. BALAGOPAL: Sir, in Kerala, earlier, the subsidized PDSkerosene was given to nearly 50 lakh families. Now, because of theTotal Electrification Programme, this number has come down toaround 9 lakhs. Also, kerosene quota has been reduced, and a verymeager amount of kerosene is being given to the State. Now gas isalso not available easily. I would like to know whether the Governmentwill consider increasing the kerosene supply to families so that allfamilies would get, at least, two or three litres of kerosene, which wasbeing given earlier.SHRI R.P.N. SINGH: Sir, PDS kerosene is used for cooking andillumination. The question that is being raised by the hon. Member isabout fishermen. I can assure the hon. Member that if Kerala wantsextra kerosene, we can supply them non-PDS kerosene. Whateverquantity of non-PDS kerosene they want for fishermen, we cansupply. Like, Tamil Nadu also had required non-PDS kerosene for

13Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012SHORT NOTICE Q. NO. 12 (Contd.)their fishermen, and they reduced the sales tax on that so that it wouldbe helpful to the fishermen.SHRI K.N. BALAGOPAL: Sir, I asked about quota for familiesbecause, earlier, the fishermen quota was allotted from the PDS quotafor the households. Now, because of the Total ElectrificationProgramme which we have implemented, our quota was reducedcompared to other States. Secondly, I want to know whetherfisheries come under agriculture. Is any State getting the subsidizedquota of kerosene for agriculture? And, since fisheries, includingdeep-sea fisheries, come under agricultural activity, I would like toknow whether subsidized kerosene can be given to fishermen.SHRI R.P.N. SINGH: Sir, we are not supplying PDS kerosene for anyagricultural purposes. As I have mentioned earlier, PDS kerosene isonly for cooking purposes and illumination. We are supplying PDSkerosene quota for these two primary purposes. The hon. Memberhad asked as to why the quantity of kerosene to Kerala is beingreduced. We have rationalized the quantities of kerosene being

14Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012supplied to all the States, and that is, by a three-step procedurewhich the Government has introduced. The first procedure is whetherSHORT NOTICE Q. NO. 12 (Contd.)the States had not lifted kerosene during the first two quarters of 2011-12 signifying excess supply over demand. The allocation hasaccordingly been reduced by the un-lifted SKO quality of kerosene. InKerala, it was nil. So, we have not reduced it according to thiscategory. In the second category, with the increase in LPG coverageacross the country, it is natural that the requirement of cooking fuel,PDS kerosene, would reduce, and that the allocation of kerosene toStates need to be modified accordingly. Therefore, it is to be seenwhether the LPG coverage is beyond the national average. Thenational average is 59 per cent, while, in Kerala, the average LPGcoverage was to the extent of 97 per cent. Since the LPG coveragehas been beyond the national average, the allocation has beenreduced to 24 litres per card for new LPG connections and nil for theDBC connection.(Continued by 1E)SSS-VNK/1E/12.05

15Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012SHRI R. P. N. SINGH (CONTD.): The actual reduction has beenmade of only 75 per cent of the actual LPG spread to allow for errorssuch as multiple connections. Wherever it has been found to be moreSHORT NOTICE Q. NO. 12 (Contd.)than 19 per cent, we have rationalised it to just ten per cent of thekerosene allocated accordingly. Under this procedure, the cut inKerala has been about 28,370 kilolitres, and I can assure the hon.Member, if any dubious connections or any wrong, faulty connectionsof LPG have been found, we are writing to all States. If there are anydubious connections of LPG connections, if they are cut by theGovernment of any State, we will supply the amount of the number ofLPG dubious connections. According to that cut in LPG coverage,we will give 36 litres of it. There is a large variation in the scales ofkerosene allocation adopted by different States across the country,and, therefore, the allocation process has been standardised to 36litres per capita per year to non-LPG production. Accordingly, the cutin Kerala has been 48,562 kilolitres, and in the same way, this hasbeen introduced in all the States of India, which leads to about 39 per

16Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012cent reduction in Kerala, while J&K, North-East States and theIslands have been left out of these schemes.ी नतुजी हालाजी ठाकोर: सर, जो के रल का मामला है, वही गुजरात का भीमामला है। गुजरात म भी िमी के तेल की आपूिर्त म 32 परसट की कटौती कीगई है। हमारे यहां भी 1600 िकलोमीटर कोटल एिरया है और वहां जो मछु वारेSHORT NOTICE Q. NO. 12 (Contd.)ह, वे भी अपनी नौकाओं के िलए िमी के तेल का उपयोग करते ह। मेरी मंतर्ी जीसे दरख्वात है िक अभी-अभी जो जनगणना हुई है, उसम गुजरात कीजनसंख्या म 20 परसट का इजाफा हुआ है और आपने वहां िमी के तेल कीआपूिर्त म 32 परसट की कटौती कर दी है। यह हमारे िलए और गुजरात के िलएअन्याय की बात है। गरीब आदमी, जो मछु वारे ह, वे अपनी रोजी-रोटी के िलएदिरयाई क्षेतर् म जाते ह और उनके भरण-पोषण के िलए यह जरूरी है।...(यवधान)...THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P. J. KURIEN):Please put yourquestion.ी नतुजी हालाजी ठाकोर: सर, आपके माध्यम से माननीय मंतर्ी जी से यहपूछना चाहता हूँ िक िमी के तेल की आपूिर्त म जो कटौती की गई है, क्या वेउसकी भरपाई करगे?

17Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012ी आर.पी.एन. िंसह: सर, यह सवाल के रल के िलए है, लेिकन म िफर भीगुजरात के बारे म बता दू ं िक माननीय सदय ने जो कहा िक हमने गुजरात म 32परसट allotment काटा है, यह िबकु ल सही नहीं है, ऐसी कोई बात नहीं है।इस वषर् हमने गुजरात का allocation काटा ही नहीं है।ी नतुजी हालाजी ठाकोर: सर, गुजरात का 32 परसट allocation काटा गयाहै।...(यवधान)... आप के रल को दे रहे ह, तो गुजरात को क्य नहीं दे रहेह?...(यवधान)...SHORT NOTICE Q. NO. 12 (Contd.)ी नरेश अगर्वाल: ीम, म आपके माध्यम से माननीय मंतर्ी जी से पूछनाचाहता हूँ िक क्या देश के कु छ िहसे म िमी के तेल के िलए डायरेक्ट सिसडीदी गई, तो वहां पर िडमांड एकदम घट गई, करीब 90 परसट िडमांड घट गई?अगर यह सच है, तो क्या आप पूरे देश म के रोिसन तेल पर जो सिसडी दे रहेह, उसको डायरेक्ट देने की योजना बना रहे ह? यिद हां, तो कब तक?मेरे न का दूसरा भाग यह है िक पेटर्ोिलयम सिसडी के कारण भारतसरकार पर बहुत बोझ है। िमी के तेल म शायद 14 रुपए ित लीटर का लॉसहै, तो माननीय मंतर्ी जी, क्या आप बताएंगे िक िमी के तेल, डीजल और पेटर्ोलपर िकतनी-िकतनी सिसडी दे रहे ह और इस सिसडी को घटाने के िलए भीआप कोई घोषणा करने जा रहे ह?

18Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012ी आर.पी.एन. िंसह: सर, माननीय सदय ने डायरेक्ट सिसडी देने की बातकी। म आपको कहना चाहता हूँ िक एक पायलट ोजेक्ट अलवर के एकतहसील म चल रहा है और वह बहुत ही successful ोगर्ाम रहा है। आगे चलकर यह योजना है िक पूरे देश म के रोिसन तेल पर जो सिसडी दी जा रही है,उसको आधार, जो UID की कीम है, के माध्यम से डायरेक्ट िदया जाएगा।...(यवधान)...ी नरेश अगर्वाल: सर, पायलट ोजेक्ट के तहत डायरेक्ट सिसडी देने सेिडमांड िकतनी कम हुई है, मेरा सवाल यह है?SHORT NOTICE Q. NO. 12 (Contd.)ी आर.पी.एन. िंसह: सर, अभी पायलट ोजेक्ट चल रहा है, अभी उसके पूरेआंकड़े हमारे पास नहीं आए ह, लेिकन जो देखने म आ रहा है, उससे यही कहसकते ह िक उससे हम बहुत फायदा हो रहा है। जब इसकी पूरी िरपोटर् आजाएगी, तब आप पूछगे, तो म आपको जरूर बता दू ंगा। इन्हने बहुत महत्वपूणर्सवाल सिसडी के बारे म उठाया है। म आपको बताना चाहता हूँ िक हम आजइस देश म एलपीजी के हर िसलेण्डर पर 503 रुपए सिसडी देते ह। िमी केतेल पर माननीय सदय ने 14 रुपए ित लीटर बताया, जब िक हम िमी केतेल पर ित लीटर 32 रुपए सिसडी देते ह।(1f/MCM पर जारी)

19Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012-VNK/MCM-NBR/1F/12-10ी आर0पी0एन0 िंसह (कर्मागत) : और आज डीजल पर हमारी ऑयलमाक िंटग कपनीज़ को तेरह रुपए चसठ पैसे का घाटा हो रहा है। िपछले वषर्देश पर सिसडी बडर्न 1,38,541 रुपए था। इस वषर् वह ।,89,605 रुपए बढ़करहोगा। जहां तक सिसडी घटाने की बात है, म तो इस हाऊस से अपील भीकरुं गा िक सिसडी तो बेिसकली आम आदमी, गरीब आदमी के िलए होती हैऔर लोअर िमिडल क्लास के िलए होती है। परन्तु एल0पी0जी0 के तमाम ऐसेपोजल हमको आने चािहए, जो आजअमीर आदमी भी एल0पी0जी0 कीसिसडी लेता है, वह न ले। हमारी के वल एल0पी0जी0 पर सिसडी 60 हजारकरोड़ रुपए सालाना बैठती है और के रोसीन ऑयल पर कम से कम 30 हजारSHORT NOTICE Q. NO. 12 (Contd.)करोड़ बैठती है। म समझता हूं िक एक पोजल ऐसा होना चािहए िक जहां सारेसांसद को अपना एल0पी0जी0 का सिसडी कोटा समात करना चािहए, एकराता िदखाना चािहए िक अमीर आदमी को एल0पी0जी0 पर सिसडी कतईनहीं लेनी चािहए, क्यिक सिसडी आम आदमी के िलए है, गरीब आदमी केिलए है।ी नरेश अगर्वाल : मंतर्ी जी, आप िहमत करके सदन म घोषणा किरए।ी राम कृ पाल यादव (िबहार) : सर, जैसा िक माननीय मंतर्ी जी ने अपने जवाबम यह कहा िक गरीब की सहायता के िलए खास तौर से के रोसीन ऑयल म जो

20Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012सिसडी की यवथा कर रहे ह, उसम साल म तीस हजार करोड़ रुपए दे रहेह। म समझता हूं िक के रोसीन ऑयल का दुरुपयोग बड़े पैमाने पर हो रहा है।खास तौर पर मने िबहार म देखा है, पटना म देखा है, जहां म रहता हूं, वहां बड़ेपैमाने पर के रोसीन ऑयल की िमलावट पेटर्ोल म होती है।आप पी0डी0एस0शॉप से और जो दूसरे टॉिकट ह, वहां से भी इसे गरीब को देने की यवथाकरते ह, परन्तु ये सब भी अपना के रोसीन ऑयल का टॉक पेटर्ोल म िमलवानेके िलए दे देते ह, िजससे गरीब का हक मारा जाता है। एक तो के रोसीन ऑयलिमलता नहीं है तथा गरीब को के रोसीन ऑयल की सिसडी का लाभ भी नहींिमल पाता है। म आपके माध्यम से जानना चाहता हूं िक पेटर्ोिलयम पदाथ म जोबड़े पैमाने पर के रोसीन ऑयल की िमलावट हो रही है, उसके िलए आप क्याSHORT NOTICE Q. NO. 12 (Contd.)देखरेख कर रहे ह और क्या कारर्वाई कर रहे ह तथा उस पर कै से िनयंतर्ण कररहे ह, तािक के रोसीन ऑयल पेटर्ोल म िमलाकर न बेचा जाए?ी आर0पी0एन0 िंसह : सर, म माननीय सद य को बताना चाहूंगा िक के रोसीनऑयल का जो िडिटर्यूशन होता है, वह राज्य सरकार करती ह। हमारी ऑयलमाक िंटग कपनीज िमी के तेल को जो ांत म िडपो बने हुए ह, उनके यहांपहुंचाती है। कई टेट्स म अलग िसटम भी है, परन्तु िमी के तेल का जोिडिटर्यूशन है, वह राज्य करते ह और हमने तमाम राज्य से कहा है िक उनके

21Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012िमी के तेल का जो एलोके शन है, उसम देखरेख करने की जरूरत है। मजानता हूं िक इसका गलत इतेमाल होता है। इसको रोकने के िलए जैसे िकहमारे माननीय सदय अगर्वाल साहब ने कहा था, उसम जब तक हम डॉयरेक्टसिसडी नहीं दगे, उसम जो किमयां ह, खािमयां ह बढ़ती रहगी।(समात)(1G/hms पर आगे)1g/12:15/ksPAPERS LAID ON THE TABLESHRI AJIT SINGH: Sir, I lay on the Table, under sub-section (3) ofSection 14A of the Aircraft Act, 1934, a copy (in English and Hindi)of the Ministry of Civil Aviation Notification No. G.S.R. 34 (E), datedthe 19 th January, 2012, publishing the Aircraft (Security) Rules, 2011,along with delay statement.SHRI MALLIKARJUN KHARGE: Sir, I lay on the Table, a copy each(in English and Hindi) of the following papers:—(a) Fifty-second Annual Report and Accounts of the CentralBoard for Workers Education, Nagpur, for the year 2010-11,together with the Auditor's Report on the Accounts.(b) Review by Government on the working of the above Board.(c) Statement giving reasons for the delay in laying the papersmentioned at (a) above.SHRI PRAFUL PATEL: Sir, I lay on the Table, a copy each

22Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012(in English and Hindi) of the following papers:—(i) Memorandum of Understanding between the Governmentof India (Ministry of Heavy Industries and PublicEnterprises, Department of Heavy Industry) and theHindustan Paper Corporation Limited (HPC), for the year2012-13.(ii) Memorandum of Understanding between the Governmentof India (Ministry of Heavy Industries and PublicEnterprises, Department of Heavy Industry) and the NEPALimited, for the year 2012-13.SHRI NAMO NARAIN MEENA: Sir, I, on behalf of Shri Srikant Jena,lay on the Table —I. A copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following papers,under sub-section (1) of Section 619 A of the Companies Act, 1956:—(a) Thirty-second Annual Report and Accounts of theRajasthan Drugs and Pharmaceuticals Limited (RDPL),Jaipur, for the year 2010-11, together with the Auditor'sReport on the Accounts and the comments of theComptroller and Auditor General of India thereon.(b) Review by Government on the working of the aboveCompany.II. A copy each (in English and Hindi) of the followingpapers:—(i)(a) Annual Report of National Statistical Commission (NSC),

23Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012New Delhi, for the year 2010-11.(b) Action Taken Report on the recommendations of theNational Statistical Commission (NSC), New Delhi, for theyear 2010-11.(c) Statement giving reasons for the delay in laying the papersmentioned at (i) (a) above.(ii) Memorandum of Understanding between the Government ofIndia (Ministry of Chemicals and Fertilizers, Department ofPharmaceuticals) and the Bengal Chemicals andPharmaceuticals Limited (BCPL), for the year 2012-13.(iii) Memorandum of Understanding between the Government ofIndia (Ministry of Chemicals and Fertilizers, Department ofChemicals and Petrochemicals) and the Brahmaputra Cracker& Polymer Limited, for the year 2012-13.SHRI RAJEEV SHUKLA: Sir, I, on behalf of Shri E. Ahamed, lay onthe Table, a copy each (in English and Hindi) of the followingpapers:—(a) Annual Accounts of the Hemwati Nandan BahugunaGarhwal University, Srinagar Garhwal, Uttarakhand, for theyear 2010-11, and the Audit Report thereon, under subsection(4) of Section 31 of the Central Universities Act,2009.(b) Statement giving reasons for the delay in laying the papersmentioned at (a) above.SHRI MULLAPPALLY RAMACHANDRAN: Sir, I lay on the Table,

24Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012under Section 389 of the New Delhi Municipal Council Act, 1994, acopy (in English and Hindi) of the Ministry of Home AffairsNotification No. 13(02)/2011/UD/MB/NDMC/4576, dated the 6 thMay-12 th May, 2011, publishing the Recruitment Regulations for thepost of Medical Officer of Health, New Delhi Municipal Council, 2011.SHRI RAJEEV SHUKLA: Sir, I, on behalf of Shri JyotiradityaMadhavrao Scindia, lay on the Table, a copy each (in English andHindi) of the following papers:—(i)(a) Annual Report and Accounts of the Bamboo TechnologyPark, Guwahati, for the year 2010-11, together with theAuditor's Report on the Accounts.(b) Review by Government on the working of the above Park.(c) Statement giving reasons for the delay in laying the papersmentioned at (i) (a) above.(ii)(a) First Annual Report and Accounts of the Indian ToolsTechnology Centre (ITTC), Jalandhar, for the year 2010-11,together with the Auditor's Report on the Accounts.(b) Review by Government on the working of the above Centre.(c) Statement giving reasons for the delay in laying the papersmentioned at (ii) (a) above.(iii)(a) Annual Report and Accounts of the Narol TextileInfrastructure & Enviro Management, Ahmedabad, for theyear 2010-11, together with the Auditor's Report on theAccounts.(b) Review by Government on the working of the above

25Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012Company.(c) Statement giving reasons for the delay in laying the papersmentioned at (iii) (a) above.SHRI RAJEEV SHUKLA: Sir, I, on behalf of Shrimati D.Purandeswari, lay on the Table, a copy each (in English and Hindi)of the following papers:—(a) Annual Report and Accounts of the National Institute ofFoundry & Forge Technology (NIFFT), Ranchi, for theyear 2010-11, together with the Auditor's Report on theAccounts.(b) Review by Government on the working of the aboveInstitute.(c) Statement giving reasons for the delay in laying thepapers mentioned at (a) above.SHRIMATI PANABAKA LAKSHMI: Sir, I lay on the Table, a copy (inEnglish and Hindi) of the Corrigendum to the * Outcome Budget forthe year 2012-13, in respect of the Ministry of Textiles.SHRI NAMO NARAIN MEENA: Sir, I lay on the Table —I. A copy each (in English and Hindi) of the followingNotifications of the Ministry of Finance (Department of EconomicAffairs), under Section 15 of the Government Savings Bank Act,1873:—(1) G.S.R. 320 (E), dated the 25 th April, 2012, publishing the* The Outcome Budget was laid on the Table on the 28 th March, 2012.

26Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012Post Office Recurring Deposit (Amendment) Rules, 2012.(2) G.S.R. 321 (E), dated the 25 th April, 2012, publishing theSenior Citizens Savings Scheme (Amendment) Rules,2012.(3) G.S.R. 322 (E), dated the 25 th April, 2012, publishing thePost Office (Monthly Income Account) Amendment Rules,2012.(4) G.S.R. 323 (E), dated the 25 th April, 2012, publishing thePost Office Time Deposit (Amendment) Rules, 2012.II. A copy each (in English and Hindi) of the followingNotifications of the Ministry of Finance (Department of EconomicAffairs), under Section 12 of the Government Savings CertificatesAct, 1959:—(1) G.S.R. 318 (E), dated the 25 th April, 2012, publishing theNational Savings Certificates (VIII Issue) (AmendmentRules), 2012.(2) G.S.R. 319 (E), dated the 25 th April, 2012, publishing theNational Savings Certificates (IX Issue) (Amendment)Rules, 2012.III. A copy (in English and Hindi) of the Ministry of Finance(Department of Economic Affairs) Notification No. G.S.R. 264 (E),dated the 30 th March, 2012, publishing the National Small SavingsFund (Custody and Investment) Amendment Rules, 2012, underclause (1) of article 283 of the Constitution.IV. A copy (in English and Hindi) of the Ministry of Finance(Department of Economic Affairs) Notification No. S.O. 904 (E),

27Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012dated the 25 th April, 2012, notifying that subscriptions made for onor after the 1 st day of April, 2012 and the balance at the credit of thesubscriber shall bear interest at the rate of 8.8 per cent per annum,under Section 12 of the Public Provident Fund Act, 1968.V. A copy (in English and Hindi) of the Ministry of Finance(Department of Economic Affairs) Notification No. G.S.R. 350 (E),dated the 10 th May, 2012, publishing the coinage of Ten Rupeesand Five Rupees coins to commemorate the occasion of 60 years ofthe Parliament of India, Rules, 2012, under sub-section (5) ofSection 24 of the Coinage Act, 2011.VI. A copy each (in English and Hindi) of the followingpapers:—(a) Annual Report and Accounts of the Indian EconomicService Section, Institute of Economic Growth, Delhi, forthe year 2010-11, together with Auditor’s Report on theAccounts.(b) Statement giving reasons for the delay in laying the papersmentioned at (a) above.SHRI NAMO NARAIN MEENA: Sir, I lay on the Table —I. A copy (in English and Hindi) of the Ministry of Finance(Department of Revenue) Notification No. G.S.R. 271 (E), datedthe 30 th March, 2012, publishing the Central Excise (ThirdAmendment) Rules, 2012, under sub-section (2) of Section 38 ofthe Central Excise Act, 1944.II. A copy (in English and Hindi) of the Ministry of Finance(Department of Revenue) Notification No. S.O. 942 (E), dated the

28Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.201230 th April, 2012, publishing the Income-tax (5 th Amendment) Rules,2012, under Section 296 of the Income-Tax Act, 1961, along withExplanatory Memorandum.SHRI GHULAM NABI AZAD: Sir, I lay on the Table —I. A copy each (in English and Hindi) of the followingNotifications of the Ministry of Health and Family Welfare(Department of AYUSH) under Section 36 of the Indian MedicineCentral Council Act, 1970:—(1) F. No. 8-4-/2011-Estt, dated the 17 th March - 23 rd March,2012, amending Regulations 81 and 82 of the CentralCouncil of Indian Medicine (General) Regulations, 1976.(2) No. 4-90/2011-Ay.(PG Regu.), dated the 19 th March,2012, publishing the Indian Medicine Central Council (Post-Graduate Ayurveda Education) Regulations, 2012.II. A copy (in English and Hindi) of the Ministry of Health andFamily Welfare (Department of AYUSH) Notification No. G.S.R. 279(E), dated the 2 nd April, 2012, publishing the Homoeopathy CentralCouncil (Election) Amendment Rules, 2012, under sub-section (2)of Section 32 of the Homoeopathy Central Council Act, 1973.SHRI GHULAM NABI AZAD: Sir, I lay on the Table, a copy each (inEnglish and Hindi) of the following papers:—(i)Annual Report and Accounts of the Gujarat Cancer andResearch Institute, Ahmedabad, for the year 2007-08,together with the Auditor's Report on the Accounts.Annual Report and Accounts of the Gujarat Cancer and

29Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012Research Institute, Ahmedabad, for the year 2008-09,together with the Auditor's Report on the Accounts.Balance Sheet (in English only) of the Gujarat Cancer andResearch Institute, Ahmedabad, for the year 2008-09.Annual Report and Accounts of the Gujarat Cancer andResearch Institute, Ahmedabad, for the year 2009-10,together with the Auditor's Report on the Accounts.Balance Sheet (in English only) of the Gujarat Cancer andResearch Institute, Ahmedabad, for the year 2009-10.Review by Government on the working of the aboveInstitute.Statement giving reasons for the delay in laying the papersmentioned at (i) (a), (b) and (d) above.(ii)Annual Report of the Kidwai Memorial Institute of Oncology,Bangalore, for the year 2007-08.Annual Accounts of the Kidwai Memorial Institute ofOncology, Bangalore, for the year 2007-08, and the AuditReport thereon.Annual Report of the Kidwai Memorial Institute of Oncology,Bangalore, for the year 2008-09.Annual Accounts of the Kidwai Memorial Institute ofOncology, Bangalore, for the year 2008-09, and the AuditReport thereon.Annual Report of the Kidwai Memorial Institute of Oncology,Bangalore, for the year 2009-10.

30Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012Annual Accounts of the Kidwai Memorial Institute ofOncology, Bangalore, for the year 2009-10, and the AuditReport thereon.(g) Review by Government on the working of the aboveInstitute.(h) Statement giving reasons for the delay in laying the papersmentioned at (ii) (a) to (f) above.(iii)Annual Report and Accounts of the Kamala Nehru MemorialHospital, Regional Cancer Centre, Allahabad, for the year2007-08, together with the Auditor's Report on theAccounts.Annual Report and Accounts of the Kamala Nehru MemorialHospital, Regional Cancer Centre, Allahabad, for the year2008-09, together with the Auditor's Report on theAccounts.Annual Report and Accounts of the Kamala Nehru MemorialHospital, Regional Cancer Centre, Allahabad, for the year2009-10, together with the Auditor's Report on theAccounts.Review by Government on the working of the aboveHospital.Statement giving reasons for the delay in laying the papersmentioned at (iii) (a) to (c) above.SHRI MULLAPPALLY RAMACHANDRAN: Sir, I lay on the Table —I. A copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following

31Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012Notifications of the Ministry of Home Affairs, under article 309 of theConstitution of India:—(1) G.S.R. 120 (E), dated the 6 th March, 2012, publishing theMinistry of Home Affairs, National Investigation AgencyFinger Print Expert (Group 'A' post) Recruitment Rules,2012.(2) G.S.R. 267 (E), dated the 30 th March, 2012, publishing theMinistry of Home Affairs, National Investigation AgencyGroup 'A' and 'B' posts Recruitment Rules, 2012.(3) G.S.R. 288 (E), dated the 10 th April, 2012, publishing theMinistry of Home Affairs, National Investigation AgencyGroup 'A' and 'B' posts Recruitment Rules, 2012.II. A copy each (in English and Hindi) of the followingNotifications of the Ministry of Home Affairs, under Section 26 of theNational Information Agency Act, 2008:—(1) S.O. 44 (E), dated the 9 th January, 2012, regardingappointment of Shri Sanjay Parihar, 3 rd Additional SessionJudge, Jammu as Judge to preside over NationalInvestigation Agency Special Court.(2) S.O. 45 (E), dated the 9 th January, 2012, regardingappointment of Additional Session Judge-01, New Delhi,Patiala House Courts, as Additional Judge to the NationalInvestigation Agency Special Court.(3) S.O. 693 (E), dated the 30 th March, 2012, regardingappointment of Shri M. Venkateswara Rao as PublicProsecutor for conducting the cases on behalf of the

32Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012National Investigation Agency in any court of law.(4) S.O. 893 (E), dated the 23 rd April, 2012, de-notifying theappointment of Shri Vivek Gupta, who was appointed asSpecial Public Prosecutor for conducting the casesinstituted by the National Investigation Agency.(5) S.O. 894 (E), dated the 23 rd April, 2012, de-notifying theappointment of Dr. D.C. Sarkar, who was appointed asSpecial Public Prosecutor for conducting the casesinstituted by the National Investigation Agency.(6) S.O. 989 (E), dated the 2 nd May, 2012, regardingconstitution of Special Courts under the NationalInvestigation Agency Act, 2008.(Ends)MESSAGE FROM LOK SABHATHE RAJIV GANDHI NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF YOUTHDEVELOPMENT BILL, 2012SECRETARY-GENERAL:Sir, I have to report to the House thefollowing message received from the Lok Sabha, signed by theSecretary-General of the Lok Sabha:"In accordance with the provisions of rule 96 of the Rulesof Procedure and Conduct of Business in Lok Sabha, I am

33Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012directed to enclose the Rajiv Gandhi National Institute ofYouth Development Bill, 2012, as passed by Lok Sabha atits sitting held on the 21 st May, 2012."Sir, I lay a copy of the Bill on the Table.(Ends)SHRI SITARAM YECHURY: This is very strange, Sir. So manyMinisters are absent today.THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P. J. KURIEN): No, no. They havetaken the permission. (Interruptions)REPORT OF DEPARTMENT-RELATED PARLIAMENTARYSTANDING COMMITTEE ON AGRICULTURESHRI MOHD. ALI KHAN (ANDHRA PRADESH): Sir, I lay on the Table,a copy (in English and Hindi) of the Thirty-sixth Report of theDepartment-related Parliamentary Standing Committee on Agricultureon ‘Optimisation of Employment Generation Potential of AnimalHusbandry Sector’ of the Ministry of AgricultureAnimal Husbandry, Dairying and Fisheries).(Department of(Ends)

34Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012REPORT OF DEPARTMENT-RELATED PARLIAMENTARYSTANDING COMMITTEE ON PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GASSHRI SABIR ALI (BIHAR): Sir, I lay on the Table, a copy (in Englishand Hindi) of the Twelfth Report of the Department-relatedParliamentary Standing Committee on Petroleum and Natural Gas(2011-12) on ‘Safety of Oil Installations’ of the Ministry of Petroleumand Natural Gas.(Ends)STATEMENTS OF DEPARTMENT-RELATED PARLIAMENTARYSTANDING COMMITTEE ON FOOD, CONSUMER AFFAIRS ANDPUBLIC DISTRIBUTIONSHRI LALHMING LIANA (MIZORAM): Sir, I lay on the Table, a copyeach (in English and Hindi) of the Statements on Final Action TakenReplies of the Ministry of Consumer Affairs, Food and PublicDistribution on the observations/recommendations contained inChapters I and V of the following Reports of the Department-related

35Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012Parliamentary Standing Committee on Food, Consumer Affairs andPublic Distribution (2009-10):-1. Eleventh Report (Fifteenth Lok Sabha) regarding actiontaken by the Government on the Fourth Report of theCommittee (2009-10) on ‘Demands for Grants (2010-11)’ ofthe Ministry of Consumer Affairs, Food and PublicDistribution (Department of Food and Public Distribution);and2. Fourteenth Report (Fifteenth Lok Sabha)regarding action taken by the Government on the FifthReport of the Committee (2009-10) on ‘Demands for Grants(2010-11)’ of the Ministry of Consumer Affairs, Food andPublic Distribution (Department of Consumer Affairs).(Ends)STATEMENTS OF DEPARTMENT-RELATED PARLIAMENTARYSTANDING COMMITTEE ON RURAL DEVELOPMENTSHRI P. RAJEEVE (KERALA): Sir, I lay on the Table, a copy each (inEnglish and Hindi) of the Statements showing further follow up actionon the recommendations contained in the following Reports of theDepartment-related Parliamentary Standing Committee on RuralDevelopment (2011-12):-

36Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012• Twenty-fifth Action Taken Report (Fourteenth LokSabha) on 'Demands for Grants (2006-07)' of the Ministry ofRural Development (Department of Rural Development);• Twenty-sixth Action Taken Report (Fourteenth LokSabha) on 'Demands for Grants (2006-07)' of the Ministry ofPanchayati Raj; and• Forty-second Action Taken Report (Fourteenth LokSabha) on 'Demands for Grants (2008-09)' of the Ministry ofRural Development (Department of Land Resources).(Ends)STATEMENT RE. IMPLEMENTATION OF ONE HUNDRED ANDFIFTY-THIRD REPORT OF DEPARTMENT-RELATEDPARLIAMENTARY STANDING COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORT,TOURISM AND CULTURETHE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE PRIME MINISTER'S OFFICE(SHRI V. NARAYANASAMY): Sir, I, on behalf of Shri Sultan Ahmed,make a statement regarding status of implementation ofrecommendations contained in the One Hundred and Fifty-thirdReport of the Department-related Parliamentary Standing Committeeon Transport, Tourism and Culture on the Action Taken by theGovernment on the observations/recommendations contained in theOne Hundred and Forty-ninth Report on "Development of Tourism

37Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012Infrastructure and amenities for the Commonwealth Games, 2010"pertaining to the Ministry of Tourism.(Ends)1h/12.20/kgg(fd. by 1h/kgg)THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): Now, Zero Hoursubmissions; Shri Mohammed Adeeb, please.SHRI M. VENKAIAH NAIDU: Sir, please permit me to speak on anurgent point and then you may take up the Zero Hour. (Interruptions)THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): Venkaiahji, I wouldallow you after the Zero Hour mentions.SHRI M. VENKAIAH NAIDU: Sir, I agree that the Zero Hour isimportant. (Interruptions) Sir, I had made a request to you in themorning also. I want you to understand, Sir, that it is a very importantmatter which is before the House. Shri Pranab Mukherjee making aStatement regarding clearance given to Aircel-Maxis is listed in thebusiness also; it is said that it would be taken up before the Houserises. It is such an important issue, it was discussed in the House. Sir,it needs to be given priority because it is such an important issue.

38Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012If taken up as a last item, then he would simply make theStatement and the House is then adjourned! It has become apractice!THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): Let the Ministerrespond to it. Allow the Minister to respond, he is ready to respond.SHRI M. VENKAIAH NAIDU: It is a clever ploy. (Interruptions) Theywant to avoid the issue. (Interruptions)THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARYAFFAIRS (SHRI RAJEEV SHUKLA): Sir, I have discussed with theLeader of the Opposition and the Minister also. He is attending tosome business in Lok Sabha. Before the House rises, he would cometo this House and respond to… (Interruptions)THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): That is okay.(Interruptions) That is enough. Now, Zero Hour. (Interruptions) TheGovernment has given an assurance and that is enough.SHRI M. VENKAIAH NAIDU: They want to avoid the issue.(Interruptions)

39Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): No, please. Venkaiahji,you got an assurance, please take your seat. After you got anassurance, what would you want? (Interruptions)SHRI RAJEEV SHUKLA: What is this? Every time, you defy the ruling.(Interruptions)THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): Mr. Rudy, I have notallowed you. Venkaiahji, you got an assurance; the Government hasresponded. (Interruptions) Venkaiahji, you are a very senior Member.SHRI M. VENKAIAH NAIDU: Sir, if you ask me to sit down, I would sitdown. I do not want to be seen arguing with the Chair. It is not goodfor the Members to disagree with you or quarrel with the Chair. Mypoint is, the Leader of the Opposition... (Interruptions) Sir, what isimportant and what is not important is known to us also. There was anissue which was discussed....THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): You said that it was animportant subject. Hon. Minister has responded to it. That is enough.(Interruptions) Why do you ask me to violate the rules? That is what Iam saying. I said that after the Zero Hour, we can take it up. In anycase, Venkaiahji raised the issue. The hon. Minister responded to it

40Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012and gave an assurance. What else do you want? It should be fine withyou. (Interruptions)I cannot fix the time on my own. I was to take up the Zero Hourmentions. But, a very senior Member, Venkaiahji, wanted to raise apoint before the Zero Hour. Even though it is against the rules, Iallowed it. (Interruptions) He said it was important and nobodyquestioned it. The Government responded and gave an assurancethat the hon. Finance Minister will come and make a Statement beforethe House adjourned. That is fine, nothing more.Shri Mohammed Adeeb now.SHRI M. VENKAIAH NAIDU: Sir, our request is that the FinanceMinister may come soon after lunch hour.THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): If the Government canagree, I have no objection to it. That is for the Government to fix upthe time. You have to see the convenience of the Finance Minister too.How can you expect a Minister to be... (Interruptions)(Followed by tdb/1j)

41Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012TDB-GS/1J/12.25SHRI M. VENKAIAH NAIDU(CONTD.): Who has put it as the lastitem? (Interruptions) You want to avoid the debate. (Interruptions)You want to cover up the entire thing. (Interruptions)THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): Now, we take up theZero Hour. Shri Mohammed Adeeb. (Interruptions) Only what ShriMohammed Adeeb says will go on record. (Interruptions)SHRI M. VENKAIAH NAIDU: ∗THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE PRIME MINISTER’S OFFICE(SHRI V. NARAYANASAMY): The Government is willing to...(Interruptions) What is the problem? (Interruptions)THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): That is not going onrecord. (Interruptions) If the Minister comes, I have no objection; it isup to the Minister. But, remember, you cannot ask a Minister to comeat a particular time. You have to take the convenience of the Ministeralso. He is also a human being. (Interruptions) He cannot just act as∗ Not recorded.

42Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012a machine. Now Shri Mohammed Adeeb, please. (Interruptions)Nothing else will go on record. Yes, Shri Mohammed Adeeb.MATTERS RAISED WITH PERMISSION OF CHAIRNEED TO PROVIDE FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE AND ALSO TO TAKEACTION FOR SOLVING PROBLEMS OF JAWAHARLAL NEHRUMEDICAL COLLEGE OF ALIGARH MUSLIM UNIVERSITYी मोहमद अदीब (उर देश): उपसभाध्यक्ष महोदय, म जीरो ऑवर मजवाहर लाल मेिडकल कालेज, अलीगढ़ के बारे म कु छ बात आपके सामनेरखना चाहता हूं। जवाहर लाल मेिडकल कालेज मुिलम यूिनविर्सटी कामेिडकल कालेज है। जहां लगभग साढ़े 4 से 5 लाख मरीज एक साल म देखेजाते ह और 35,000 से 40,000 लोग एडिमट होते ह और 15,000 के लगभगआपरेशन होते ह। वहां की दुदशार् यह है िक वह अंडर यूजीसी के आता है,जबिक दूसरे मेिडकल कालेज, जैसे राम मनोहर लोिहया अपताल है, यह 600बैड का अपताल है, इसको साढ़े 300 करोड़ रुपये िमलते ह, दूसरा सफदरजंगअपताल, िदली म है, उसम 1200 बैड ह और उसे साढ़े 500 करोड़ रुपयेिमलते ह। अलीगढ़ मुिलम यूिनविर्सटी को िसफर् 2 करोड़ रुपया िमलता है, जहांपर 1150 बैड ह। वषर् 2005 से यह िरक्वेट हो रही है िक यूजीसी या हेथिमिनटर्ी अलीगढ़ मुिलम यूिनविर्सटी का बजट बढ़ाये। वहां पर 2 करोड़ 10लाख रुपये 1200 मरीज के िलए पांच साल से अलोके ट ह। एक मरीज पर 50

43Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012रुपये पर हैड, पर बैड का िहसाब पड़ता है, यानी उस 50 रुपये म मरीज काखाना भी है, दवा भी है, लान्डर्ी भी है और िजतनी मिटनस है, वह सब शािमल है।आज हालत यह है िक अलीगढ़ मुिलम यूिनविर्सटी का मेिडकल कालेज, जोजवाहर लाल मेिडकल कालेज कहलाता है, उसको 2 करोड़ 10 लाख रुपये वषर्2005 से िदए जा रहे ह और कहा यह जा रहा है िक यह यूजीसी की तरफ से है।हेथ िमिनटर्ी एक नया पैसा इस यूिनविर्सटी को, इस मेिडकल कालेज को नहींदे रही है।सर, इसी तरह की दुदर्शा बनारस िहन्दू मेिडकल कालेज की भी है।उसके बारे म मुझे बताया गया है िक वहां भी merely कु छ करोड़ रुपये िदए जातेह। उर देश के दो मेिडकल कालेज, जो इतनी बड़ी संख्या म मरीज कोदेखते ह, वहां पर आपकी तरफ से कोई साधन उपलध नहीं कराये जा रहे ह,वहां पर हेथ िमिनटर्ी कु छ नहीं कर रही है और न यूजीसी उसको पैसा दे रहीहै। मेरी आपसे इस हाऊस के जिरए से दरख्वात है िक इस पर जद से जदकायर्वाही की जाए। ...(समय की घंटी).. . अलीगढ़ मुिलम यूिनविर्सटी वैटनर्यू.पी. के 16 िजल को feed करती है और ईटनर् यू.पी. के िजल को बनारसिहन्दू यूिनविर्सटी मेिडकल कालेज feed करती है।उपसभाध्यक्ष (ो.पी.जे. कु िरयन): तीन िमनट का समय हो गया है, आप बैठजाइए।

سی۔سی۔سی۔یعن44Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012ी मोहमद अदीब : मेरी यह गुजािरश है िक आप फौरन हेथ िमिनटर्ी औरएजुके शन िमिनटर्ी को डायरेक्ट कर िक जो मेिडकल कालेज गरीब के िलएबने ह, उनको पैसा िदया जाए।(समात)جناب محمد اديب ‏(اتر پرديش)‏ : اپ سبھا ادھيکش مہودے،‏ ميں زيرو-آور ميںجواہر الل ميڈيکل کالج،‏ علی گڑھہ کے بارے ميں کچھہ باتيں آپ کے سامنے رکھناچاہتا ہوں۔ جواہر الل ميڈيکل کالج مسلم يونيورسٹی کا ميڈيکل کالج ہے۔ جہاں لگ-‏بھگ ساڑھےسے4 سے5 الکھہ مريض ايک سال ميں ديکھے جاتے ہيں اور000،35000،40لوگ ايڈمٹ ہوتے ہيں اور 000،15 کے لگ بھگ آپريشن ہوتے ہيں۔وہاں کی دردشا يہ ہے کہ وه انڈر يو۔جکالج،‏ جيسے رام منوہر لوہيا اسپتال ہے،‏ يہی۔ کے آتا ہے،‏ جبکہ دوسرے ميڈيکل600 بيڈ کا اسپتال ہے،‏ اس کو ساڑھےتين سو کروڑ روپے ملتے ہيں،‏ جبکہ صفدر جنگ اسپتال،‏ دہلی ميں ہے،‏ اس ميں1200 بيڈ ہيں اور اسے ساڑھے پانچ سو کروڑ روپے ملتے ہيں۔ علی گڑھہ مسلميونيورسٹی کو صرف دو کروڑ ملتا ہے،‏ جہاں پر 1150 بيڈ ہيں۔ ساليہ ريکويسٹ ہو رہی ہے کہ يو۔جسے 2005ی۔ يا ہيلتھہ منسٹری،‏ علی گڑھہ مسلميونيورسٹی کا بجٹ بڑھائے۔ وہاں پر دو کروڑ دس الکھہ روپے،‏1200 مريضوںکے لئے پانچ سال سے ايلوکيٹ ہيں۔ ايک مريض پر 50 روپے پر-ہيڈ،‏ پر-بيڈ کاحساب پڑتا ہے،‏ ي50 اسروپے کا مريض کا کھانا بھی ہے،‏ دوا بھی ہے،‏النڈری بھی ہے اور جتنی مينٹنينس ہے،‏ وه سب شامل ہے۔ آج حالت يہ ہے کہ علیگڑھہ مسلم يونيورسٹی کا ميڈيکل کالج،‏ جو جواہر الل ميڈيکل کالج کہالتا ہے،‏ اسکو دو کروڑ دس الکھہ روپے،‏ سال 2005 سے دئے جا رہے ہيں اور کہا يہ جا رہاہے کہ يہ يو۔جی۔ کی طرف سے ہے۔ ہيلتھہ منسٹری کا ايک نيا پيسہ اسيونيورسٹی کو،‏ اس ميڈيکل کالج کو نہيں دے رہی ہے۔

سی۔45Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012سر،‏ اسی طرح کی دردشا بنارس ہندو ميڈيکل کالج کی بھی ہے۔ اس کےبارے ميں مجھے بتايا گيا ہے کہ وہاں بھیmerelyکچھہ کروڑ روپے دئے جاتےہيں۔ اتر پرديش کے دو ميڈيکل کالج،‏ جو اتنی بڑی تعداد ميں مريضوں کو ديکھتےہيں،‏ وہان پر آپ کی طرف سے کوئی سادھن اپلبدّھہ نہيں کرائے جا رہے ہيں،‏ وہاںپر ہيلتھہ منسٹری کچھہ نہيں کر رہی ہے اور نہ يو۔جی۔ اس کو پيسہ دے رہیہے۔ ميری آپ سے اس ہاؤس کے ذريعے سے دوخواست ہے کہ اس پر جلد سےجلد کاروائی کی جائے ۔۔۔(وقت کی گھنٹی)۔۔۔ علی گڑھہ مسلم يونيورسٹی ويسٹرنيو۔پی۔ کے 16 ضلعوں کوfeedکرتی ہے اور ايسٹرن يو۔پی۔ کے ضلعوں کوبنارس ہندو يونيورسٹی ميڈيکل کالج feedکرتی ہے۔اپ سبھا ادھيکش ‏(پروفيسر پی۔جے۔کورئين):‏ تين منٹ کا سمے ہو گيا ہے،‏ آپبيٹھہ جائيے۔جناب محمد اديب:ميری يہ گزارش ہے کہ آپ فورا ہی ہيلتھہ منسٹری اورايجوکيشن منسٹری کو ڈائريکٹ کريں کہ جو ميڈيکل کالج غريبوں کے لئے بنےہيں،‏ ان کو پيسہ ديا جائے۔‏(ختم شد)‏THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): Names of all thosehon. Members who associate with this issue may kindly be noted.(Interruptions) Now, Shri Vijay Jawaharlal Darda. (Interruptions)ी रामिवलास पासवान (िबहार): उपसभाध्यक्ष महोदय, मने भी इस िवषय परनोिटस िदया है। यह बहुत गंभीर मामला है। आप एक जगह पर 400 करोड़

46Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012रुपया देते ह और दूसरी जगह पर कु छ भी नहीं देते ह। म इससे अपने आपकोसब करता हूं।ी राम कृ पाल यादव (िबहार): उपसभाध्यक्ष महोदय, म इस िवषय से अपनेआपको सब करता हूं।ी कान िंसह सोलंकी (मध्य देश): उपसभाध्यक्ष महोदय, म इस िवषय सेअपने आपको सब करता हूं।ो. एस.पी. िंसह बघेल (उर देश): उपसभाध्यक्ष महोदय, म इस िवषय सेअपने आपको सब करता हूं।SHRI D. RAJA (TAMIL NADU): Sir, I associate myself with this issue.SHRI DEVENDER GOUD T. (ANDHRA PRADESH): Sir, I alsoassociate myself with this subject.SHRI KUMAR DEEPAK DAS (ASSAM): Sir, I also associate myselfwith this issue.(Ends)CONCERN OVER KILLING OF TIGERS IN VIDARBHA REGIONAND MADHYA PRADESHी िवजय जवाहरलाल दडार् (महाराटर्): माननीय उपसभाध्यक्ष महोदय, एकमहत्वपूणर् िवषय की ओर म सदन का और सरकार का ध्यान आकिर्षत करना

47Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012चाहता हूं। यह अत्यंत दुख का िवषय है िक हमारे देश म संरक्षण ात बाघ कोलगातार िशकार बनाया जा रहा है तथा िपछले 8 िदन के अंदर कम से कम 10बाघ को बड़ी ही िनदर्यता के साथ मारा गया है। िवदभर् के ताड़ोबा वन पिरक्षेतर् मएक बाघ का शव िमला है। िशकारी उसके चार पंजे तथा चेहरा काटकर अपनेसाथ ले गये तथा उसके अन्य अंग को क्षत-िवक्षत अवथा म काटकर फ क िदयागया है। इस बाघ के 8 से 10 टुकडे़ िकए गए, इसकी गदर्न कहीं िमली है औरपूंछ कहीं िमली है।उपसभाध्यक्ष महोदय, कटनी, मध्य देश बाघ की तकरी का मुखके न्दर् बन चुका है। अंतरार्टर्ीय तकर ने मेलघाट, पच और ताड़ोबा बाघ संरक्षणक्षेतर् म 25 बाघ के िशकार की सुपारी दी है।(ASC/1K पर जारी)ASC-KLS/1K/12.30ी िवजय जवाहरलाल दडार् (कर्मागत) : इससे वन िवभाग के लोग म अफरा-तफरी मची हुई है। मेरा सरकार से अनुरोध है िक ताड़ोबा अंधारी वन क्षेतर् सेलेकर तमाम वन क्षेतर् म, जहां िपछले कु छ िदन से बाध का िशकार हुआ है,वहां पर चौकसी बढ़ाई जाए। इसके साथ ही उ घटनाओं की जांच करकेअपरािधय और तकर पर शीघर् कायर्वाही की जाए।एक और िंचता की बात है िक देश का एक ितहाई वन संरिक्षत एिरयानक्सली कजे म है, जहां वन िवभाग के कमर्चारी और अिधकारी नहीं जा सकते

48Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012ह। मेरा अनुरोध है िक सरकार इन क्षेतर् के संरक्षण के िलए आवयक कायर्वाहीकरे। आप जानते ह िक टाइगर ोजेक्ट पर धान मंतर्ी जी ने वयं ध्यान िदया हैऔर इसके िलए एक बड़ा बजट भी बनाया है। इसके बावजूद भी आज वन केअंदर इस कार से िशकार का काम हो रहा है। म अपने साथ अखबार भी लायाहूं यिद आप देखना चाह तो म िदखा सकता हूं। म समझता हूं िक सरकार कोइस ओर ध्यान देना चािहए और साथ ही साथ इसके िलए नई टेक्नीक का योगकरना चािहए। आज इस नई टेक्नीक का योग न होने कारण, जो हमाराकोरीडोर है, उसकी िमली-भगत से यह तकरी का काम हो रहा है। मुझेिववास है िक सरकार इस ओर अिधक से अिधक ध्यान देकर, बाध की हत्याको रोकने का काम करेगी।(समात)ीमती माया िंसह (मध्य देश) : सर, माननीय सदय ने जो िवषय उठाया है,म अपने को इससे सब करती हूं।ी ओम काश माथुर (राजथान) : सर, माननीय सदय ने जो िवषय उठायाहै, म अपने को इससे सब करता हूं।डा. नज़मा ए. हेपतुा (मध्य देश) : : सर, माननीय सदय ने जो िवषयउठाया है, म अपने को इससे सब करती हूं।SHRI SHANTARAM NAIK (GOA): Sir, I associate myself with the issueraised by the hon. Member.

49Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012DR. CHANDAN MITRA (MADHYA PRADESH): Sir, I associate myselfwith the issue raised by the hon. Member.SHRI RAJIV PRATAP RUDY (BIHAR): Sir, I associate myself with theissue raised by the hon. Member.SHRI RAMA CHANDRA KHUNTIA (ODISHA): Sir, I associate myselfwith the issue raised by the hon. Member.DR. M.S. GILL (PUNJAB): Sir, I associate myself with the issue raisedby the hon. Member.SOME HON. MEMBERS: We also associate ourselves with the issueraised by the hon. Member.(Ends)RAPE OF A DALIT STUDENT IN BHAGAT PHOOL SINGH WOMEN'SUNIVERSITY IN HARYANA.ी रणवीर िंसह जापित (हिरयाणा) : सर, हिरयाणा मभगत फू ल िंसहमहािवालय म 16 मई को एक दिलत छातर्ा ियंका का िवविवालय के मुख्यार के बाहर अपहरण करके उसको चार युवक कॉरिपयो गाड़ी म ले गए।पीिड़त दिलत छातर्ा, िदली के नरेला के पास गांव होलंबी िनवासीिवविवालय म एलएलबी थम वषर् म पढ़ती है। वह िवविवालय के हॉटलनंबर 14 म रहती है।

50Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012युवक छातर्ा का अपहरण करके , खेत म ले गए और वहां युवक ने छातर्ाका बारी-बारी से यौन शोषण िकया। इसके बाद युवक बलात्कार की िशकार हुईइस छातर्ा को िवविवालय के बाहर फ क कर चले गए। छातर्ा बदहवास थी।आरोपी युवक ने छातर्ा को जान से मारने की धमकी दी, िजसके कारण वह बुरीतरह से आतंिकत थी।ये आरोपी छातर् अगले िदन िफर िवविवालय केहॉटल आए और पीिड़त दिलत छातर्ा को धमकी देकर चले गए। दुराचार कीिशकार दिलत छातर्ा ने जब साहस करके मामले की िशकायत िवविवालयशासन से की, तो उन्हने उसकी इज्जत का हवाला देकर, चुप रहने के िलएकहा और मामले को दबाने का यास िकया। जब अन्य छातर्ाओं को शासन केइस रवैये की भनक लगी, तो वे आकर्ोिषत हो गईं और रिजटर्ार कायार्लय केबाहर धरना िदया। छातर्ाओं के दबाव के चलते अगले िदन सायंकाल पुिलस नेतीन युवक, खानपुर कलां िनवासी अिमत कु मार व जयपाल, मुढलाना िनवासीभूपन्दर् िंसह के िखलाफ दुराचार का मामला दजर् िकया और िगरतार करके ,पांच िदन का िरमांड िलया। इसके बाद 18 मई से छातर्ाएं सड़क पर आ गईऔर िवविवालय के बाहर सड़क को जाम कर िदया। इसके बावजूद सरकारका एक भी एम.एल.ए. या मंतर्ी उनकी बात सुनने के िलए मौके पर नहीं गया।ईनेलो के डबवाली से िवधायक डा. अजय िंसह चोटाला ने मौके पर जाकरमामले की जानकारी ली तथा ैस के माध्यम से मामले को उठाया। इससे पहलेभी िवविवालय की तीन छातर्ाओं ने आत्महत्या कर ली, परन्तु कोई जांच नहीं

51Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012की गई। 1 फरवरी, 2012 को एम.ए. की छातर्ा ममता, पुतर्ी आनन्द ने पंखे सेलटक कर फांसी लगा ली। वह हॉटल नंबर 14 म रहती थी। 2 माचर्, 2012 कोहॉटल नबर 5 म रहने वाली राक्षी ने पंखे से लटक कर अपनी जान दे दी।3 माचर्, 2012 को 10+2 के हॉटल नंबर 9,10 म रहने वाली छातर्ा आरजू, पुतर्ीसतीश ने भी फांसी लगाकर आत्महत्या कर ली। ...(समय की घंटी)..आरजूमेरठ िजले के गांव .....उपसभाध्यक्ष (ो.पी.जे.कु िरयन) : टाइम ओवर। टाइम ओवर लीज़।(यवधान)..आप बैिठए। टाइम ओवर। (यवधान)..Not going on record.(यवधान).. जापित जी, िरकाडर् म नहीं जा रहा है, िफर आप क्य बोल रहेह?ी रणवीर िंसह जापित : ∗(समात)(LP/1l पर जारी)USY/LP/1L/12.35उपसभाध्यक्ष (ो. पी.जे.कु िरयन) : सुिनए, Nothing goes on record afterthree minutes. (Interruptions) यह िरकॉडर् म नहीं जा रहा है, इसिलएबोलने से कोई फायदा नहीं है, आप बैठ जाइए..(यवधान).. Don't wastetime. (Interruptions)∗ Not recorded.

52Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012ी अवतार िंसह करीमपुरी (उर देश) : उपसभाध्यक्ष जी, म वयं को इससेसब करता हूं।(समात)REPORTED REMARKS BY ARBITRATION TRIBUNAL, LONDON,QUESTIONING SOVEREIGNTY OF INDIAN JUDICIAL SYSTEMSHRI P. RAJEEVE (KERALA):Mr. Vice-Chairman, Sir, theInternational Arbitration Tribunal, London, recently, gave an order infavour of White Industries Australia Limited (WIAL) and against theGovernment of India.The Arbitration Tribunal criticized the IndianSupreme Court, in particular, and the Indian judicial system, ingeneral, and made the Government of India liable to compensate forthe lapse on the part of our Judiciary. The WIAL had entered into acommercial contract with the State-owned Coal India Limited. But,subsequently, a dispute arose between the two and both the partiesapproached the Supreme Court of India. Meanwhile, the WIALapproached the United Nations Arbitration Tribunal.Then, anArbitration Tribunal was constituted, which consisted of one member,nominated by the Government of India, one member, nominated bythe Government of Australia, and the Chairman was selected as per

53Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012the consensus. This Tribunal gave a unanimous order against theGovernment of India. It is very shocking that an investor can sue theGovernment of India, as per the bilateral treaty. The Government ofIndia has entered into more than eighty bilateral treaties. TheExecutive has done all these things. There is no provision for any typeof scrutiny. Any investor can sue the Government of India.Sir, I quote from the orders of the Tribunal, "The Tribunal has nodifficulty in concluding the Indian judicial system's inability to deal withWhite's jurisdictional claim in over nine years, and the SupremeCourt's inability to hear White's jurisdictional appeal for over five yearsamounts to undue delay and constitutes a breach of India's voluntarilyassumed obligations as per the bilateral treaty and is liable forcompensation." This is an attack on the sovereignty of the IndianJudiciary. The judicial functioning is one of the major sovereignfunctions of a State. Therefore, it is an attack on the sovereignty ofthe country. The Government is not ready to make any publicstatement on this issue. The Government is not ready to take anyaction on the member, nominated by the Government of India, in theArbitration Tribunal. The independence of Judiciary is a basic feature

54Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012of the Indian Constitution. The concept of 'independent judiciary',according to the Supreme Court of India, is a noble concept thatinspires the constitutional scheme and constitute the foundation onwhich the edifice of the Indian democratic polity rests. Therefore,entering into such a treaty, whether domestic or international, wouldaffect the independence of the Judiciary. This is a very serious issue.I urge upon the Government to revisit all the bilateral treaties.(Ends)SHRI TAPAN KUMAR SEN (WEST BENGAL): Sir, I associate withwhat the hon. Member, Shri P. Rajeeve, has said. I also demand aninquiry into all the treaties entered into by the Government, whetherdomestic of international,...(Interruptions)THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN):Okay; okay. Now,Shri Basawaraj Patil.RAIL ACCIDENT OF HAMPI EXPRESS AT PENNECONDAी बसावाराज पािटल (कणार्टक) : उपसभाध्यक्ष जी, म आपके माध्यम से सदनका ध्यान आकिर्षत करना चाहता हूं िक आज अित ात: काल 3.45 बजे हुबलीसे बगलुरू जाने वाली हपी एक्सेस पेनुगुंडा नाम के रेलवे टेशन के पास एकमालगाड़ी से टकरा गई। वह टर्ेन, िजसम रात म पैसजर सोए हुए थे, आग की

55Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012भी म जल गई है। उसके बाद से लगातार समाचार आ रहे ह िक दो लोग मरे,चार लोग मरे, आठ लोग मरे, सोलह लोग मरे एवं इनकी संख्या बढ़ती ही जारही है। वहाँ के िंहदपुर, अनंतपुर और पेनुगुंडा के अलग-अलग अपताल म उनलोग को भतीर् कराया गया है। कणार्टक देश के , िवशेषकर हुबली और बेलारीके यातर्ी बड़ी मातर्ा म उस गाड़ी म चढ़ते ह। इधर दो-चार महीने के अंदर यहएक बहुत बड़ी रेलवे दुघर्टना है।(1m/akg पर जारी)PB-AKG/1m/12.40ी बसावाराज पािटल (कर्मागत) : इस सदन के ारा म सरकार का ध्यान इसओर आकिर्षत करना चाहता हूँ िक वहाँ पर क्या वातिवक घटना घटी है,िकतने लोग घायल हुए ह, वहाँ वतुिथित क्या है, मरने वाल की संख्या क्याहै, अगर सरकार सदन को इनके बारे म एक वातिवक आँकड़ा सदन समातहोने से पहले दे, तो यह सबसे अच्छा होगा।साथ ही साथ, म सरकार से और आप सब लोग से यह अपील करता हूँिक वहाँ इस कार की जो एक भयानक दुघर्टना घटी, िजसम लोग सोए-सोएमर गए, ऐसी िथित का िनमार्ण हुआ है, उनके ित संवेदना य कर। म यहमाँग करता हूँ िक इसकी ठीक से एक इन्क्वायरी होनी चािहए और इसके पीछेजो अपराधी ह, उनके ऊपर कानूनी कारर्वाई की जाए। साथ ही, सरकार इस

56Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012िवशेष घटना को ध्यान म रख कर उन लोग को उपयु मुआवजा देने की कृ पाकरे।इस कार की िवनती करते हुए म एक बार िफर आगर्ह करता हूँ िकसरकार इसके बारे म तुरंत सदन के अन्दर आज सदन समात होने से पहलेठीक-ठीक जानकारी दे। इसके बारे म सरकार ने क्या-क्या कदम उठाए ह,उनको क्या-क्या मुआवजा दे रही है और अभी िकतने लोग की हालत गभीर है,वह यह सारी जानकारी सदन को दे, म आपके ारा यह याचना करता हूँ।धन्यवाद।(समात)ी ओम काश माथुर : सर, यहाँ रेल राज्य मंतर्ी जी ह, वे इसका जवाब द।SHRI M. VENKAIAH NAIDU (KARNATAKA): Sir, while associatingmyself with it, I want to make one request. Sir, the accident hashappened during the Session of Parliament. It is a serious matter. Irequest the Government to come forward and make a statementbefore the House rises today. The Minister of Parliamentary Affairs ishere.THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): The Minister of Statefor Railways is here. What do you say? ...(Interruptions)...

57Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012SHRI DEVENDER GOUD T. (ANDHRA PRADESH): Sir, 22 peoplehave already died and about 70 people are seriously injured....(Interruptions)...THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): Wait. Wait. TheMinister wants to respond. ...(Interruptions)... I will call you.THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRIBHARATSINH SOLANKI): With your permission, Sir, ...THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN):Oh. You have astatement.SHRI BHARATSINH SOLANKI: Yes, Sir.THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): Okay. Let me disposeof three-four Zero Hour Mentions and then I will allow you. I didn’tknow it. After these Zero Hour Mentions, you can make it. Yes, ShriPrasanta Chatterjee.REGULAR MAINTENANCE OF AIRPORTSSHRI PRASANTA CHATTERJEE (WEST BENGAL): Sir, I draw theattention of this august House to a recent incident when a majoraccident was somehow averted by a Pilot of Jet Airways while landingat Netaji Subhash Bose Airport, Kolkata. It is reported that the pilot

58Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012found a big hole on the same runway where the plane was supposedto land. So, he flew over the airport for half-an-hour till he wasallowed to land on a safe place, and, thus, owing to cautiousness ofthe Pilot, a major accident could be avoided.Incidentally, I recall the horrific air crash of Mangalore that tookplace on this day in 2010 when the Air India Express flight from Dubaito Mangalore overshot the runway, leading instant death of 158 out of176 passengers who were on board. Though this accident took placeon 22 ndMay, 2010, the families of ill-fated cabin crews are yet toreceive compensation declared by the then Minister of Civil Aviation.While paying my heartfelt homage to those unfortunatepassengers, Pilot and crews, I urge upon the Minister of Civil Aviationto keep a vigil on the maintenance works of runways by the AirportAuthorities in all the airports to ensure safe take-off and landing.(Ends)DR. BARUN MUKHERJI (WEST BENGAL): Sir, I associate myselfwith it.MURDER OF SHRI S.P. MAHANTESH, A WHISTLE BLOWER

59Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012SHRI K.N. BALAGOPAL (KERALA): Sir, my Zero Hour Mention isrelated to the murder of a whistleblower in Bangalore day-beforeyesterday.Sir, on Sunday morning, in Bangalore city, Shri S.P.Mahantesh, an auditor and whistleblower on irregular land allotmentsin the State died due to the heinous attack by some unknowncriminals.Known as an honest officer in a Department subjected toallegations of corruption and land scams, Mahantesh, a KarnatakaAdministrative Service Officer and Deputy Director of CooperativeAudit, was a crucial source for some of the stories that thenewspapers published in recent months on irregularities in HousingSocieties.He facilitated the release of a copy of the audit report of thecontroversial BEML Employees Cooperative Society, which is accusedof making improper land allotment to several influential persons.(Followed by 1n/SKC)1n/12.45/skc

60Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): You cannot makeallegations. Don’t make any allegation. Otherwise, I will have to get itremoved from the records. I am cautioning you.SHRI K.N. BALAGOPAL: Sir, I am not making any allegation. I amnot naming anyone.THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): I am only cautioningyou.SHRI K.N. BALAGOPAL: Sir, I am only referring to the BEML andTatra issues. The issue of land allotment by BEML came up in a bigway in connection with the Tatra issue, which we discussed recently.Sir, the murder of RTI activists and whistleblowers is a regularphenomenon in our country. More than a dozen activists weremurdered in the last one year. We have pathetically failed to protectthem. The State Governments have also failed to protect thewhistleblowers. But, Sir, the matter of Shri S.P. Mahantesh isdifferent. He had raised an issue which is being discussed in thecountry very seriously, and which is related to the issues of Tatratrucks, BEML, and related matters. When such a murder has takenplace, I think it is the responsibility of the Central Government to prove

61Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012that the murder by some mafia or goons is not related to someallegations which came up earlier in connection with the Tatra andBEML issues.Therefore, Sir, I urge upon the Government to make very seriousefforts and take steps to inquire into the matter and book the culprits.(Ends)SHRI PRASANTA CHATTERJEE (WEST BENGAL): Sir, I associatemyself with the matter raised by the hon. Member.SHRI D. RAJA (TAMIL NADU): Sir, I too associate myself with thematter raised by the hon. Member.SHRI DEVENDER GOUD T. (ANDHRA PRADESH): Sir, I tooassociate myself with the matter raised by the hon. Member.SHRI TAPAN KUMAR SEN (WEST BENGAL): Sir, I too associatemyself with the matter raised by the hon. Member.SHRI P. RAJEEVE (KERALA): Sir, I too associate myself with thematter raised by the hon. Member.SHRIMATI JHARNA DAS BAIDYA (TRIPURA): Sir, I too associatemyself with the matter raised by the hon. Member.

62Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012DR. BARUN MUKHERJI (WEST BENGAL): Sir, I too associate myselfwith the matter raised by the hon. Member.(Ends)CANCELLATION OF AIR INDIA EXPRESS FLIGHTSORIGINATING FROM KERALASHRI M.P. ACHUTHAN (KERALA): Sir, the strike by a section of AirIndia pilots has entered the fifteenth day. Till now, the Government ofIndia has not taken serious and bold initiatives to end the deadlock.Most of the international flights have been cancelled. Even in thedomestic sector, the services of many flights have been cancelled.Sir, one of the victims of these cancellations of internationalflights are the Keralites in Gulf countries. Majority of the Air IndiaExpress service to Gulf countries from Trivandrum, Cochin andKozhikode have been cancelled. The people living in the Gulfcountries have to come back for vacations, and in Kerala, we are

63Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012going to have the academic year re-started in the first week of June.Many people who have gone, with their families, to the Gulf countriesare not able to come back.Sir, due to the non-availability of flights, many people have lostjobs because they were not able to report for duty on the allotteddate. And, exploiting this grave situation, the private airlines aresqueezing people; they have doubled and trebled their fares on flightsto the Gulf countries.Therefore, I would request the Government of India and theMinistry of Civil Aviation to take some bold initiatives for makingalternative arrangements to help people in the Gulf countries to returnto Kerala. Every day, we hear that the Civil Aviation Ministry wouldtake some action, but no tangible results have been seen till today. Itis a very urgent matter. The Government must take note of it and takeaction.(Ends)SHRI P. RAJEEVE (KERALA): Sir, I associate myself with the matterraised by the hon. Member.

64Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012SHRI K.N. BALAGOPAL (KERALA): Sir, I too associate myself withthe matter raised by the hon. Member.SHRI PRASANTA CHATTERJEE (WEST BENGAL): Sir, I tooassociate myself with the matter raised by the hon. Member.SHRI D. RAJA (TAMIL NADU): Sir, I too associate myself with thematter raised by the hon. Member. (Interruptions)SHRI RAJIV PRATAP RUDY: Sir, it is a very serious matter. TheGovernment will have to...(Interruptions)...THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): Yes; it is a very seriousmatter. It was already...(Interruptions) It is a very serious matter.(Interruptions)SHRI RAJIV PRATAP RUDY: Sir, the Minister is here. Lethim...(Interruptions)THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): Only the formerMinister is here! (Interruptions) Do you want the former Minister toreply? (Interruptions)SHRI RAJIV PRATAP RUDY: Sir, it is their responsibility to see toit...(Interruptions) The Minister should reply. (Interruptions)SHRI D. RAJA: Sir, the Minister is here. (Interruptions)

65Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012SHRI TAPAN KUMAR SEN: Sir, action must be taken against thosewho provoked the strike. ..(Interruptions)... No accountability hasbeen fixed on them. (Interruptions)SHRI RAJIV PRATAP RUDY: Sir, the Minister must reply.(Interruptions)SHIR RAVI SHANKAR PRASAD: Sir, the passengers are suffering.(Interruptions)SHRI TAPAN KUMAR SEN: That conflict is seen in the intention ofthe Government who want to hand it over to..(Interruptions)...SHIR RAVI SHANKAR PRASAD: It is a very serious matter.SHRI TAPAN KUMAR SEN: For how long can this go on?(Interruptions)SHRI D. RAJA:Sir, please ask the Minister to respond.(Interruptions)SHRI RAJIV PRATAP RUDY: Sir, I have a point of order.THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): What is it about?SHRI RAJIV PRATAP RUDY: It is about the business of the House.(contd. at 1o/hk)HK/PSV/1o/12.50

66Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012SHRI RAJIV PRATAP RUDY (CONTD.): Sir, on one side theGovernment is not coming for a debate and the Minister does not evenhave a responsibility to come to Rajya Sabha and make a statementon the state of affairs of Air India. Is this the respect to the House?Strike is going on all throughout the Session. ...(Interruptions)...THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): This is a statement, nota point of order. ...(Interruptions)...SHRI RAJIV PRATAP RUDY: Doesn't the Government have aresponsibility to come and make a statement in the House?...(Interruptions)... Is this the respect to the House?...(Interruptions)... You are not having a debate on civil aviation....(Interruptions)... You are not coming out with a statement....(Interruptions)... What is this? ...(Interruptions)...SHRI TAPAN KUMAR SEN: How can you continue like that?...(Interruptions)...THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): You expressed yourviews....(Interruptions)... Now, you take your seat....(Interruptions)... Now, take your seat. ...(Interruptions)...

67Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012SHRI TAPAN KUMAR SEN: How can you continue like that?...(Interruptions)...THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): You expressed yourviews....(Interruptions)... Now, you take your seat....(Interruptions)... Now, please take your seat. ...(Interruptions)...Let me continue. ...(Interruptions)... Let me proceed....(Interruptions)... Civil Aviation Minister is not here....(Interruptions)...SHRI P. RAJEEVE: Shri Vayalar Ravi is sitting here....(Interruptions)... He is the former Minister. ...(Interruptions)...Ask him to respond. ...(Interruptions)...THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): You made yourpoint....(Interruptions)...SHRI PRASANTA CHATTERJEE: Sir, ask the Government torespond. ...(Interruptions)...SHRI TAPAN KUMAR SEN: How can it continue like that?...(Interruptions)... Is there any Government? ...(Interruptions)...SHRI RAVI SHANKAR PRASAD: Sir, we are on a larger issue....(Interruptions)... See the plight of passengers at Delhi Airport, at

68Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012Mumbai, at Dubai, at London, at New York. ...(Interruptions)...There is no response from the Parliament. ...(Interruptions)... It is aserious issue. ...(Interruptions)...उपसभाध्यक्ष (ो. पी.जे. कु िरयन): Now, please sit down....(Interruptions)... आप बैिठए, लीज़। ...(यवधान)... रिव शंकर जी,आप बैिठए। ...(यवधान)... तपन जी, आप बैिठए। ...(यवधान)... अब आपबैिठए। ...(यवधान)... अब आप बैठ जाइए। ...(यवधान)... You madeyour point. ...(Interruptions)... Now, let me proceed with the ZeroHour. ...(Interruptions)... Let me proceed with the Zero Hour....(Interruptions)... You made your point. ...(Interruptions)...SHRI RAJIV PRATAP RUDY: Sir, there is no response from theGovernment. ...(Interruptions)... We want a response from theGovernment. ...(Interruptions)...THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): I cannot direct theGovernment; you know the rule....(Interruptions)...SHRI TAPAN KUMAR SEN: We are really concerned with this issue...(Interruptions)...THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): I cannot direct theGovernment....(Interruptions)... It is up to the Government.

69Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012...(Interruptions)... What can I do? ...(Interruptions)... What can Ido? ...(Interruptions)...SHRI RAVI SHANKAR PRASAD: Sir, the Government should make astatement today. ...(Interruptions)...SHRI RAJIV PRATAP RUDY: Sir, there are occasions when the Chairdirects...(Interruptions)...THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): I will be forced toadjourn if you don't allow me to proceed. ...(Interruptions)... Youhave made your point. ...(Interruptions)... The Chair also acceptsthat this is a serious matter. ...(Interruptions)... But it is for theGovernment to respond, if they want. ...(Interruptions)... It is not inmy hands. ...(Interruptions)... BAC was there. ...(Interruptions)...You could have raised it there. ...(Interruptions)... It is not in myhands. ...(Interruptions)... What is to be discussed has beendecided by the BAC. ...(Interruptions)... Let the Minster respond....(Interruptions)...THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARYAFFAIRS (SHRI RAJEEV SHUKLA): Sir, in the Business Paper of

70Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012today, there is a debate slotted for the Ministry of Civil Aviation....(Interruptions)...THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): Mr. Rudy, I don't allowyou. ...(Interruptions)...SHRI RAJIV PRATAP RUDY: ∗ी राजीव शु: रूडी जी, आप मुझे बोलने दो। ...(यवधान)... आप बहुत बोलरहे हो। ...(यवधान)... हम भी वैसा बोल सकते थे, जैसे आप बोल रहे हो।...(यवधान)... आपको Deputy Leader बनना है, बन जाओ ...(यवधान)...लेिकन, हाउस को िडटबर् मत करो। ...(यवधान)... आप अपनी पॉिलिटक्सके चक्कर म बहुत बोलते हो। ...(यवधान)...THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): Only what the Ministersays will go on record. ...(Interruptions)...SHRI RAJIV PRATAP RUDY: ∗THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): Please allow theMinister. ...(Interruptions)...∗ Not recorded.∗ Not recorded.

71Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012ी राजीव शु: पहले आप मेरी बात सुिनए ...(यवधान)... आपको जो बननाहो, बनो ...(यवधान)... लेिकन, हाउस को िडटबर् मत करो।...(यवधान)...THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): Please allow theMinister. ...(Interruptions)... Mr. Rudy, please take your seat....(Interruptions)... Please, listen to the Minister. ...(Interruptions)...ी राजीव शु: सर, लंच के बाद Minister of Civil Aviation यहाँ हगे। उससमय आप अपनी बात उनसे कह सकते ह और पूछ भी सकते ह।...(यवधान)...THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): Okay. Minister iscoming. ...(Interruptions)... Now, Shri Prabhat Jha....(Interruptions)...(1पी/वी.एन.के . पर आगे)GSP-VNK-12.55-1PSCARCITY OF WATER RESOURCES ANDDEPLETING WATER LEVEL IN THE COUNTRYी भात झा (मध्य देश): उपसभाध्यक्ष महोदय, म िजस मसले को उठा रहाहूँ, वह पानी का मसला है। देश की सारी निदयां सूख रही है और राजधानी म हीनहीं, बिक भारत के 18 राज्य और 218 िजल म भू-जल तर बहुत नीचे िगर

72Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012रहा है। इस साल यमुना नदी समय से पहले सूख गई है। नदी की धार टूटने कासबसे अिधक ितकू ल भाव देश की राजधानी पर पड़ेगा, जहां पेयजल के िलएपूरा हाहाकार मचने वाला है। हिरयाणा म भी भू-जल तर बहुत नीचे चला गयाहै। देश की राजधानी पेयजल के िलए यमुना नदी पर सबसे ज्यादा िनभर्र है।नदी की धार सूख गई, इसिलए िदली को पयार्त पानी नहीं िमल सके गा।इसके साथ ही, उर देश व हिरयाणा म भू-जल के तर म तेजी सेिगरावट हो रही है, िजससे उपजाऊ जमीन म िंसचाई के िलए जल संकटउत्पन्न हो गया है। िंसचाई िवभाग के आंकड़ के मुतािबक यमुना म पेयजलसंकट अैल म शुरू हो गया है, जब िक यह जून, जुलाई के िचलिचलाती गमीर् महोता है और िफर बाद म नदी के वाह म धीमी गित दजर् होती है, लेिकन इसबार तो नदी पूरी तरह से सूख चुकी है। यमुना नदी का सूखना भिवय के िलएअच्छे संके त नहीं ह। यिद अगले तीन-चार महीने म नदी की िथित ऐसी हीरही, तो पानी के िलए सभी जगह हाहाकार मचेगा।राजधानी म पानी की इतनी ज्यादा िकलत और हाहाकार मचने वाली है,लेिकन यहां पर सरकार ारा या सरकार के िकसी महकमे के ारा िकसी भीतरह की कोई यवथा नहीं की जा रही है। यह हम सब के िलए िंचता का िवषयहै।जल संचयन से इसको काफी हद तक कम िकया गया है। सच्चाई यह हैिक अके ले वषार् जल के संरक्षण से ही िदली के 50 फीसदी लोग को जरूरत भर

73Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012का पानी उपलध हो सकता है, जब िक आज भी पूवीर् व पिचमी िदली के कईक्षेतर् म लोग को पानी तक नसीब नहीं होता है। म बताना चाहता हूँ िक के न्दीयभू-जल बोडर् का मानना है िक िदली म भू-जल तर िनरंतर िगर रहा है। बोडर्के मुतािबक यमुना से सटे पूवीर् िदली के कु छ इलाक को छोड़ द, तो िदली केलगभग सभी इलाक म आने वाले िदन म पानी की िकलत होगी, क्यिक हरसाल दो से पांच मीटर तक भू-जल तर िगरता जा रहा है।मने अभी बताया िक देश के 18 राज्य और 286 िजल म िपछले दो दशकके दौरान भू-जल तर चार मीटर िगरा है। देश म अत्यिधक दोहन के कारण भू-जल तर म िगरावट आ रही है। देश भर के इन यवथाओं को देखने के बादअटल जी ने निदय को जोड़ने की बात कही थी, सुीम कोटर् ने भी कहा, उसकेबाद भी इनके कान नहीं खड़े हो रहे ह। देश म जो पानी का संकट आने वाला है,क्या यह सदन की समया नहीं है? क्या यह समया हमारे जीवन की नहीं है?18 राज्य, 286 िजले, लाख-करोड़ लोग पानी के िलए हाहाकार करगे। मसदन से, सरकार से िनवेदन करना चाहता हूँ िक पानी हमारी िजन्दगी है, पानीहमारा जीवन है। पानी के िलए मौत होती ह। एक बाटी पानी के िलए गोलीचल जाती है, लोग दो-दो लोग की हत्या कर देते ह। उसके बाद भी इस मसलेपर भारत की यूपीए सरकार ने िकसी भी तरह का कोई ावधान नहीं िकया है।इसके िलए कोई योजना नहीं है। इसके िलए कोई िनयम-कानून नहीं है। इसकेिलए कोई नीित नहीं है। मुझे लगता है िक यह सदन सहमत होगा िक पानी देश

74Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012की सबसे बड़ी समया है। 2050 म 90 फीसदी लोग को पानी नहीं िमलेगा। इसतरह के भूचाल मचाने वाले आंकड़े आ रहे ह, इसिलए सरकार से िनवेदन है िकवह इस समया का समाधान करे। धन्यवाद।(समात)DR. CHANDAN MITRA (MADHYA PRADESH): Sir, I would like toassociate myself with the issue raised by the hon. Member.ी अिवनाश राय खा (पंजाब): महोदय, म वयं को इस िवषय से संब करताहूँ।ी उपेन्दर् कु शवाहा (िबहार): महोदय, म वयं को इस िवषय से संब करता हूँ।ी नंद कु मार साय (छीसगढ़): महोदय, म वयं को इस िवषय से संबकरता हूँ।(समात)IRREGULARITIES IN APPOINTMENT OFLECTURERS IN MAULANA AZAD URDU UNIVERSITYी तािरक अनवर (महाराटर्): उपसभाध्यक्ष महोदय, म सदन के माध्यम सेभारत सरकार का और इस सदन का ध्यान, खास तौर पर मौलाना आज़ादनेशनल उदू र् यूिनविर्सटी म जो appointments हुई ह, उनम हुई irregularitiesको लेकर लोग म जो असंतोष है, उसके बारे म आकिर्षत करना चाहता हूँ।महोदय, मौलाना आज़ाद नेशनल उदू र् यूिनविर्सटी बनाने के पीछे सरकार का

75Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012यह मकसद था िक उदू र् को फ़रोग़ िदया जाए, उदू र् भाषा को आगे बढ़ाने का कामिकया जाए और उसकी तरक्की के िलए काम िकया जाए, लेिकन, महोदय,आपको जान कर ताज्जुब होगा िक मौलाना आज़ाद नेशनल उदू र् यूिनविर्सटी केअंदर जो appointments हुई ह, उनम ऐसे लोग की िनयुियां हुई ह, जो उदू र्भाषा, उदू र् ज़ुबान नहीं जानते ह। इसको लेकर कई उदू र् संगठन और सोशलऑगनाइजेशन ने एक एहतेजाज िकया है, एक एक्शन कमेटी बनाई है और बार-बार सरकार का ध्यान आकिर्षत करने की कोिशश की है, तािक जद से जदइसम हतक्षेप िकया जाए और इसम जो irregularities हो रही ह, उनको रोकाजा सके ।(1q/MCM पर जारी)-VNK/MCM-SK/1Q/1-00ी तािरक अनवर (कर्मागत) : उपसभाध्यक्ष महोदय, यह मौलाना आज़ादनेशनल उदू र् यूिनविर्सटी इस देश की वािहद उदू र् यूिनविर्सटी है और इसकेबनाने के पीछे जैसा मने कहा, उदू र् को आगे बढ़ाने का मकसद है। लेिकन वहांकी अथॉिरटी या जो एडिमिनटर्ेशन म लोग बैठे हुए ह, ऐसा लगता है िक वे उदू र्िवरोधी ह और लगातार जो बहािलयां वहां हो रही ह, उनम नॉन उदू र् िशक्षकबहाल िकए जा रहे ह और ोफे सल बहाल िकए जा रहे ह। इस मामले को लेकरकु छ लोग हाईकोटर् भी गए थे। हाईकोटर् ने भी इस मामले म कहा है िक जो भीअिनयिमतता बरती गई है, उसको अिवलब दुरुत करने की कोिशश कर। इसकार यूिनविर्सटी का ध्यान इस ओर आकिर्षत िकया है। लेिकन अभी इस बात

76Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012की जानकारी िमली है िक यह िसलिसला अभी भी जारी है और खास तौर से उदू र्नोइंग लोग म इस बात को लेकर काफी असंतोष है। म चाहूंगा ि◌ क इसकोबनाने के पीछे जो मकसद था, उस मकसद को बचाने के िलए आवयक है िकऐसी अिनयिमतताओं को रोका जाए और उदू र् भाषा को बचाने के िलए, उदू र् भाषाकी तरक्की के िलए इस यूिनविर्सटी की जो थापना हुई है, उसका मकसद पूराहो सके । धन्यवाद।डा0 नज़मा ए हेपतुा (मध्य देश) : महोदय, म इसका समथर्न करती हूं।(समात)(समात)THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J.KURIEN): We will now take upthe Bills for Introduction. ..(Interruptions)..SHRI DEVENDER GOUD T.: Sir, the Railway Minister (Interruptions)SHRI P. RAJEEVE: Sir, I have ..(Interruptions)..SHRI M. VENKAIAH NAIDU:Sir, the Railway Minister is here...(Interruptions)..THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J.KURIEN): One second...(Interruptions).. What is this? ..(Interruptions).. I will decide...(Interruptions).. No, please take your seat. ..(Interruptions).. Take

77Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012your seat, please. ..(Interruptions).. If all of you speak like this, whatdo I do? ..(Interruptions)..SHRI TARINI KANTA ROY: Sir, I have given a notice for Zero Hour...(Interruptions)..THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J.KURIEN): If hon. Memberscooperate, everything can be taken up. ..(Interruptions)..SHRI TARINI KANTA ROY: Sir, I have given a notice for Zero Hour...(Interruptions)..THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J.KURIEN): Please...(Interruptions).. बैिठए, बैिठए।......(यवधान)SHRI TARINI KANTA ROY: Sir, I have given a notice for Zero Hour...(Interruptions)..THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J.KURIEN): Did the Minister move?..(Interruptions)..SHRI TARINI KANTA ROY: No, Sir. ..(Interruptions)..THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J.KURIEN): Then? (Interruptions)Please ..(Interruptions).. Please, take your seat. ..(Interruptions)..Special Mentions are there. Nobody has ruled out. They will beallowed. ..(Interruptions)..

78Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012SHRI TARINI KANTA ROY: Sir, I have given a notice for Zero Hour...(Interruptions)..THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J.KURIEN): Zero Hour is over...(Interruptions).. Please take your seat.SHRI TARINI KANTA ROY: Sir, I have given a notice for Zero Hour...(Interruptions)..THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J.KURIEN): It is not allowed today.Take your seat. ..(Interruptions).. It is not admitted...(Interruptions).. Please take your seat. ..(Interruptions).. Now, wealways take Bills for Introduction after the Zero Hour. You know that.Special Mentions will be allowed. Why do you worry? And theMinister’s Statement will also be done. ..(Interruptions).. Please...(Interruptions).. You are not to decide how the House shouldconduct business. It is for me to decide. Now, you see, ‘Bills forIntroduction’ is always taken up after Zero Hour. This is theprocedure. Let me go by that. If, you have any objection, I will allowyou to speak. Where is the problem?SHRI P. RAJEEVE: Sir, my notice is under rule 67. ..(Interruptions)..

79Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J.KURIEN): That is there. I willallow you. ..(Interruptions)..ी पुरूषोम खोडाभाई रूपाला : सर, आपने रेल मंतर्ी के टेटमट के िलए कहाथा।......(यवधान)THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J.KURIEN): No please, I am notallowing you. ..(Interruptions)..ी पुरूषोम खोडाभाई रूपाला : सर,......(यवधान)DR. NAJMA A. HEPTULLA:Sir, take the sense of the House...(Interruptions)..THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J.KURIEN): Yes, I can allow thatalso. Today is the last day. ..(Interruptions).. We will sit andintroduce the Bills. After Introduction and Special Mentions, we canadjourn for the lunch. ..(Interruptions)..SHRI P. RAJEEVE: Sir, my objection is that ..(Interruptions)..THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J.KURIEN): Yes, Mr. P. Rajeeve,please. ..(Interruptions)..ी पुरूषोम खोडाभाई रूपाला : सर, माननीय मंतर्ी जी हाऊस मह।........(यवधान)

80Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J.KURIEN): Rupala ji, why are wenot able to take up the Special Mentions? Why are we not able toallow the Minister? ..(Interruptions)..(Contd. by ysr-1R)-SK/YSR/1.05/1RTHE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN) (CONTD.): Becausethe time is wasted. I am giving a ruling. Please don’t waste the time.Let us introduce the Bill. After its introduction, I will allow theStatement. But there is an objection. After that, I will allow this andthe statement also. Please cooperate. Now, there is an objectionfrom Shri P. Rajeeve.BILL INTRODUCEDTHE RANI LAKSHMI BAI CENTRAL AGRICULTURAL UNIVERSITYBILL, 2012THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI SHARAD PAWAR): Sir, Ibeg to move for leave to introduce a Bill further to provide for theestablishment and incorporation of a University for the Bundelkhandregion for the development of agriculture and for the furtherance of theadvancement of learning and prosecution of research in agricultureand allied sciences in that region.

81Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012The question was proposed.SHRI P. RAJEEVE (KERALA): Sir, I gave a notice objecting to itsintroduction under Rule 67.THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): You can object to itsintroduction only on legislative competence.SHRI P. RAJEEVE: Sir, I have questioned the legislative competenceof Parliament. On 28 th December 2011, the Minister tried to introducethe Bill. At that time, I had made some serious objection to it onlegislative competence of Parliament to make laws for incorporating auniversity.Sir, the Seventh Schedule, entry 44, List I – Union List,specifically states, “Incorporation, regulation and winding up ofcorporations, whether trading or not, with objects not confined to one State, butnot including universities.”THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): Please be brief.SHRI P. RAJEEVE: Sir, I question the legislative competence of Parliament. Irequest the Chair to allow a full debate on it as per the Rule. As per Rule 67, if aMember questions the legislative competence, a full debate is required.

82Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012List II – State List, entry 32, says, “Incorporation, regulation and windingup of corporations, other than those specified in List I, and universities..”Sir, the Bill in today’s List of Business says, “..for the establishment andincorporation of a university..” It is the right of the State Government. Sir, afterthe 42 nd amendment to the Constitution during the period of emergency in 1976,education was shifted to the Concurrent List.THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): Please be brief....(Interruptions)... It is enough.SHRI P. RAJEEVE: Sir, it is very important. ...(Interruptions)...DR. CHANDAN MITRA: Sir, the hon. Member raised this point earlier on 28 thDecember. The matter is not resolved yet. Sir, resolve the matter before the Billis moved.THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): Please be brief.SHRI P. RAJEEVE: Sir, I am trying to be brief. But this provision isrequired to be read. Then entry 25, List III – Concurrent List, states,“Education, including technical education, medical education anduniversities, subject to the provisions of entries 63, 64, 65 and 66 ofList I..” The Parliament has the power to make laws on universitiessubject to provisions of entries 63, 64, 65 and 66 of List I. Then Imove to List I to tell you as to what are the restrictions. Entry 63 says,“The institutions known at the commencement of this Constitution as

83Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012the Benares Hindu University, the Aligarh Muslim University and theDelhi University; the University established in pursuance of article371E..” What does the article 371E says? It says, “Establishment ofCentral University in Andhra Pradesh.”THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): You need not go intoall these details.SHRI P. RAJEEVE: Sir, it is a very important point. I am reading onlythe specific provision. I need to read it to present my point. Article371E says, “Parliament may by law provide for the establishment of aUniversity in the State of Andhra Pradesh.” The Constitution itselfmentions the name of the University where the Parliament has powerto make laws and any other institution declared by Parliament by lawto be an ‘institution of national importance’.(Contd. by VKK/1S)-YSR/VKK-SC/1s/1.10SHRI P. RAJEEVE (CONTD.): You please go through the Bill. There isno provision. You go through the Statement of Objects and Reasonsof the Bill. You go through the objects mentioned in the main body ofthe Bill. There is a single sentence that this University is to be aUniversity of national importance. The Central Government has no

84Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012power to make a law to incorporate it. (Time-bell) Actually, Sir, in1976, the Parliament amended the Constitution, transferring‘education’ to the Concurrent List. But, the Parliament did not touchEntry 44 of List I. The Parliament did not touch the State List. Then, asper the existing Lists, there is no provision. If the Government wantsto make a law, there are so many precedents. The Minister earlierstated them. But, the provisions of the Constitution cannot beoverruled by any precedent. (Time-bell)THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): Okay. You made yourpoint.SHRI P. RAJEEVE: If the Government wants to make a legislation,then, it must come forward with an amendment of the provisions ofthe Constitution.THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): Okay. Now, ShriBandyopadhyay. You have given notice. Are you not pressing?SHRI D. BANDYOPADHYAY: Sir, I will speak on the Bill and notbefore.THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): Okay. Then, Shri RamKripal Yadav. Do you have anything to say here? You are not

85Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012pressing. (Interruptions) You want to speak in the debate. Okay.Now, the hon. Minister to reply.THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI SHARAD PAWAR): Sir,this is a Bill which is suggesting to establish Rani Lakshmi Bai CentralAgricultural University. That will be essentially in the Bundelkhandarea. That area consists of seven districts of Uttar Pradesh and sixdistricts of Madhya Pradesh. When I tried to introduce the Bill lasttime, same issue was raised. However, there is already a CentralUniversity in Imphal which is catering to seven States. Entry 25 of theConcurrent List of the Constitution reads as follows: “Education,including technical education, medical education and universities,subject to the provisions of entries 63, 64, 65 and 66 of List I;vocational and technical training of labour.” If there was no objectionto setting up Central Agricultural University in Imphal, Manipur then, Idon’t understand why there is objection to set up an AgriculturalUniversity in the area of Bundelkhand. Entry 14 of the State List coversagriculture. It says, “Agriculture, including agricultural education andresearch, protection against pests and prevention of plant diseases.”It is clearly mentioned that agriculture includes agricultural education

86Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012and Entry 14 of the State List makes that position absolutely clear.Here, we would like to set up this University knowing fully well that thisis a backward area and this is essentially an agricultural area. We wantto provide educational facilities to more States. We want to provideequal number of colleges and institutions in Madhya Pradesh andUttar Pradesh. Fortunately, the hon. Chief Minister of MadhyaPradesh has written and supported this proposal. The Government ofUttar Pradesh has also sent a communication and supported thisproposal. I don’t think any problem of the Constitution comes in thepicture. As I said, about 25 years back, the Government of India hadset up a Central Agricultural University in Imphal which is catering to allthe North-Eastern States. Similarly, for Madhya Pradesh and UttarPradesh, we would like to set up this University. (Interruptions)THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): No, no. (Interruptions)He has replied. (Interruptions) The Leader of Opposition wants to saysomething.THE LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION (SHRI ARUN JAITLEY): May Isuggest to the Minister a way out? The hon. Member, Shri Rajeeve,has raised an issue. His objection is a little different. The hon. Minister

87Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012is right. If there is a university partly in Uttar Pradesh and partly inMadhya Pradesh, neither Uttar Pradesh Assembly can set it up norMadhya Pradesh Assembly can set it up. Their territorial jurisdiction isconfined to their States. So, it will have to be set up in some othermanner, either by both the States or by the Central Government.Now, the difficulty that the Central Government has under this Bill is…(Contd. by KR/1t)KR/1T/1.15SHRI ARUN JAITLEY (CONTD.): .. that under your Entry 44 of List Iuniversities have been excluded from the Central List. So, Mr Rajeeveis saying that universities have been excluded. You can haveincorporation of corporations and others but not universities. The onlyuniversities under which you can establish under the Central List arethe ones given under Entry 63 of List I. "The institutions known at thecommencement of this Constitution as the Benares Hindu University,the Aligarh Muslim University and the Delhi University,.." These arepre-Constitution universities. So, they are specifically mentioned.Now, there are post-Constitution universities which are Centraluniversities like Jawaharlal Nehru University, Imphal University and

88Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012other universities, for which the Constitution says "..and theUniversity established in pursuance of article 371E" which is AndhraPradesh, "any other institution declared by Parliament by law to bean institution of national importance." So, the only university whichyou can set up like this university, if you carry a provision in this Billthat this is an institution of national importance. So, the ImphalUniversity and the Jawaharlal Nehru University have all been set up.So, in section 2, you will say that there shall be a university which willhave campuses in these places. The next provision if it says it shall bean institution of national importance, then, within Entry 63 of List I, youare entitled to set it up. That one sentence at some stage you shouldpropose in this Bill by way of an official amendment. That is all.SHRI SHARAD PAWAR: I accept it. I will bring it as an officialamendment.THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF.P.J. KURIEN): So, that is accepted.The question is:That the leave be granted to introduce a Bill further to providefor the establishment and incorporation of a Universityfor the Bundelkhand region for the development of agricultureand for the furtherance of the advancement of learning and

89Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012prosecution of research in agriculture and allied sciences inthis region.The motion was adopted.SHRI SHARAD PAWAR: Sir, I introduce the Bill.(Ends)STATEMENT RE. REAR END COLLISION OCCURRED RECENTLYON SOUTH WESTERN RAILWAYTHE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRIBHARATSINH SOLANKI): Mr Vice-Chairman, Sir, I am pained toapprise the House regarding an unfortunate incident of rear endcollision which occurred today early morning at 0310 hrs at Penukondastation in Anantapur district of Andhra Pradesh on Dharmavaram-Bangalore single line, non-electrified section of Bangalore Division ofSouth Western Railway. While the goods train No. MNGT/N wasstationary at Penukonda station; Train No.16591 Hubli-BangaloreHampi Express passed the down home signal of Penukonda station atdanger and collided with the stationary goods train in the rear. As aresult, two coaches of the passenger train (first and third from trainengine) derailed and the first derailed coach caught fire. As per

90Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012available information, 19 passengers of Hampi Express lost theirvaluable lives, 08 suffered grievous injuries and 27 suffered simpleinjuries.Medical relief was immediately despatched through Accident ReliefMedical Trains (ARME) of Hindupur, Guntakal and Bangalore whichreached the site early morning at 0455 hrs, 0555 hrs and 0610 hrsrespectively. Injured persons were immediately shifted to the HindupurGovernment Hospital, Penukonda Government Hospital andPuttaparti Hospital. Help was also sought from local civil authorities forrescue and relief operations.As per preliminary information received, the incident occurred dueto signal passing at danger by the loco pilot of Hampi Express.Shri Mukul Roy, Honourable Minister of Railways has already left forthe site. He might be reaching in the evening at 5 o'clock.On humanitarian grounds, an ex-gratia of Rs.5 lakh each to thenext of the kin of deceased, Rs.1 lakh to the grievously injured andRs.50,000 to the persons who sustained simple injury has beenannounced.

91Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012On behalf of the Railways and myself, I express deep condolencesto the bereaved families and also express sincere sympathies to theinjured.I trust the House will join me in extending heartfelt condolences tothe bereaved families.SOME HON. MEMBERS: Yes.(Ends)(Followed by 1U)-KR-TMV-ASC-VK-RG/1U/1W/1X/1.20, 1.25 &1.30SHRI DEVENDER GOUD T.: Sir, my only request is to give somesmall employment to any eligible family member of the victims.(Interruptions)...THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P. J. KURIEN): The hon. RailwayMinister has gone to the spot.He will come back and settle it.(Interruptions)...RE. PLIGHT OF INDIAN WORKERS IN ANGOLAी पुरूषोम खोडाभाई रूपाला (गुजरात) : सर, मंतर्ी जी यहां बैठे हुए ह। मनेजब अंगोला का मुा उठाया था, उस व भी उन्हने यह कहा था िक मएबेसडर से जानकारी मंगवा रहा हूं। म कहना चाहता हूं िक वहां से के वल दो-

92Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012चार आदमी ही वापस आए ह और करीब 1200 आदमी वहां पर ह। सरकार ने जोकदम उठाए ह, उनके बारे म बताना चािहए।(समात)THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P. J. KURIEN): Mr. Minister, wouldyou like to say something?ी रामचन्दर् खूंिटआ :सर, ओिडशा के लोग भी अंगोला म ह। ...(यवधान).THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P. J. KURIEN): It is the same. It is avery important issue. (Interruptions)... He is reacting.THE MINISTER OF OVERSEAS INDIAN AFFAIRS (SHRI VAYALARRAVI): Sir, this issue has been dealt with earlier also. TheGovernment is in touch with our Ambassador in Angola and we aremonitoring the whole situation there. As I have said earlier, 1,100workers have been working under an Indian company which hastaken up a contract in Angola. I repeat again what I have said earlier.The whole dispute started on overtime work. The company stoppedovertime since February because the Angolan Government had notpaid the money to them. Two months’ arrears had come. They hadto pay 300 dollars as overtime. But they paid only 100 dollars and, asregards 200 dollars, they said that they would pay it in their own local

93Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012currency. That is the dispute. Then, the workers went on strike.Unfortunately, some very unfortunate incident happened on 9 th May,which led to the arrest of 59 Indians.Out of that, 37 persons havebeen found to be innocent.Only 22 persons have been found to beguilty and they have been arrested and fined. Thereafter, theGovernment and all of us are in touch with the contractor andeverybody. We announced that those who wanted to come back toIndia would be provided with the ticket and that they would be sentback to India. At the same time, the issue of arrears which are to bepaid is also taken up with the contractor and the Government by ourAmbassador. At our level also it is taken up with the contractor andthe Government to pay the arrears and to send them back.As far as the case is concerned, the management has, inrespect of the people who have worked, agreed to waive the fineimposed by the court. The workers need not pay any fine. That hasbeen waived by the management. They said, “Don’t pay”. Asregards the compensation also, the contractor agreed that they neednot pay it. So, our embassy is involved in it. I can assure the Houseand the hon. Members that those who want to come back, they will

94Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012be sent back to India and the tickets will be provided to them. We willsee to it also that they get the arrears.We will do our best to getthem their arrears.(Ends)ी तरुण िवजय : *THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P. J. KURIEN): Special Mentions tobe laid on the Table.(Interruptions)... It is not going on record.(Interruptions)... What Shri Tarun Vijay says is not going on record.* Not recorded∗ SPECIAL MENTIONSASC/9ADEMAND TO EVOLVE A MECHANISM TO QUANTIFY ANDSTANDARDISE COBALT ELEMENT IN UTENSILS MADE OFSTAINLESS STEEL.∗ Laid on the Table.

95Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012अिवनाश राय खा (पंजाब) : महोदय, आजकल लोग आम तौर पर टेनलैसटील के बतर्न इतेमाल कर रहे ह। इनम खाना भी बनाया जाता है और इनमखाना खाया भी जाता है। एक अध्ययन के मुतािबक इन बतर्न म कोबाट जैसातत्व भी पाया जाता है। टेनलैस टील बतर्न को बनाने के िलए िवदेश से कर्े पमंगाया जाता है। इस कर्े प म के िमकल भी होते ह। जब कर्े प को गलाया जाताहै, तो उसम िनकल कर्ोम और मेिग्नजन आिद तत्व को िमलाकर टेनलैसटील की सीली तैयार की जाती है और िफर इन से शीट तैयार की जाती है।शीट से अलग-अलग िडजाइन के बतर्न तैयार होते ह।महोदय, म जानना चाहता हूं िक क्या भारत म कोबाट को जांचने कीकोई यवथा है? क्यिक कोबाट की वजह से ही िदली के मायापुरी क्षेतर् मरेिडएशन हुआ था। तथ्य सािबत करते है िक जो टेनलैस टील के बतर्न ह,उनम कोबाट की मातर्ा िकतनी हो, इसकी जांच जरूरी है। इसके िलए के नरलगने जरूरी ह। अभी जब अमेिरका एवं यूरोपीय देश म टेनलैस टील केबतर्न की जांच की गई, तो कं टेनर म कोबाट मातर्ा से ज्यादा पाया गया औरउन देश ने ये कं टेनर भारत को वापस लौटा िदए। लोग का यह भी मानना हैिक िजन बतर्न म कोबाट पाया जाता है, उन बतर्न म खाना बनाने और खानाखाने से लीवर, गुदार् खराब होने का खतरा होता है। लड क सर का खतरा बढ़नेसे दय रोग और दमा जैसी खतरनाक बीमािरयां होने का खतरा भी होता है।

96Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012महोदय, मेरा सरकार से िनवेदन है िक कोबाट तत्व की जांच हेतुके नर उपलध कराने की योजना बनाई जाए। इसके िलए एक जागरूकताअिभयान भी चलाने की जरूरत है। सरकार इस बारे म क्या कर रही है?कोबाट के िलए मानक क्या ह और सरकार इसके मानक तय करे।(समात)LP/9BDEMAND TO INCLUDE THE RAJASHTANI LANGUAGE INTO THEEIGHTH SCHEDULE TO THE CONSTITUTION.डा. भा ठाकु र (राजथान) : देश एवं िवदेश म थािपत छह करोड़ से भीअिधक राजथान वािसय की मातृभाषा राजथानी को अभी तक संवैधािनकमान्यता नहीं दी गई है। यह बड़े अफसोस एवं आचयर् का िवषय है, जबिकराजथान के िस किव ी चन्दर्काश देवल को, उनके ारा राजथानीभाषा म िलखे किवता संगर्ह को, सरकार ने मान्यता देते हुए, महामिहम राटर्पितमहोदया ारा राजथानी रचनाओं के िलए इस वषर् पी से िवभूिषत िकया है।इससे राजथानी की संवैधािनकता अपने आप म मािणत हो जाती है। अत:राजथानवािसय की पुरजोर मांग पर सरकार को ध्यान देने की आवयकता है।जब राजथान के टी.वी. एवं रेिडयो ारा सािरत राजथानी भाषा के समाचारकायर्कर्म की, राजथानी को लेकर राजथानवािसय म कोई मतभेद नहीं है, तोिबना िकसी कारण के राजथानी म िलखे समृ सािहत्य की एवं राजथान-

97Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012वािसय की भावना की उपेक्षा िकया जाना न्यायसंगत नहीं है। अत: उपरोतथ्य को ध्यान म रखते हुए सरकार शीघर् राजथानी भाषा को संवैधािनकमान्यता देने की यथाशीघर् कायर्वाही करे, तािक करोड़ राजथानवािसय केवािभमान की पूिर्त हो सके ।(समात)HK/9cDEMAND FOR TAKING EFFECTIVE STEPS FORUNIVERSALISATION OF ELEMENTARY EDUCATION IN COUNTRYDR. JANARDHAN WAGHMARE (MAHARASHTRA): Sir,universalisation of elementary education is our destination. Yet, it isfar away. It requires equal opportunity of education to every child.The Right to Education has ensured universal access to elementaryeducation to all. But is that enough? Universalisation of elementaryeducation visualizes universal enrolment and retention.Universalisation of retention is more crucial than the universalisation ofenrolment. The drop-out rate is still 42.39 per cent.There are many factors that are responsible for drop-outs.Apathy of parents is one of the major factors. Absenteeism ofteachers is a matter of great concern today. We require an army of

98Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012self-motivated and well-trained teachers with a sense ofaccountability.Moreover, the problem of drop-outs is interlinked with theproblem of child labour. It is a very difficult problem to tackle.Universalisation of elementary education is indeed a difficult,crucial and gigantic problem.I urge upon the Government to take effective steps to reach thedestination.(Ends)GSP-9DDEMAND TO TAKE EFFECTIVE STEPS TO CHECK THEOUTBREAK OF DENGUE IN TIRUNELVELI IN TAMIL NADUSHRI S. THANGAVELU (TAMIL NADU): Sir, I bring to the notice ofthe Government the spreading of deadliest disease, Dengue fever, inTirunelveli and other southern districts of Tamil Nadu, which needsimmediate attention of the Central Government. The outbreak ofdeadly fever, Dengue, has till now claimed 29 lives in Tirunelveli districtand the number of persons affected by the Dengue fever in many

99Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012places is nearly 1000. This disease is also spreading to other Districts.Since the light shower will commence in the month of June, thespread of dengue fever may further increase, as the climate conditionduring the light shower period increases the breeding of Aedesmosquito. Further, the eggs of the mosquito would remain active upto one month and change to larva stage in the light rain or shower.Presently, the medical assistance provided to the patients inTirunelveli Government Hospital is not enough. Due to paucity ofsufficient beds, patients are lying on the floor, and, are waiting formedical treatment. This situation further intensifies the severity of thedisease and subsequent increase in casualties.Therefore, I request the Government to immediately send aCentral Medical Team with entomologists to assess the situation andprovide immediate medical help to the affected people so as toprevent further loss of life. I also request the Government to urge theState Government to accelerate the medical assistance to the affectedpeople as well as to create awareness among public to prevent thisdisease in the near future.

100Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012SHRI TIRUCHI SIVA (TAMIL NADU): Sir, I associate myself with theSpecial Mention made by the hon. Member.SHRI TAPAN KUMAR SEN (WEST BENGAL): Sir, I also associatemyself with the Special Mention made by the hon. Member.(Ends)SK/9EDEMAND TO TAKE STEPS FOR REGULARISATION OF CONTRACTAND DAILY WAGER WORKERSSHRI RAMA CHANDRA KHUNTIA (ODISHA): In our country, lakhs ofworkers have been working as contract labour, NMR, DLR, workchargedin Central PSUs, State PSUs, Central and State GovernmentDepartments and private sector for years together. They are gettingless wages. There is no social security, no service security, noemployment guarantee, no hope or assurance. For their whole life,they work as temporary workers and also die as temporary workers.He or she has family responsibility for their children’s education,medical care, marriage and other day-to-day expenditures of family.Their salary is one-fourth of regular workers. In public sector also,

101Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012contract labourers are getting less although public sectors and privatesectors are getting good profits. All Central trade unions have alsojointly spoken about this. In all developed countries, contract labouror temporary labour get rather more wages whether a job oremployment created may not be regular. But how can there bediscrimination in wages and other allowances between the workersdoing the same volume of work? There should be equal wage forequal work and when the Central and the State Governments haveaccepted the Pay Commission recommendations, what is the harm ifthey regularize all DLR, work-charged, NMR workers working invarious departments of Central Government and State Governmentsand Central PSUs and State PSUs.All workers for same work must get same wage, allowance,medical care, ESIC and EPF coverage and should also get bonus andpension. Gratuity must be increased to one month per year and thepension of EPF must be Rs. 2,000 minimum per month. All Contract,DLR, work-charged workers should be given gratuity and pension.(Ends)

102Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012SHRI TAPAN KUMAR SEN (WEST BENGAL): Sir, I associate myselfwith the issue raised by the hon. Member.SHRI ANANDA BHASKAR RAPOLU (ANDHRA PRADESH): Sir, Iassociate myself with the issue raised by the hon. Member.(Ends)YSR/9FREQUEST FOR RELEASING POSTAGE STAMP AND NAMINGCENTRAL EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTE IN MEMORAY OF VETERANSOCIALIST PRAKASH MOHADIKARDR. BHARATKUMAR RAUT (MAHARASHTRA): The House musthave heard the sad news of the death of veteran freedom fighter andhonest socialist Shri Prakash Mohadikar, fondly known as PrakashBhai, on Saturday, 18 th May 2012, at the age of 94. Prakash Bhaiparticipated in the freedom struggle and was arrested on severaloccasions for staging satyagraha under the leadership of MahatmaGandhi.After India achieved freedom, Prakash Bhai decided to dedicatehis life for the upliftment of the deprived and spread education to allstrata of the society. His close association with socialist leader late

103Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012Sane Guruji took him to the path of socialism. As a part of hismission, Prakash Bhai launched many campaigns in Maharashtra,particularly in Mumbai. Amar Hind Mandal, Sane Guruji Vidyalaya,Gyanba Vidyalaya, and Sane Guruji Kathamala are a few of theinstitutions he launched, nursed and made them flourish. PrakashBhai was also elected as a Member of Mumbai Municipal Corporationand later as a Member of Legislative Council.Prakash Bhai can be truly described as one of the lastchampions of socialism in Maharashtra. Apart from being a freedomfighter, he was also an educationist and social reformer. I, therefore,request the Government to name one of the Central Governmenteducational institutes like Kendriya Vidyalaya after him and alsorelease a special postal stamp in his memory.(Ends)THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): Shri Avtar SinghKarimpuri. (Interruptions).DR. BHARATKUMAR RAUT:Sir, I also take this opportunity toregister my protest. I have given my zero hour notice two days backon falling value of the rupee.

104Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): No, no. Shri AvtarSingh Karimpuri. (Interruptions). Please sit down. You know thereason. You cannot question the Chair.You cannot question thedecision of the Chair. Please sit down. (Interruptions). Please takeyour seat.DR. BHARATKUMAR RAUT: Sir, ∗ *THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): It is not going onrecord.That is enough. (Interruptions). It is not going on record.Please sit down. Shri Avtar Singh Karimpuri.AKG/9GDEMAND TO MAKE STRICT LAWS TO CHECK THE SEXUALHARASSMENT OF MENTALLY RETARDEDWOMEN IN THE COUNTRYी अवतार िंसह करीमपुरी (उर देश) : महोदय, बाबा साहब डा. भीमरावअबेडकर ने भारतीय संिवधान म मिहलाओं की सुरक्षा व समान के िलए िवशेषउपबन्ध िकए ह और इन्ह समाज म समानता व समान िदए जाने की िहमायतकी है। परन्तु िपछले कु छ वष म ऐसा देखने म आया है िक हमारे देश की लाखमानिसक रूप से अक्षम मिहलाओं का लगातार शोषण हो रहा है। समाज के कु छ∗ Not recorded.

105Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012असामािजक दिंरदे मानिसक रूप से अक्षम मिहलाओं को यौन शोषण का िशकारबना कर अपनी कर्ूरता िदखाते ह। अनेक ऐसी संथाएँ, जो िवधवा एवं मानिसकरूप से अक्षम मिहलाओं को संरक्षण देने के िलए बनायी गयी ह, उनम भीसंगिठत अपराध करने के िलए इन मिहलाओं का अनेक कार से शोषण िकयाजाता है। यौन शोिषत मिहलाएँ गभर्वती न हो सक , इसके िलए तरह-तरह केनाजायज तरीक का योग भी िकया जाता है। साथ ही जो मिहलाएँ गभर्वती होजाती ह, उनका जबदर्ती एबाशर्न करवा कर भर्ूण हत्या को बढ़ावा िदया जाताहै।भारतीय सड़क पर हजार मिहलाएँ िभखािरन बन कर अपना पेट पालनेके िलए मजबूर ह, लेिकन बहुत सारे हवस के भेिड़ये इन मिहलाओं को अपनेजाल म फँ सा कर गुलाम की तरह इनका इतेमाल करते ह। यौन शोषण कीघटनाएँ लगातार बढ़ रही ह, लेिकन सरकार की ओर से ऐसा कोई कारगरकदम नहीं उठाया गया, िजससे इन मिहलाओं के समान की सुरक्षा हो सके ।अत: म आपके माध्यम से सरकार का ध्यान इस ओर िदलाना चाहता हूँिक वह सख्त से सख्त कानून बना कर मानिसक रूप से अक्षम मिहलाओं कोयौन शोषण, उत्पीड़न व गुलामी भरे जीवन से मुि िदलाने की कृ पा करे।(समात)SCH/9H

106Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012DEMAND TO ISSUE GUIDELINES TO GIVE THE BENEFITS OFRESERVATION TO PEOPLE BELONGING DENOTIFIED TRIBES,NOMADIC AND SEMI-NOMADIC COMMUNITIES IN THE COUNTRY.ो. अिनल कु मार साहनी (िबहार): महोदय, अंगर्ेजी राज्य के समय मलाहसमुदाय के लोग अंगर्ेजी राज्य के िवरोध म उठ खड़े हुए और वतंतर्ता संगर्ाम मबढ़-चढ़ कर उन्हने भाग िलया। इसके पिरणामवरूप अंगर्ेजी शासन ने इससमुदाय को आपरािधक समुदाय म वगीर्कृ त कर िदया। मलाह समुदाय केअनेक लोग को अंगर्ेजी शासन ने जेल िभजवा िदया, िजसके कारण इससमुदाय के लोग को आिर्थक एवं सामािजक िवषमता का सामना करना पड़ातथा उनके सामािजक तर म भारी िगरावट आ गई। आजादी के बाद भी इससमुदाय के लोग को सामािजक न्याय ात नहीं हो सका।डीनोिटफाइड जनजाित, घुमन्तु एवं अधर् घुमन्तु जनजाित के लोग केिलए जो आयोग बनाया गया, उसने अपनी 2008 की िरपोटर् म यह िसफािरश कीहै िक डीनोिटफाइड जनजाित, घुमन्तु तथा अधर् घुमन्तु समुदाय के लोग को भीआरक्षण का लाभ िमलना चािहए। यह िरपोटर् सामािजक न्याय एवं सशिकरणमंतर्ालय को भेजी जा चुकी है, परन्तु आयोग की िसफािरश को अभी तक लागूनहीं िकया गया है। के न्दर् सरकार का यह मत है िक वह सुिवधाएं और लाभ जोिपछड़ी जाित के लोग को िमल रहे ह, उनसे वापस न िलए जाएं, के वल इसीकारण से िक उनकी जाित अनुसूिचत जाितय की सूची म शािमल नहीं है। वह

107Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012पूवर् के कई ऐसे आदेश ह, िजनके अंतगर्त डीनोिटफाइड जाित के लोग कोके न्दर्ीय िवविवालय तथा राज्य के िवविवालय जैसे बनारस िहन्दूिवविवालय तथा आईआईटी रूड़की जैसे संथान म आरक्षण का ावधानिकया गया है। इस िवषय म के न्दर् के िशक्षा मंतर्ालय के पतर् संख्या एफ-33-3/62-4.5. िदनांक 28 िसतबर, 1962 का संदभर् िलया जा सकता है।अत: मेरा िनवेदन है िक डीनोिटफाइड जाित के लोग के आरक्षण के िलएके न्दर्ीय िवविवालय तथा उच्च िशक्षा के संथान जैसे िक अिखल भारतीयआयुिर्वज्ञान संथान, पी.जी.आई. चंडीगढ़, बी.एच.यू. तथा आई.आई.टी.रूड़की की तरह आदेश एवं अनुदेश िदए जाय।(समात)9J/PSV/SPL. MENTION/22.05.2012DEMAND TO TAKE EFFECTIVE STEPS TO PROTECT THEEXISTENCE OF MADHUBANI STYLE OF PAINTINGी भात झा (मध्य देश): महोदय, िमिथला पिंटग, जो आजकल मधुबनीपिंटग के नाम से जानी जाती है, न के वल सिदय पुरानी मैिथली क्षेतर् कीसंकृ ित की पहचान है, बिक देश की लोक-िचतर् शैली म अपना मुख थानरखती है। इस पिंटग ने जमर्नी, ांस, िवट्जरलड, अमेिरका, जापान आिददेश की कला दीघार्ओं म खूब नाम कमाया। िजस िमिथला पिंटग को िवदेश मइतनी सराहना और शोहरत िमली, अपने देश म थानीय लोग और सरकार

108Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012ारा वह सदैव उपेिक्षत रही। िमिथला पिंटग से समाज म हािशए पर रहने वालीमिहलाओं को एक नई पहचान िमली। घर से बाहर कदम रखने की आज़ादी दी।एक सरकारी आंकड़े के अनुसार वतर्मान म िमिथला पिंटग के 15 से 20 हजारकलाकार पंजीकृ त ह। इन कलाकार की िथित कलाकार कम कारीगर ज्यादाहो गई है। िबचौिलए कलाकार से मामूली रकम पर पिंटग खरीद कर मोटे दामम बेचते ह। कलाकार को जो रकम दी जाती है, वह महज मजदूरी-मातर् है।यही कारण है िक धीरे-धीरे कलाकार इस कला से दूर होते जा रहे ह। देश-िवदेश के कला ेिमय और कला-दीघार्ओं के बीच ितिठत िमिथला पिंटगआज पहचान के संकट से गुजर रही है। कलाकार की मान तो इसके िलएसरकारी नीितयाँ दोषी ह। उनका मानना है िक सरकार िमिथला पिंटग केसंरक्षण एवं सहयोग के नाम पर महज खानापूिर्त करती है।सरकार से माँग है िक हथकरघा िवभाग त्यक्ष रूप से िमिथला पिंटग केकलाकार से उिचत मूय पर पिंटग खरीदकर भारतीय रेल जैसे सरकारीितठान एवं सरकारी कायार्लय म लगाए और मधुबनी म अंतरार्टर्ीय तर कीएक आटर् गैलरी का शीघर् िनमार्ण कराया जाए।(समात)

109Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012VKK/9kDEMAND TO REDESIGN AND EXPAND THE MODERNISATIONPROJECT OF DURGAPUR STEEL PLANT---SHRI TAPAN KUMAR SEN (WEST BENGAL): Sir, it is a matter ofserious concern that the Ministry of Steel and the Steel Authority ofIndia Limited, SAIL, have drastically curtailed the modernisationprogramme of Durgapur Steel Plant under SAIL in West Bengal. Out ofthe total modernisation plan of Rs.76000 crore for all SAIL plants, onlyRs.4000 crore was initially allotted for Durgapur Steel Plant but eventhat amount was subsequently reduced to Rs.2875 crore by cancellingthe earlier programme of construction for wire-rod mill, new sinterplant, reconstruction of blast furnace, power system augmentation,etc. Curtailment of modernization of Durgapur Steel Plant by such alarge scale, both in finished product and processing, will incapacitateDurgapur Steel Plant even to harness full benefit of whatever beinginvested in modernizations–operationally, financially and commerciallytoo. The entire approach of the Ministry and SAIL towards Durgapur

110Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012Steel Plant modernisation is half-hearted and techno-economicallyunsound too.I, therefore, urge upon the Government and the Ministry, inparticular, to prevail upon SAIL to refrain from such half-hearted andunprofessional approach in respect of modernization of DurgapurSteel Plant, and redesign and expand the modernization project ofDurgapur Steel Plant to ensure and augment its capacity to ninemillion tonnes with additional coke oven battery, a new sintering plant,a new wire-rod mill, a new wheel-axle plant with 100 per cent yield,revamping of raw material handling plant, a new bigger blast furnacebesides reconstruction of existing blast furnace number one. I urgeupon the Government to respond with a positive approach.(Ends)SHRI TIRUCHI SIVA (TAMIL NADU): Sir, I associate myself with theSpecial Mention made by Shri Tapan Kumar Sen.(Ends)(Followed at 9L)

111Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012KR/9LCONCERN OVER MTNL OFFERING OF VRSTO ITS EMPLOYEESSHRI ANIL DESAI (MAHARASHTRA): Mr. Chairman, Sir, I want toraise the issue of MTNL offering of VRS toits employees, through thisaugust House. It is ironical that MTNL is offering VRS to its employeesas part of its efforts to turn profitable. I am not able to understand asto why MTNL has suffered a loss of Rs.929.7 crore for the quarterended December, 2011 when private telecom companies are makingprofit. In fact, MTNL should have had focused approach to improvethe quality and increase the productivity per employee with suchhumungous customer base. We may recall that four years back,MTNL recorded profit before tax to the tune of Rs.6000 crore. As amatter of fact, public sector undertakings contribute a large chunk ofcorporate tax. If the management is serious, its employees could beturned into a great asset. The management could put them tooptimum use. They should consider getting customer feed back onevery day. There is a saying, “where there is a will, there is a way.”The management should listen and take the customer’s reaction

112Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012seriously and that would create a very big impact on the perception ofthe customer about the MTNL. Consequently, it would increase thecustomer base and loyalty. MTNL has created a niche for itself and ithas got a sizeable market share. If any regressive step is taken byMTNL, it would provide boost to the private telecom companies. Thiswill lead to dismantling of the public sector undertaking.In the end, I suggest to make the MTNL profitable, do it byimproving efficiency, productivity and value addition through cuttingedge technology, recruitment of new talent in technology and increasethe market share or customer service instead of VRS.Thank you.(Followed by 9M)TMV/9MCONCERN OVER PREVALENCE OF CHILDMARRIAGE IN THE COUNTRYDR. GYAN PRAKASH PILANIA (RAJASTHAN): Sir, unfortunately,Modern India continues to be plagued by social ills like child marriage,early motherhood and domestic violence.The latest data in the‘State of the World’s Children Report, 2012’ released by the UNICEF

113Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012on 29.2.2012, shows that almost 22 per cent women in India nowaged between 20 and 24 years gave birth to a child before they turned18. Almost 45 among every 1,000 children are born to mothers in the15-19 age brackets. According to UNICEF, more than 40 per cent ofthe world’s child marriages still occur in India.World-wide, morethan 60 million women between 20 and 24 years were married beforethey turned 18.According to the National Family Health Survey, about 10 milliongirls are married each year before the age of 18 world-wide, one-thirdof them live in India.Child marriage is prohibited by law in India.However, the latest available Government survey found 48 per cent ofwomen (aged 20-24) were married or are in union before the age of18 and almost one in five was married or in union before she turned 15.Only 35 per cent adolescent males (aged 15-19) and 19 per centadolescent females have a comprehensive knowledge of HIV.Shockingly around 57 per cent of male adolescents (aged 15-19) and53 per cent of female adolescents thought a husband was justified inbeating up their wives under certain circumstances.

114Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012In view of the above worrying scenario, I would request the hon.Minister of Women and Child Welfare to take curative steps.(Ends)VK/9NDEMAND FOR GIVING APPROVAL TO PROPOSAL OFGOVERNMENT OF GUJARAT TO USE GUJARATI LANGUAGE INPROCEEDINGS OF GUJARAT HIGH COURTSHRI PARSHOTTAM KHODABHAI RUPALA (GUJARAT): Sir theState Government of Gujarat has unanimously passed a resolution touse Gujarati language, the principal mother tongue language of theState, in the working, documentation, legal proceedings and order ofjudgement of the hon. High Court of Gujarat, under Article 348 of theConstitution.The Secretariat of the Governor of Gujarat, vide its letter No.GS/14/2967/2011 dated 13.05.2011, has moved this proposal to theMinistry of Home Affairs, Government of India, under Article 348 (2) ofthe Constitution of India, to obtain prior consent of the President ofIndia, in this regard.

115Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012The Father of the Nation, Mahatma Gandhi, was quoted by thehon. Supreme Court that the baby takes its first lesson from itsmother. It may be a sin against the motherland to inflict upon herchildren a tongue other than their mother’s for their mentaldevelopment, as the Central Government has not taken any fruitfulaction in this regard till date.Due to rising literacy level among common people andenhancing influence of electronic and print media among the society,the participation of people in various judicial matters has been risingvery sharply nowadays. Generally, the people of Gujarat State are notcomfortable with the English language, so one cannot find moreemployees in various Central Ministries.Allowing the Gujaratilanguage, under Article 348 (2) of the Constitution of India, in theworking of the High Court of Gujarat, may be helpful to the society toplay a greater role in our independent judicial system.I, therefore, request that necessary approval may be given tothe proposal of the Government of Gujarat. Thank you.(Ends)

116Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012VNK/9oDEMAND TO HIKE HONORARIUM OF ASHA WORKERS EMPLOYEDUNDER NATIONAL RURAL HEALTH MISSION IN BIHARी राम कृ पाल यादव (िबहार): महोदय, वाथ्य और पिरवार कयाण िवभागम करीब 8.61 लाख आशा (accredited social health activists) वाथ्यसेिवका पूरे देश म NRHM के तहत कायर्रत ह। सभी राज्य म इनकी अलग-अलग संख्या है। िबहार म करीब 80,000 आशा सेिवकाएं ह। ये कमजोर वगर् कीिवधवा, िन:सहाय और गरीब मिहलाएं होती ह और सुदूर देहात म कायर् करतीह। ये माताओं को सव पीड़ा के समय नजदीक के वाथ्य के न्दर् पर पहुंचा करउनका सकु शल सव कराने म सहायता करती ह। इसके िलए आशासेिवकाओं को ित सव भा 100-200 रुपए िमलता है। 28.12.2009 को हुईNRHM की बैठक म यह िनणर्य िलया गया िक आशा सेिवका को 500 रुपएमािसक मानदेय िदया जाए, िकन्तु दुभार्ग्य की बात यह है िक िव मंतर्ालय केआनाकानी के कारण समाज के सबसे महत्वपूणर् व नीचे के पायदान पर िन:वाथर्सेवा करने वाली करीब 8.61 लाख आशा सेिवकाओं को आज तक 500 रुपएमानदेय नहीं शुरू हुआ है।

117Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012मेरे राज्य, िबहार म तो अैल, 2010 से सव भा तक का भुगतान नहींहुआ है। िपछले वषर् पटना म इनका आंदोलन भी हुआ था। इसके बाद राज्य केवाथ्य मंतर्ी जी ने आवासन िदया िक 15.01.2012 तक भुगतान हो जाएगा,लेिकन अभी तक कु छ नहीं िदया गया है। अब तो NRHM ने आशा सेिवका सेऔर अिधक सेवाएं लेने का िनणर्य िलया है, जैसे, टीकारण और गर्ामीण इलाकम वाथ्य जागरूकता आिद।अत: सरकार से अनुरोध है िक वह इन िनधर्न आशा सेिवकाओं को 500रुपए मािसक मानदेय का भुगतान NRHM के तहत िलए गए िनणर्य की ितिथ सेकरे। धन्यवाद।(समात)डा. एम. एस. िगल (पंजाब): सर, म वयं को इस िवशेष उलेख के साथ संबकरता हूँ।ी रामिवलास पासवान (िबहार): महोदय, म वयं को इस िवशेष उलेख केसाथ संब करता हूँ।ी आनंद भाकर रापोलू (आन्धर् देश): महोदय, म वयं को इस िवशेषउलेख के साथ संब करता हूँ।(समात)RG/9PBRIDGE BETWEEN RAMESWARAM AND TALAIMANNAR

118Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012DR. E.M. SUDARSANA NATCHIAPPAN (TAMIL NADU): Sir, India’s‘Look East’ Policy, which is a crucial foreign policy initiative, is centredon India’s near-East. This policy is about connectivity, road, rail,telecommunication from India, connecting its North-East,Bangladesh, Myanmar, Thailand and beyond, hopefully all the way toVietnam. This is an ambitious network comprising 1,41,000 kms ofroadways and areas crossing 32 Asian countries. Twenty-nineGovernments have signed it up.The Economic and SocialCommission for Asia and the Pacific (UNESCAP) is having a proposalto initiate it.The bridge between Rameswaram and Talaimannar in Sri Lankawill have the international land route for Sri Lanka. This is anambitious programme to connect all the Asian countries through landroute as this was the vision of ESCOS. During the freeodom struggle,as early as 1930, Mahakavi Subramania Bharathi sung that byelevating Sethu (Ramanathapuram Kingdom was called SethupathBoomi which includes Rameswaram and Islands) land route to Eelam(Sinhala Island). This will help to preserve and compliment theancient Rama Bridge as well as the Sethu Samudram Project.

119Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012(Ends)(Followed by 9Q)SSS/9Q/NEED TO HIKE AS PER DOT NORMS, FEES PAID TO CASUALNEWS READER-CUM-TRANSLATORS EMPLOYED AT REGIONALCENTRES OF ALL INDIA RADIOSHRI KUMAR DEEPAK DAS (ASSAM): Sir, hundreds of the casualNews Reader-cum-Translators of News Service Division of All IndiaRadio in all its regional centres, including Guwahati, remain in muchmore lower remuneration in comparison to prescribed fees mentionedin the Department of Personnel and Training (DoPT) OfficeMemorandum of August 1988. It is needless to mention that thefunctions performed by those workers are almost identical to those ofregular staff. It is, therefore, high time to take necessary steps by theMinistry of Information and Broadcasting for reasonable hike in fees tocasual News Reader-cum-Translators as per DoT norms, linked withdearness allowance across all regional offices of the AIR, with a

120Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012priority to the North-Eastern Region as it falls under “Special CategoryStates” of the country.(Ends)9R/DSDEMAND TO REVIEW THE CURRENT EVALUATION SYSTEMUPTO CLASS EIGHTH AND MAKE THE BOARD EXAMMANDATORY FOR CLASS TENTHडा. राम काश (हिरयाणा): महोदय, िकसी भी नीित के अच्छे होने का माणउसकी गुणवा म आने वाला सकारात्मक पिरवतर्न होता है। भारत म िशक्षा केक्षेतर् म जब िकसी िवाथीर् को फे ल न करने की णाली लागू की गयी थी, तो यहसोचा गया था िक इसके सुखद पिरणाम हगे और िशक्षा की गुणवा म सुधारआएगा, परन्तु इसके िवपिरत पिरणाम सामने आए।आज पाँचवीं कक्षा केिवाथीर् की इतनी भी योग्यता नहीं है िजतनी दूसरी कक्षा वाले की होनी चािहए।इस िनणर्य ने हमारी कू ली िशक्षा को खतरनाक तर तक नीचे पहुँचा िदया है।हाल ही म आए तीन सवक्षण से पट है िक पाँचवीं के 49 ितशत बच्चे हीदूसरी कक्षा के पाठ को ठीक से पढ़ पाते ह। इन तथ्य ने हम इस णाली परपुनिर्वचार करने पर मजबूर कर िदया है।

121Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012यिद हमने कू ली तर, िजसके िलए भारत िवव म जाना जाता है, कोबनाए रखना है तो हम अपनी पूवर् मूयांकन णाली को दसवीं कक्षा तक पुन:लागू करना होगा, अन्यथा हमारी कू ली िशक्षा का तर दुिनया के मुकाबले बहुतही िनन तर पर पहुँच जाएगा तथा हमारे बच्चे िवव म िपछड़ जाएँगे। ये बच्चेकू ल म 14 वषर् िबताने के बाद भी िकसी नौकरी या यवसाय के योग्य नहीं बनपाएँगे और अपनी उदर-पूिर्त के िलए अपराध करने पर उतारू हो जाएँगे।अत: म सरकार से अनुरोध करूँगा िक दसवीं कक्षा म बोडर् परीक्षाएँअिनवायर् की जाएँ। दसवीं कक्षा तक मूयांकन गर्ेिंडग से न हो, बिक नबसर्िदए जाएँ तथा आठवीं कक्षा तक वत: मोशन की णाली बन्द की जाए।(समात)MCM/9sDEMAND TO MAKE ARRANGEMENTS FOR PROCUREMENTOF THE GARLIC PRODUCE IN RAJASTHAN UNDERMARKET INTERVENTION SCHEMEी ओम काश माथुर (राजथान): महोदय, आपने मुझे लोक महत्व के इतनेमहत्वपूणर् िवषय पर बोलने का मौका िदया, इसके िलए म आपका आभारी हूँ।महोदय, म कृ िष मंतर्ी जी का ध्यान आकिर्षत करना चाहता हूँ। म जहां से आताहूँ, वहां फसल पूरी तरह मानसून पर िनभर्र रहती है। इस वषर् इन्दर् देव की कृ पारही, तो िकसान के चेहरे िखल उठगे। इस वषर् राजथान म 1,20,000 हेक्टेयर

122Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012क्षेतर् म लहसुन की बुआई की गई थी व लहसुन का उत्पादन 9 लाख 69 हजार 6सौ िमिटर्क टन से भी अिधक हुआ है, जैसा कृ िष िवभाग का अनुमान है। वतर्मानम िकसान को 5,200 से 5,500 रुपए ित बीघा उत्पादन कीमत ात हो रही है,जब िक लहसुन का लागत मूय ित बीघा 16 से 17 हजार के बीच पड़ता है,िकसान ित बीघा लगभग 10,000 रुपए का नुकसान उठा रहा है। गत वषर्लहसुन का बाजार मूय 80 से 120 रुपए ित िकलो रहा था, िजससे उत्सािहतहोकर लघु और मध्यम दज के िकसान, जो ठेका कात करते ह, ने जमीनमुनाफे पर लेकर लहसुन की खेती की और वतर्मान म उसका मूय 5 रुपए ितिकलो ात हो रहा है, िजसके चलते िकसान अपना कजार् उतारने की िथित मभी नहीं है और राजथान म िवशेषकर हाड़ोती के इलाके म िकसान आत्महत्याको मजबूर हो रहे ह। वहां िवदभर् जैसे हालत बन सकते ह।महोदय, म आपके माध्यम से कृ िष मंतर्ी जी से अनुरोध करना चाहता हूँिक तुरन्त भाव से माक ट इन्टरवेन्शन कीम के तहत लहसुन की खरीदकरवाने एवं िनयार्त करवाने की यवथा कर, अन्यथा िकसान, जो बेहद परेशानह, वे कोई भी आत्मघाती कदम उठाने को मजबूर हो सकते ह। िकसान कोउनके कज से बचाने के िलए शीघर् ही लहसुन की उपज का लागत मूय उपलधकराने के िलए एम.आई.एस. कीम के अन्तगर्त राज्य के िकसान की फसलखरीदने की यवथा की जाए। धन्यवाद।(समात)

123Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012ी पुरूषोम खोडाभाई रूपाला (गुजरात): महोदय, म वयं को इस िवशेषउलेख के साथ संब करता हूँ।(समात)-SSS/NBR/9T.AGITATION BY NALCO WORKERSSHRI DHARMENDRA PRADHAN (BIHAR): Sir, the National AluminumCompany Ltd., (NALCO) is a Navaratna PSU of the Government ofIndia. It played a key role in turning India to a net exporter ofaluminium from being a net importer until 1981. It is a major foreignexchange earner for the Government. But, a private company inaluminium business is reportedly trying to influence the CentralGovernment so as to get a decision in its favour, which wouldadversely impact the interests of the PSU. The workers of NALCOhave alleged that this private company is trying to source alumina forits fledgling smelting plant in Odisha. To achieve this purpose, theprivate company has sought cancellation of a tender already decidedso that it can bid and win the contact for sourcing alumina from thePSU. The workers argue that the sale of alumina to that privatecompany would not only cause loss of the precious foreign exchange

124Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012but also result in declining profits. They fear that this loss making andbuckling to private influence, will pave the way for its eventualprivatization. The workers are highly agitated and even written to thehon. Prime Minister. The Government should not allow suchundermining of its PSUs. It is also a threat to the economic interestsof Odisha and also a menace to livelihood of thousands of workers.(Ends)THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN):The House isadjourned for lunch for one hour.------The House then adjourned for lunch at thirty-one minutes past one ofthe clockSSS-SCH/1Y/2.30The House reassembled after lunch atthirty-one minutes past two of the clock,THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P. J. KURIEN) in the Chair....

125Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P. J. KURIEN): We shall now take upthe Railway Property (Unlawful Possession) Amendment Bill, 2011.THE RAILWAY PROPERTY (UNLAWFUL POSSESSION)AMENDMENT BILL, 2011THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRIBHARATSINH SOLANKI): Sir, I beg to move:That the following amendments made by the Lok Sabha inthe Railway Property (Unlawful Possession) Amendment Bill,2011, be taken into consideration, namely:—ENACTING FORMULA1. That at page 1, line 1, for "Sixty-second”, substitute “Sixty-third”.CLAUSE 12. That at page 1, line 4, for “2011”, substitute “2012”.The question was put and the motion was adopted.SHRI BHARATSINH SOLANKI: Sir, I beg to move:That the amendments made by Lok Sabha in the Billbe agreed to.The question was proposed.

126Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P. J. KURIEN):This Bill wasdiscussed here and it is only a substitution of two words. I think wecan pass it without discussion. There is nothing to discuss.DR. GYAN PRAKASH PILANIA: Sir, I would like to say something.THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARYAFFAIRS (SHRI RAJEEV SHUKLA): The debate has already takenplace. It is only an amendment which has come.ी नरेश अगर्वाल: माननीय उपसभाध्यक्ष जी, इस पर कु छ तो बोलने दीिजए।रेलवे की तमाम ॉपटीर् लोग ने कजा कर रखी है ...(यवधान)ी वी.मैतर्ेयन: इस पर िडबेट हो गया है ...(यवधान)ी नरेश अगर्वाल: कहां िडबेट हुआ? कब हुआ? ...(यवधान)उपसभाध्यक्ष (ो. पी.जे. कु िरयन): अगर्वाल जी, इस िबल पर िडकशन था...(यवधान)संसदीय कायर् मंतर्ालय म राज्य मंतर्ी (ी राजीव शु): यह िबल यहां से पास होकर गया है।ी नरेश अगर्वाल: अगर सरकार दबाव म िबल पास कराना चाहती है, तो यहठीक नहीं है ...(यवधान)रेल मंतर्ालय मं राज्य मंतर्ी (ी भरतिंसह सोलंकी): यह दबाव की बात नहीं है।ी नरेश अगर्वाल: रेलवे की तमाम ॉपटीर् बड़े-बड़े ...(यवधान)

127Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012उपसभाध्यक्ष (ो.पी.जे. कु िरयन): अगर्वाल जी, सुिनए, Agarwalji, this Billwas discussed and we passed it. There is nothing to discuss here. Itis only substitution of a word. Nothing is there.ीमती माया िंसह: उपसभाध्यक्ष महोदय, अगर कोई कु छ बात कहना ही चाहताहै, उसके मन म कु छ बात है, तो कहने दिजए ...(यवधान)THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P. J. KURIEN): What is there aboutthis? There is nothing to say.ीमती माया िंसह: यही तो सुनना है िक वे क्या कहने वाले ह ...(यवधान)ी नरेश अगर्वाल: अगर एक बोलेगा तो और भी लोग ह ...(यवधान)ीमती माया िंसह: अगर कोई इस पर कु छ कहना चाह रहा है, तो आप उसकोएलाऊ कीिजए ...(यवधान) इसम चेअर को क्या िदक्कत है? ...(यवधान)THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P. J. KURIEN): Pilaniaji, you can onlyspeak about this amendment. You can only speak about theamendment. That is what I am saying and nothing else. What is thereto speak about the amendment? There is nothing. So, Pilaniaji,kindly agree. Please cooperate.DR. GYAN PRAKASH PILANIA: It is up to you.THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P. J. KURIEN): No; if one Member isallowed, then, I have to allow others also. So, kindly cooperate.

128Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012DR. GYAN PRAKASH PILANIA: Sir, I have always abided by yourrules.THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P. J. KURIEN): Okay.DR. GYAN PRAKASH PILANIA: But....THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P. J. KURIEN): Pilaniaji, pleasecooperate. Now, the question is:That the amendments made by Lok Sabha in the Billbe agreed to.The motion was adopted.(Followed by NBR/1Z)-SSS/NBR-PSV/1Z/2.35.THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): Now, let us take up theTamil Nadu Legislative Council (Repeal) Bill, 2012. Where is theMinister?DR. V. MAITREYAN: Sir, where is the Minister? Please call the hon.Minister. We have to take up the Bill now.THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARYAFFAIRS (SHRI RAJEEV SHUKLA): Sir, the Minister is in the Lok

129Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012Sabha. Discussion on the Anand Marriage (Amendment) Bill is goingon in Lok Sabha. Sir, you take the next item...(Interruptions)...DR. V. MAITREYAN: No, no. Next item means, this repeal Bill will notcome. No, no. Next item means, it will go on...(Interruptions)...SHRI RAJEEV SHUKLA: No, no. It will be done. It will be done...(Interruptions)...THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): What is the nextitem?...(Interruptions)...डा. वी. मैतर्ेयन: वही म पूछ रहा हूँ। ...(यवधान)...Next item half-an-hourdiscussion तो चल ही जाएगा। ...(यवधान)...AN HON. MEMBER: He is giving an assurance that it will be done...(Interruptions)...DR. V. MAITREYAN: No, Sir. Let the Parliamentary Affairs Ministermove on behalf of the Law Minister. It is only a repeal Bill. There isnothing else...(Interruptions)...The hon. Minister is not going tomake any speech on this. The Parliamentary Affairs Minister canmove since it is only a repeal Bill, Sir...(Interruptions)...THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): Mr. Ajit Singh, are yougoing to make your statement?...(Interruptions)...

130Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012डा. वी. मैतर्ेयन: आप ही मूव कर दीिजए। ...(यवधान)... It is only a repealBill, Sir. The Parliamentary Affairs Minister can move the Bill.SHRI RAJEEV SHUKLA: The Minister is coming.DR. V. MAITREYAN: No, no. You move the Bill. Let him come forgiving reply...(Interruptions)...THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): Who will move?DR. V. MAITREYAN: The Parliamentary Affairs Minister will move...(Interruptions)...SHRIMATI VASANTHI STANLEY: Why are you in so much of hurry?...(Interruptions)...THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): Since the Law Ministeris coming...(Interruptions)...He is in the other House...(Interruptions)...DR. V. MAITREYAN: Why are you not taking it up?...(Interruptions)...Is there any conspiracy? Why the hon. Minister,who was here in the whole morning, disappeared suddenly?...(Interruptions)...SHRI RAJEEV SHUKLA: It will be done.

131Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012DR. V. MAITREYAN: No, no. Afterwards it will not be taken up. Iknow that. I know what is happening behind the scene. Now that theBill has come...(Interruptions)...You move the Bill ...(Interruptions)...आप ही मूव कर दीिजए।...(यवधान)...THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): For that, SalmanKhursheed should write to me.DR. V. MAITREYAN: Sir, he has not informed that he would not behere when the Bill will be taken up...(Interruptions)...THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): He should takepermission from me to authorize somebody to move the Bill...(Interruptions)...DR. V. MAITREYAN: Let him move, Sir.THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): No, no. Authorisationis needed...(Interruptions)...Maitreyanji, I will solve the problem.Mr. Rajeev Shukla, will the Law Minister come?SHRI RAJEEV SHUKLA: Yes, Sir. I had sent the message. He willcome at any moment.THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): Okay.

132Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012THE LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION (SHRI ARUN JAITLEY): He is inthe Lok Sabha where discussion on the Anand Marriage(Amendment) Bill is taking place.THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): So, by the time theMinister comes, we will have the statement from the Minister of CivilAviation. And, then it will be taken up. Now, Mr. Ajit Singh.STATEMENT RE. STRIKE BY AIR INDIA PILOTSTHE MINISTER OF CIVIL AVIATION (SHRI AJIT SINGH): Mr. Vice-Chairman, Sir, we all know that Indian Pilots Guild of erstwhile AirIndia is on strike. It is an illegal strike. The Single Bench Judge ofHigh Court declared it as illegal. The IPG went on appeal and the TwoJudge Bench of the High Court has also declared it as illegal strike. Infact, on 7 th or so, I had received a call at about 11.00 pm that somepilots had reported sick. So, basically, they had not given any noticethat they are going on strike. They had some discussions with themanagement of the Air India. But, they did not discuss it with the CivilAviation Ministry or they did not even discuss it with me. They wenton a flash strike. Sir, they have four demands, basically, which theyput before the CMD. The first one is, they have some outstanding

133Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012dues which the management agreed to release. Then, they said thatthe Dreamliner -- the Boeing's new aircraft -- which was ordered bythe Air India sometime back and now we are due to receive them inthe beginning of the next month and pilots have to be sent for training.So, their demand is that only the erstwhile Air India pilots should beallowed to fly them and, therefore, they only should be allowed to betrained on the Dreamliner.(CONTD. BY KS "2A")2a/2:40/ksSHRI AJIT SINGH (contd.):They had obtained a stay from theBombay High Court to the effect that erstwhile Indian Airline pilotswould not be trained on the Dreamliner. The ICPA, which is the unionof erstwhile Indian Airline pilots, moved the Supreme Court. TheSupreme Court vacated the stay and said that it was a managementdecision. Therefore, Air India had sent 50 per cent erstwhile IndianAirline pilots and 50 per cent erstwhile Air India pilots. That was thesecond issue. In my view, that was the main issue.I come to their third demand. At present, they have anagreement with the management that if they do not get promoted to

134Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012the Commander's level, by the tenth year, they will be madeCommanders notionally and they would get the pay and all thebenefits even if there was no vacancy.So, even if they had notbecome Commanders, they would get all those benefits. Theywanted to reduce this ten-year period to six years. They wanted thatin six years time they should all be made Commanders. Basically,these were the demands.All these issues are being considered under the DharmadhikariReport. These are HR issues. In fact, these are the issues on whichthat whole merger has been held up. The Dharmadhikari Report wasreceived by the Ministry on 31 st January. We have looked at it and weare in the process of determining what the impact of their suggestionswould be on pilots, on engineers, on the ground staff, on the cabinstaff. Once we know what the impact would be, then only, we wantto initiate talks with the unions. So, we assured them that within twomonths, we would be talking to them on these issues. They refusedto listen. They reported sick. We sent doctors to talk to them. Sir,seventy to eighty per cent of them were neither at home nor had theygone to any doctor. Then, as I said, they moved the High Court, the

135Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012Two-Judge Bench. The High Court also declared the strike illegal. Infact, the initial order had said that they should report back to work,which they haven't done. So, the Government's view is, we are readyto discuss all the issues, which we would have discussed with themany way.First, let us all remember, Air India is in a very bad financialsituation. They have not been able to pay their pilots. They owethousands of crores to oil companies.They owe more than athousand crores of rupees to the Airports Authority of India.Therefore, the Cabinet had approved a Rs. 30,000 crore package torevive Air India. Now, that package is not without strings. We haveput certain check-points in it. We have specified the parameters onwhich they would be judged, like, the turn-around time, the yield, ontimeperformance which, if Air India has agreed to meet, then only, themoney will be released gradually. Let me also inform the House that,in the last three months, Air India had been doing very well. Theirrevenue had gone up by 35 per cent as compared to the same time oflast year. Their yields went up. Their on-time performance hadimproved. Their equipment-usage had improved. And this is the

136Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012peak season. We told the pilots that we were willing to discusseverything and, at this point of time, if they went on strike, that woulddent the credibility of the Air India.I would like to share something with the hon. Members,because I watched it on television and they must have also seen it.One of the passengers who was to fly in by Air India, he had the AirIndia ticket, said on television, "When I die, I will tell my children tonever fly in Air India". That is the kind of anger passengers have. Togo on strike deliberately at this point of time, which is the peakseason, when Air India's credibility was going up, would put injeopardy the thirty thousand crore package, which is certainly withstrings attached, because banks have to take part in a lot of it andthey are not willing to give even the working capital to any airline. Thatis where the situation stands today. We have taken action and someof the pilots have been dismissed. There is a rule that after fourteendays, a pilot has to go in for a medical check-up and it has been aconvention that they are asked to present themselves before specifiedAir Force medical units where they have to undergo the medicalcheck-up. So, that process is on. Again and again, in Parliament,

137Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012Members from all the political parties have appealed to pilots towithdraw the strike.(cd. by 2b/kgg)2b/2.45/kgg-dsSHRI AJIT SINGH (contd.): I committed in Parliament that there wouldbe no victimization. But, the pilots are not willing. That is where thesituation stands today.(Ends)SHRI RAJIV PRATAP RUDY (BIHAR): Sir, we understand thesituation which the Government is facing. It is a situation which has...ी हुसैन दलवई: सर, मेरा एक वाइंट ऑफ आडर्र है। ..(यवधान).. सर, मनेऐसा सुना है, मुझे मालूम नहीं, इसके बारे म रूडी साहब ही बता सक गे।..(यवधान)..THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): What is the point-oforder?What is the rule?ी हुसैन दलवई: सर, वे खुद एक कपनी म पायलट ह। ..(यवधान)..THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): No, that is not a pointof-order.

138Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012ी हुसैन दलवई: उनकी बीवी एक कपनी म काम करती ह, तो मेरे ख्याल सेयह vested interest है।..(यवधान)..THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): No, that is not a pointof-order.SHRI RAJIV PRATAP RUDY: The House should know this; it is a fairquestion.THE LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION (SHRI ARUN JAITLEY): Sir, Mr.Rudy knows flying and is a pilot. Pilots have held various positions ofthis country; one has also become Prime Minister in the past. But,that does not mean that there is a conflict of interest with the Air Indiastrike! What is this point-of-order? Because he knows flying, can henot ask questions on this?THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): I did not allow thispoint-of-order.SHRI RAJIV PRATAP RUDY: I am an honorary pilot and not on payrolls of any company; so, there is no conflict of interest. Sir, it is awrong statement, my wife is not working with any airlines. She is notworking.

139Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARYAFFAIRS (SHRI RAJEEV SHUKLA): Sir, there was a remark on theformer Prime Minister. I would like to clarify that Shri Rajiv Gandhi hadresigned and then he became the Prime Minister of India.Unnecessarily why are you bringing the name of Rajiv Gandhi?(Interruptions)SHRI RAJIV PRATAP RUDY: Sir, anyway, it is a matter of greatconcern.डा. राम काश: आप हम भी कहने का मौका दीिजए। ..(यवधान).. यहटर्ाइक िफिंक्सग है, जैसा िक मैच िफिंक्सग होता है।..(यवधान).. हर सालमई के महीने म ही टर्ाइक क्य होती है? ..(यवधान)..2007 के मई म,2010 के मई म, 2011 के मई म और 2012 के मई म टर्ाइक हुई।..(यवधान)..THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): Dr. Ram Prakash, it isnot allowed. (Interruptions) Please take your seat.SHRI RAJIV PRATAP RUDY: Sir, as it appears now, the Governmenthas decided that it will not blink; on the other side, pilots have decidedthat they are not going to blink. One has to take a call; Do we allowthis to continue endlessly for a period of time? Already fourteen dayshave elapsed. Then, there is no termination point visible from both the

140Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012sides. There have been precedence that strikes take place and thenthe Government negotiates; the pilots' unions are derecognized; theyare further recognized; thereafter, the pilots are taken back. But, thistime, possibly, it is a very different situation.My only question is: What is your roadmap? What you exactlywant to do in the course of time? It cannot be an endless exercise. Ifyou could just take the House into confidence and give the roadmapas to what you want to do, it would be very nice. We are not going tochallenge you on that. But, we certainly would like to know what isgoing to be the roadmap as far as this stalemate is concerned.(Ends)ी जेश पाठक (उर देश): माननीय उपसभाध्यक्ष महोदय, एयर इंिडया कीहड़ताल कोई अचानक नहीं आ गयी, बिक एयर इंिडया की हड़ताल पहले सेतािवत थी और पूरे देश को यह पता था िक एयर इंिडया म हर साल मई केमहीने म पायलट्स हड़ताल करते ह, जैसा िक अभी एक माननीय सदय नेकहा। हमारा माननीय मंतर्ी जी से सीधा-सीधा सवाल यह है िक एयर इंिडया केपायलट्स की जो हड़ताल है, इस संबंध म सरकार ने अभी तक क्या कारर्वाईकी है? पायलट्स हमारे कोई दुमन नहीं ह, वे हमारे ही भारतवषर् के नागिरकह। ..(यवधान)..

141Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012उपसभाध्यक्ष (ो.पी.जे. कु िरयन): आप क्वेचन पूिछए, टाइम नहीं है।ी जेश पाठक: उनको हड़ताल करने के िलए ी छोड़ िदया गया है। आजहड़ताल हुए लगभग 15 िदन होने जा रहे ह, लेिकन माननीय मंतर्ी जी की तरफसे कोई initiative नहीं िलया गया, सरकार की तरफ से भी कोई initiative नहींिलया गया और उनको हड़ताल करने के िलए ी छोड़ िदया गया। ..(समय कीघंटी).. उनकी बखार्तगी की कारर्वाई लगातार जारी है।उपसभाध्यक्ष (ो.पी.जे. कु िरयन): अब आप समात कीिजए। लॉ िमिनटर आचुके ह और हम िबल भी लेना है। ी नरेश अगर्वाल।ी जेश पाठक: हमारा मंतर्ी जी से सीधा-सीधा सवाल यह है िक उनकीहड़ताल तुड़वाने के िलए आप कौन-सा यास करने जा रहे ह?(समात)(2c/MCM पर आगे)-DS/MCM-TDB/2C/2.50THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): Now, Shri NareshAgrawal. You just put a one-sentence question.SHRI PIYUSH GOYAL: Sir, I also have a one-sentence question.ी नरेश अगर्वाल (उर देश) : माननीय मंतर्ी जी, मुझे थोड़ी तकलीफ हुई िकआपने लाचारी म जवाब िदया। म िसफर् इतना पूछना चाहता हूं िक चौधरी चरण

142Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012िंसह जी उर देश म राजव मंतर्ी थे, उनके टाइम म पटवािरय ने हड़तालकी थी, उन्हने एक िनणर्य िलया था। हम उर देश म ऊजार् मंतर्ी थे, उससमय एक लाख कमर्चािरय ने हड़ताल की थी। हमने भी एक िनणर्य िलया था।अगर बहादुर बनकर िनणर्य लोगे, िनणार्यक बनकर िनणर्य लोगे तो देश केसामने समया का समाधान होगा। म आपसे जानना चाहता हूं िक कम से कमइस सदन म लाचारी के रूप म मत बोिलए। आप क्या िनणर्य लेने जा रहे ह औरआिखर यह हड़ताल कब तक टूटेगी, इस बारे म कम से कम हमारे देश केलोग को पता लगे? पूरे िवव म आज एयर इंिडया की िववसनीयता घट रहीहै, इसिलए हम सबको िववास म लेना जरूरी है। इसिलए म चाहूंगा िक आपिनिचत घोषणा कर और एक िनणर्य ल।(समात)THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): Now, Shri Prem ChandGupta. (Interruptions) Guptaji, please speak. गुता जी,बोिलए।......(यवधान)SHRI PIYUSH GOYAL: Sir, (Interruptions)THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): No, no; I have calledGuptaji. That will not go on record.

143Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012SHRI PIYUSH GOYAL: ∗THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): I have called Guptaji.ी ेम चन्द गुा (िबहार) : मान्यवर, जो कु छ एयर इंिडया म हो रहा है, यहबड़ा दुभार्ग्यपूणर् है और हर बार बड़े तरीके से एयर इंिडया को कै से डट िकयाजा सकता है, बबार्द िकया जा सकता है, यह बड़ी लािंनग के तहत िकया जाताहै। आप बोल रहे ह डर्ीम लाइनर खरीदने के िलए िडलीवरी आपके पास है। Myquestion is, you are buying new planes; you are adding on your fleet,but your present fleet is under-utilized. Why is it so? Why do you wantto convert this airline into a bus house? (Interruptions) Sir, I want thehon. Minister to reply to this point. At the same time, Sir, I would liketo congratulate Mr. Ajit Singh that he has taken a firm stand. I requestthe hon. Minister to continue with this stand. Mr. Minister, you firethem; you don’t endorse their licenses, and you ask the DGCA tocancel their licenses. (Interruptions)THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): Now, Shrimati VasanthiStanley. You just put a one-sentence question.∗ Not recorded.

144Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012SHRIMATI VASANTHI STANLEY (TAMIL NADU): Sir, I have alreadyraised this issue in the Zero Hour. The passengers travelling by the AirIndia are left in the lurch. They are not being provided food and anyinformation about the next flight which they are going to get. Sir,through you, I want to know from the hon. Minister as to what stepsthe Government has taken to solve the problems of the public who aretravelling by Air India. (Interruptions)(Ends)THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): No more; no more. Mr.Dalwai, put the question. There is no time for congratulations.(Interruptions)ी हुसैन दलवई (महाराटर्) : सर, म अिजत िंसह साहब का कांगर्ेच्युलेशनकरता हूं। उन्हने बड़े कदम उठाए ह इसिलए उनको यह िमिनटर्ी दी गई है।मेरे तीन न ह। इन हड़ताली पॉयलेट्स पर Essential Services Act क्य नहींलगाते, जबिक अन्य मजदूर पर लगाते ह तो इन पर क्य नहीं लगाते ह? मएक यूिनयन का खुद अध्यक्ष हूं। हमारी यूिनयन िरकगनाइज्ड यूिनयन है। क्यायह सही बात है िक आपके डायरेक्टसर् के ऊपर सी0बी0आई0 की इंक्वायरीहै।.......(यवधान)SHRI D. RAJA: Sir,... (Interruptions)

145Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): Mr. Raja, put yourquestion. (Interruptions)SHRI PIYUSH GOYAL: Sir, I also have one question.THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): No more on this. Ican’t allow all. (Interruptions) I can’t allow all. This cannot be likethat. We have to finish it. (Interruptions) You can write to the hon.Minister; he will reply. Rajaji, if you want, you can ask the question;otherwise, there is no time.SHRI D. RAJA (TAMIL NADU): Sir, it is not only the pilots who arehaving the problem of payment of salary. It is the question of all theemployees. The airhostesses and the ground staff have not receivedtheir payments for months together. Sir, my question is, what is theassessment of the Government with regard to the strike? I want toknow whether the Government is confident to find a solution at anearly date because the Air India is a public sector company, and itsinterests will have to be protected. (Interruptions)THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): That is all. Shri N.K.Singh, put a one-sentence question. (Interruptions)

146Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012SHRI N.K. SINGH (BIHAR): Sir, I just want to ask the Minister, in thelight of the findings of the Parliamentary Committee on PublicUndertakings, COPU, which has made a scathing attack on some ofthese things, is the Minister thinking of how to prevent predatorypricing in the interim that the strike is going on so that other airlines donot fleece normal consumers?(Ends)THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): Now, Shri D.Bandyopadhyay. Just one sentence. (Interruptions)SHRI PIYUSH GOYAL: Sir, I have just one sentence. (Interruptions)SHRI KUMAR DEEPAK DAS: Sir, why not we? (Interruptions)THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): No questions.(Interruptions) No questions. (Interruptions)SHRI D. BANDYOPADHYAY: Sir, may I ask my question?(Interruptions)(Followed by 2d-kls)KLS/2D-2.55THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): It is over....(Interruptions)...

147Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012SHRI PIYUSH GOYAL: I want to know from the hon. Minister whetherthe impact of merger of Indian Airlines and Air India has been studied....(Interruptions)... Will it be reviewed considering the presentsituation? ...(Interruptions)...SHRI D. BANDYOPADHYAY: There is a attempt to discredit thenational carrier. ...(Interruptions)... There is a attempt to createconditions in which the Air India, the national carrier, is discreditedand is dismantled so that other private airlines can make more money....(Interruptions)...THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): Hon. Members, sinceShri Salman Khursheed has to go the other House I am allowing himto introduce his Bill.

148Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012THE TAMIL NADU LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL (REPEAL) BILL, 2012.THE MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE (SHRI SALMANKHURSHEED): Sir, I move:That the Bill to provide for the repeal of the Tamil NaduLegislative Council Act, 2010 and to make consequential amendmentsin the Representation of the People Act, 1950 and the Representationof the People Act, 1951 and for matters incidental and consequentialthereto, be taken into consideration.The question was proposed....(Interruptions)...SHRI TIRUCHI SIVA: Sir, we oppose the Bill. ...(Interruptions)...THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): Motion is moved....(Interruptions)... This is the listed business. ...(Interruptions)... Itis in the List of Business. ...(Interruptions)... He has moved it....(Interruptions)... Now, it is to be discussed. ...(Interruptions)...We will give time. ...(Interruptions)... I will give time....(Interruptions)... Let the Minister reply. ...(Interruptions)... It is inthe List of Business. ...(Interruptions)... You could have prevented itfrom the List of Business. ...(Interruptions)... You should have said

149Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012this in the Business Advisory Committee. ...(Interruptions)... Youcould have raised this matter in the BAC. ...(Interruptions)... Why didyou allow it at that time? ...(Interruptions)... This is the next item....(Interruptions)... If time allotted is not sufficient, you should havesaid it in the BAC. ...(Interruptions)... Nobody is bulldozing....(Interruptions)... I am not bulldozing. ...(Interruptions)... I amcalling Rangasayee Ramakrishna. ...(Interruptions)... What can I doif it is the List of Business? You have said this in the BAC....(Interruptions)...(Contd by 2E/PK)-KLS/PK/2E/3.00THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): I will give you time todiscuss. ..(Interruptions).. I will give you time to discuss...(Interruptions)..SHRI TIRUCHI SIVA: We do not have secret nexus like you people...(Interruptions)..We are always open and transparent...(Interruptions)..THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (PROF. P.J. KURIEN): The House isadjourned for ten minutes.

150Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012The House then adjourned at three of the clock.PB/2f/3.10The House reassembled at eleven minutes past three of the clock,THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (SHRI TARIQ ANWAR) in the Chair.-----...(Interruptions)...THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (SHRI TARIQ ANWAR): The House isadjourned up to 4.30 p.m........The House then adjourned at eleven minutes past three of the clock.2g/4.30/skcThe House re-assembled atthirty-one minutes past four of the clock,MR. CHAIRMAN in the Chair.---THE LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION (SHRI ARUN JAITLEY): Sir, Iwish to raise an important question.In today’s agenda, the last item that was listed was a statementby the hon. Finance Minister, Shri Pranab Mukherjee, and

151Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012clarifications on the Aircel-Maxis deal. The List of Business says, "Tobe taken up at 5.00 p.m." or "To be made before the House rises forthe day". Now, we had expressed an apprehension that somethingwould happen, and then, this item would not be taken up; and, ourworse fears have come true. So, my request would be, either itshould be taken up, or, like bills which remain to be discussed --because half the clarifications have come, the other half has to come– it may be carried forward to the next Session itself, in the presentformat.THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI PAWANKUMAR BANSAL): Sir, I would only submit that nothing should bepresumed about what happened in the House in the afternoon. Thatsaddened all of us.Sir, the hon. Finance Minister had been ready with thestatement all the time. He had been inquiring from me, and I waskeeping him informed. He was ready to come here, but we had fixed4.30 p.m. as the time for adjourning the House sine die. We canagree to it; it could be taken up later.SHRI PIYUSH GOYAL: Sir, you could take the sense of the House.

152Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012SHRI PAWAN KUMAR BANSAL: The hon. Leader of the Oppositionhas said that this could be carried forward to the next Session.(Interruptions)SHRI ARUN JAITLEY: That could be done, but the issue wouldremain. Just because there was an adjournment because of an ally ofthe Government, the issue can't come to an end.SHRI PAWAN KUMAR BANSAL: Sir, we had fixed it for 4:30 p.m. foradjournment here, and 5 p.m. in the other House. We had fixed thetime in that way, and I had come and made that submission to youearlier, Sir. We could take it up in the next Session.MR. CHAIRMAN: So, it would be taken it up in the next Session.SHRI PAWAN KUMAR BANSAL: Yes, Sir; we would take it up in thenext Session.(Ends)VALEDICTORY REMARKSMR. CHAIRMAN: Hon. Members, the 225 th Session of Rajya Sabhacomes to a close today. During this Session, the House bade farewellto 58 Members, including Shri K. Rahman Khan, Deputy Chairman.Sixty-one new Members, including two nominated Members, joined

153Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012the House during the Session. An orientation programme for the newMembers was also organized.One of our esteemed sitting Members, Shri B.B. Tiwari, passedaway on 25 thApril, 2012. After condoling his death, the Houseadjourned for the day as a mark of respect.The hon. President addressed both the Houses of Parliament,assembled together on the 13 th May, 2012, which was followed by adiscussion on the Motion of Thanks on the President’s Address.The Railway and the General Budgets, including theAppropriation Bills and the Finance Bill, for the year 2012-13, werediscussed and returned during this Session. In all, 22 GovernmentBills were passed or returned during the Session. Working of threeMinistries was discussed. Short Duration Discussions on threeissues, including the issue of 'Reservation for SCs and STs inPromotions during Service', 'Problem of Foodgrains Storage in theCountry’ and 'Normalization of relations with Pakistan and issuesrelating to Human Rights Violations in Pakistan’, were taken up.(contd. at 2h/hk)

154Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012HK/2h/4.35MR. CHAIRMAN (CONTD.): In addition, two Calling Attention noticeswere also taken up.A unique feature of this Session was discussion on two StatutoryMotions, a device which was used after a very long time. Similarly,twelve Short Notice Questions and two Half-an-Hour Discussionswere also taken up. This is indicative of the alertness of the Membersin using various parliamentary devices. A large number of SpecialMentions were made and several very significant matters were raisedwith the Permission of the Chair. I have asked the Secretary-Generalto make available the statistical information relating to the Session. Iam glad to report that during this Session the House has worked to itsoptimal capacity. Some time was lost in disruptions; many StarredQuestions could not be taken up. We do need to introspect on thedistinction between dissent, remonstration, agitation and disruption.I take this opportunity to thank the Leader of the House, theLeader of the Opposition, the leaders of various parties and groupsand the hon. Members for the cooperation extended by them in theoverall functioning of the House. I also thank the then Deputy

155Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-22.05.2012Chairman, the Members on the Panel of Vice-Chairman and theofficers and staff of the Secretariat for their help and cooperation.Now, before we adjourn the House sine die, we will have theNational Song.(The National Song "Vande Mataram" was then played.)MR. CHAIRMAN: The House stands adjourned sine die.---The House then adjourned sine die at thirty-eight minutespast four of the clock.