DEALER GUIDEALABAMAAdventure TrikesDothan, AL(334) 792-7444ARIZONASouthwest Trikes LLCPhoenix, AZ(602) 374-3510ARKANSASArkansas Trike CenterClarksville, AR(479) 754-4326COLORADOUnique RidesFt. 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The previous owner useda car wash <strong>to</strong> clean the <strong>Wing</strong>, and that adds <strong>to</strong>the cause <strong>of</strong> it sticking.Bren<strong>to</strong>n HigdemGWRRA #119682Sherwood, ArkansasBren<strong>to</strong>n, your problem is addressed inHonda Service Bulletin GL1800 #15, RevisedOc<strong>to</strong>ber, 2007. Your ‘03 model likely isn’t coveredby warranty any longer, but the parts andprocedures in the bulletin still apply. See yourdealer for assistance.StuConcerns About Mechanics’ KnowledgeHi Stu, thanks for all the great info youshare with us each month. The letter in therecent <strong>Wing</strong> <strong>World</strong> regarding heated grips andseats (“2006 Gold <strong>Wing</strong> Heated Grips andSeat Problem”, p. 26, January 2009) promptedme <strong>to</strong> write <strong>to</strong> you. I have been thinking aboutdoing so for some time.My <strong>Wing</strong> is a 2007 Navi model. I bought itas a second owner with 1,000 miles on it earlierthis year [2008]. When I tried the heaters,they were not working. Since the cycle wasgoing <strong>to</strong> visit my mechanic anyway for someother matters, I asked him <strong>to</strong> check on theheaters. My suspicion was that the units hadbecome unplugged while the CB was beinginstalled, prior <strong>to</strong> my purchasing the bike.My mechanic showed me another <strong>Wing</strong> onthe lot that had been there for a week with thesame problem. He had been unable <strong>to</strong> resolveit. He <strong>to</strong>ld me a Honda rep was due in <strong>to</strong> lookRetract-A-Trike The Best Trike Alternative,Cornering <strong>of</strong> a bike - Stability <strong>of</strong> a trike.NOBODY WANTS TO RIDE ATRIKE FAST IN THE CORNERS!$5,995.00 Kit Priceat it. He said that when he learned what waswrong and how <strong>to</strong> fix it, he would have mebring back my machine <strong>to</strong> also be fixed.When I returned <strong>to</strong> pick up the <strong>Wing</strong> forthe <strong>issue</strong>s, he happily <strong>to</strong>ld me that the heaterproblem had been resolved. Since he had beeninstalling a Kisan brake light flasher and hadremoved the seat <strong>to</strong> do so, he tried the heaterconnec<strong>to</strong>r under the seat. He had found that byunfastening and re-fastening the connection,there was a definite click when re-attaching.He knew right then that the connection had notpreviously been fully closed.This experience leads me <strong>to</strong> the commentsI was going <strong>to</strong> write <strong>to</strong> you about, prior <strong>to</strong> seeingthis last “Workbench” letter, and <strong>to</strong> a subjectyou confronted in your reply <strong>to</strong> the lettercited above.I find, in every Honda dealership I visit,that there is a close <strong>to</strong> <strong>to</strong>tal lack <strong>of</strong> knowledgeabout the electronics on the <strong>Wing</strong>. No oneknows anything about the CB units, other thanhow <strong>to</strong> follow instructions and install one (ifyou’re lucky). As stated, the heaters are anothermystery <strong>to</strong> them. The GPS unit is a completemystery <strong>to</strong> all, and this even goes beyondthe dealers.When I looked at the data on my GPS, Ifound the maps and programs are several yearsold. I spoke <strong>to</strong> a few dealers about getting anupgrade. No one knew anything. I contactedGarmin, where I was <strong>to</strong>ld that “This is aHonda-controlled unit, and we really do notknow anything [about it]”. Once someone atGarmin <strong>to</strong>ld me there had been an updatemade in late 2007 and nothing since then andadvised me <strong>to</strong> await the next update. But whenI called back some months later, anotherGarmin rep <strong>to</strong>ld me there had never been anupdate since 2005 and that rep knew nothing<strong>of</strong> when one was due. (I have also found themaps on the <strong>Wing</strong> <strong>to</strong> be very deceptive andout-<strong>of</strong>-date. I have two units in our au<strong>to</strong>s, bothFor the GL1500 & GL1800,other makes also available.Approximatelyhalf the cos<strong>to</strong>f a full trikeconversion888-452-2552See video at www.retract-a-trike.comASK YOUR DEALER ABOUT RETRACT-A-TRIKE40 <strong>Wing</strong> <strong>World</strong>
Garmin, and get very different instructionsover similar routes from the <strong>Wing</strong> unit. Manytimes, the <strong>Wing</strong> unit has tried <strong>to</strong> send me downnon-existent roads and past the appropriateones. It frequently tells me <strong>to</strong> turn on a roadonce I have already passed it by a few dozenfeet. All in all, the unit needs updating andimproving. If there is information out theresomewhere, I have been unable <strong>to</strong> find it.)One <strong>of</strong> my friends is an electronics repairmanas well as an avid mo<strong>to</strong>rcyclist. He <strong>to</strong>ldme words <strong>of</strong> wisdom: “The guys at the dealersare mechanics, not electronics techs”. Hondareally needs <strong>to</strong> address this problem and trainpeople at each dealership if they are going <strong>to</strong>sell cycles with advanced electronics on them.Any help you can <strong>of</strong>fer in pushing Honda inthis direction would be greatly appreciated bymany <strong>of</strong> us. Thanks for “listening”.Richard AxelbergGWRRA #290171Jacksonville, FloridaHi Richard. Like you, I suspect many problemswith the seat and grip heaters are related<strong>to</strong> improperly connected wiring terminals. Butthere’s another possibility. The heaters havethermis<strong>to</strong>rs in circuit. Those are devices thatprevent the seats from overheating by limiting<strong>current</strong> in warm ambient conditions. So if abike had been removed from a warm garage,the seats may not begin feeling warm till thethermis<strong>to</strong>rs adjusted <strong>to</strong> the colder ambient temperatures.Today’s cars and bikes have replaced mos<strong>to</strong>f the mechanical ignition and fueling adjustmentswith electronics. Beyond that, there’sABS, GPS, and a host <strong>of</strong> other electronics thatdon’t lend themselves <strong>to</strong> intuitive diagnosis. So<strong>to</strong>day’s technician needs <strong>to</strong> be electricallysavvy. Your friend the electronics tech is spo<strong>to</strong>n, as our article last month about the burntwiring pins illustrates. Unfortunately, the situationisn’t likely <strong>to</strong> improve—not ever. You askfor my help in pushing Honda <strong>to</strong> provide electronicstraining at each dealership? I’ve beendoing just that for at least 8 years, since theGL1800’s introduction. But training isn’t conductedat the dealerships, it’s conducted in corporateclassrooms in training centers locatedaround the country. It’s also available <strong>to</strong> techson-line. I’ve audited several <strong>of</strong> Honda’s weeklongtraining courses, and I think they’re verygood - given what they’re trying <strong>to</strong> accomplish.But Honda <strong>current</strong>ly has no way <strong>to</strong> force atech <strong>to</strong> attend these courses. Even if they did,many <strong>of</strong> the techs I observed at one <strong>of</strong> thoseelectrical training courses looked like deercaught in the headlights after the first fewhours <strong>of</strong> instruction. And it’s not like theinstruction material was rocket science. It wasdesigned <strong>to</strong> allow a person with little knowledge<strong>of</strong> electrical principles <strong>to</strong> diagnose problems.There were some very sharp techs whocaught on quickly. But given the low generalWinners <strong>of</strong>Randy Powell’s“GPS vs. Maps” ContestThe winner <strong>of</strong> <strong>Wing</strong> <strong>World</strong> ContributingWriter Randy Powell’s “GPS vs. MAPS”email contest (See November 2008,“GPS vs. Maps:A Map Lover’s Viewpoint”, page54) and the $30 gift certificate <strong>to</strong> CrackerBarrel is Kevin Carpenter from Sierra Vista,Arizona. Kevin’s winning entry has been postedon Randy’s website, www.ride2up.com.You may read Kevin’s s<strong>to</strong>ry, along with thes<strong>to</strong>ries <strong>of</strong> the two runners-up, online there.Kevin’s s<strong>to</strong>ry was about a life-saving adventurewhile ice fishing in Michigan years ago whenGPS units were not as technologicallyadvanced as <strong>to</strong>day.For his personally held contest, Randy says,“I received over 75 emails for the contest, and 95percent <strong>of</strong> them were s<strong>to</strong>ries about a mistake their GPS made. But every single s<strong>to</strong>ry said theystill liked their GPS unit.”Randy also notes that Tom Mixon, a GWRRA Member from Panama City, Florida, emailedhim with an <strong>of</strong>fer for a second place prize:Tom’s son Chris has donated a weekend camping passand lobster dinner at the Meadowbrook Camping area in Phippsburg, Maine, along with a completelobster dinner cooked onsite.This second-place prize was awarded <strong>to</strong> Don Mallinson <strong>of</strong> Washing<strong>to</strong>n, Illinois. His s<strong>to</strong>ry alsoappears on Randy’s website.“Thanks Tom and Chris, and thanks <strong>to</strong> everyone who sent in your great s<strong>to</strong>ries,” Randy says.●March 2009 41
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