Women offenders: after the Corston Report - United Kingdom ...
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Ev 20 Justice Committee: Evidence15 January 2013 Peter Kilgarriff, Jackie Russell, Sharon Spurling and Joy DoalQ107 Mr Llwyd: Can you say a brief word aboutfunding before I ask Ms Doal to say a word?Sharon Spurling: You will know that <strong>the</strong> fundinghas changed over <strong>the</strong> last three years. It was with <strong>the</strong>Ministry of Justice originally, <strong>the</strong>n moved to NOMS,and this year it has moved to Northumbria ProbationTrust. I want to say at <strong>the</strong> outset, in relation to <strong>the</strong>70% reduction in reoffending, that we did ano<strong>the</strong>rsample in 2011. We sampled women on suspendedsentence orders who had worked with us. Not one ofthose women went back into custody. However, justbefore Christmas, I received a letter from NorthumbriaProbation Trust saying that <strong>the</strong>y had cut our money andour grant funding would end on 31 March this year.When I look at <strong>the</strong> consultation document“Transforming Rehabilitation”, it says, “We’re goingto do this with prime providers, and that’s going tohappen before 2014.” When I look at that, and I hearwhat is happening to o<strong>the</strong>r women’s communityprojects—<strong>the</strong>y are being rolled on, and some might goout to tender; I understand that our pot of money willbe going out to tender soon—I get a bit confused aboutwhat is happening. On <strong>the</strong> one hand, it looks as if <strong>the</strong>whole of support for <strong>offenders</strong> is going out to tender,but, equally, <strong>the</strong> trust seems to be putting that moneyout for tender now. So we’ve got 10 weeks.Q108 Mr Llwyd: So you are supposed to put in atender, presumably.Sharon Spurling: Yes, presumably—for a service tostart on 1 April.Joy Doal: We are in a very different position becausewe are in a city. It is quite different being in an urbanarea. Because of that, we are able to develop a physicalone‐stop shop. We have quite a large centre, whichused to be a school. As we have gradually grown wehave built o<strong>the</strong>r bits on to it, but we are able to attract arange of partners to work with us. We have two fur<strong>the</strong>reducation colleges that come in and deliver <strong>the</strong>ircourses with us. The homeless charity Crisis deliverscourses and provides a mental health practitioner oneday a week. We have drug treatment like Addaction,<strong>the</strong> A-Team for alcohol and a full range of partners.Birmingham Settlement provides debt and benefitadvice two days a week within <strong>the</strong> centre. We haveco‐located offender managers and a co‐located mentalhealth practitioner now as well. That is a massiveadvantage, as you can imagine, because it is all <strong>the</strong>rein one place.This all came out of some prison inreach workthat we were doing in <strong>the</strong> days when <strong>the</strong>re werewomen at Brockhill. We saw that in <strong>the</strong> first 48hours when women came out of prison <strong>the</strong>y had somany appointments to go to. They would be runningacross <strong>the</strong> city to go to different appointments—<strong>the</strong>irprobation appointment, and going to this and going tothat. That was when <strong>the</strong> idea arose to put everything inone place. The woman has everything pretty much inone place and she can attend everything. <strong>Women</strong> werefailing in those first 48 hours just because of having tomanage <strong>the</strong> appointments. The women we are talkingabout tend not to have Filofaxes and diaries, or to haveeverything in order. Oftentimes <strong>the</strong>y do not rememberwhat <strong>the</strong>y are doing tomorrow. There are hugeadvantages in having everything in one place. We getthose services in completely free of charge, because itis meeting an alternative funding stream. The collegehas a target to reach a hard-to-reach client group, soit is able to deliver its service free. Equally, Crisis isfunded somewhere else to provide those services, so itis a win-win. The probation service is now giving us agrant to provide something. Obviously, it does not payfor everything, but <strong>the</strong> added value to that probationgrant is huge. It could not provide all those servicesacross <strong>the</strong> board.The advantage of having such things as a crèche onsite is massive. Those women can come, leave <strong>the</strong>irchildren and have that support. If you have to go andsign on and do your supervision appointment at aprobation office, <strong>the</strong>re isn’t even a box of toys or a nicewaiting room. You are sitting in a waiting room withall <strong>the</strong> male <strong>offenders</strong>. Most of <strong>the</strong> women have beenvictims of domestic violence and/or sexual abuse, rape,child sexual abuse and so on. Sitting <strong>the</strong>re with a groupof male <strong>offenders</strong> is not a nice environment in whichto be waiting for your appointment. Simple little thingslike being able to come into a women-only space andreceive support are so important. To create that safespace has been key.We are able to do so much more outside <strong>the</strong> funding weget from NOMS currently, because we can attract o<strong>the</strong>rfunding. We go to four women’s prisons on a regularbasis and provide through-<strong>the</strong>-gate support, but that isfunded by <strong>the</strong> Big Lottery on a four-year grant, and itgoes down each year. My problem is that, when it goesdown each year, I cannot get that o<strong>the</strong>r slice refundedbecause, rightly, <strong>the</strong> <strong>Corston</strong> coalition are independentfunders. I am writing bids to all <strong>the</strong>ir pots and <strong>the</strong>y say,“No, it’s a statutory responsibility.” You can understandthat, but, unless <strong>the</strong> statutory responsibility groupsteps up, that is threatened. Our crèche is threatened,because we have Children in Need funding to run <strong>the</strong>children’s work that is finishing, and we have beenrefused a fur<strong>the</strong>r grant. So that is under threat as well.Q109 Mr Llwyd: Overall, what would you say <strong>the</strong>future holds in terms of <strong>the</strong> percentage loss of funding?In o<strong>the</strong>r words, how much are you short from <strong>the</strong> nextfinancial year onwards?Joy Doal: Our budget last year was about £750,000,and I have managed to secure nearly £400,000.Q110 Mr Llwyd: So <strong>the</strong> shortfall is pretty substantial.Joy Doal: Yes.Q111 Mr Llwyd: And you are still working on it.Joy Doal: Yes—madly.Jackie Russell: The probation contribution to Anawimhas already been identified as going down by 17.7%.Originally it was going to go down by 30%, and Joywas asked to put toge<strong>the</strong>r a proposal based on a 30%reduction. The reality is that <strong>the</strong>y are now saying it isa 17.7% reduction. Probation’s budget is just a part ofthat £700,000.Q112 Mr Llwyd: But surely it is a false economy,because <strong>the</strong> work you do is saving money, isn’t it,when you analyse it pound for pound?Jackie Russell: Yes, of course it is.