The dist<strong>in</strong>ction between the shape and the structure is important here. It isnot for noth<strong>in</strong>g that I marked here someth<strong>in</strong>g which is a torus, is a toruseven though its shape does not allow this to appear. Is the shape someth<strong>in</strong>gwhich lends itself to suggestion? Here is the question that I am pos<strong>in</strong>g, andthat I pose while advanc<strong>in</strong>g the primacy of the structure.Here it is difficult for me not to put forward the fact that the Kle<strong>in</strong> bottle,this old Kle<strong>in</strong> bottle that I made so much of, if I remember correctly, <strong>in</strong> theFour fundamental concepts of psychoanalysis, this old Kle<strong>in</strong> bottle has <strong>in</strong>reality that shape there. It is strictly noth<strong>in</strong>g other than this, except for thefact that for it to become a bottle we correct it <strong>in</strong> this way (<strong>in</strong> red), namelythat we have made it come back <strong>in</strong> the follow<strong>in</strong>g shape, that we have madeit come back <strong>in</strong> such a way that we no longer comprehend anyth<strong>in</strong>g about itsessential nature. Is there not effectively, <strong>in</strong> the fact of call<strong>in</strong>g it a bottle, isthere not here a falsification, a falsification with respect to the fact that onlyits presentation here <strong>in</strong> green is the someth<strong>in</strong>g that precisely allows it to beimmediately grasped the way <strong>in</strong> which the junction of the front is made withthe back, namely everyth<strong>in</strong>g that is cut out <strong>in</strong> this surface, on condition ofmak<strong>in</strong>g it complete, and that is aga<strong>in</strong> a question: what is meant by mak<strong>in</strong>g acut which <strong>in</strong>volves the whole of the surface?These are the questions that I ask myself and that I hope to be able toresolve this year, I mean that this br<strong>in</strong>gs us to someth<strong>in</strong>g fundamental as30
egards the structure of the body, or more exactly of the body considered asstructure. That the body is able to present all sorts of aspects which are ofpure shape, that just now I made dependent on suggestion, this is what isimportant for me. The difference of the shape, of the shape <strong>in</strong>sofar as it isalways more or less suggested with the structure, that is what I would likethis year to highlight for you.You must excuse me. This, I must say, is assuredly not the best th<strong>in</strong>g that Icould have brought to you this morn<strong>in</strong>g. I had, as you see, I had the greatworry, I am flounder<strong>in</strong>g, - there is a case for say<strong>in</strong>g, it is not the first time - Iam flounder<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong> what I have to put forward to you and that is why I amleav<strong>in</strong>g to give you the opportunity to have someone who will be thismorn<strong>in</strong>g a better orator than I, I mean Ala<strong>in</strong> Didier who is here present, andwhom I <strong>in</strong>vite to come to tell you what he has drawn from certa<strong>in</strong> data ofm<strong>in</strong>e, which are the draw<strong>in</strong>gs of writ<strong>in</strong>g and which he would really like toshare with you.- Ala<strong>in</strong> Didier: Good. I must say first of all that Dr <strong>Lacan</strong> is tak<strong>in</strong>g mecompletely by surprise, that I was not warned that he proposed to give methe floor to try to take up aga<strong>in</strong> a po<strong>in</strong>t about which I spoke to him thesedays, of which I should tell you right away that personally I am not mak<strong>in</strong>gany articulation whatsoever with what we are be<strong>in</strong>g told at present. I senseit confusedly perhaps, but it is not....do not expect therefore me to articulatewhat I am go<strong>in</strong>g to say with the problems <strong>in</strong> topology about which Dr <strong>Lacan</strong>is talk<strong>in</strong>g at the moment. The problem that I was try<strong>in</strong>g to articulate, is totry to articulate <strong>in</strong> a rather consequential way with what Dr <strong>Lacan</strong>contributed about the montage of the drive, to try start<strong>in</strong>g from the problemof the circuit of the drive, different torsions which appear to me can belocated between the subject and the Other, different moments <strong>in</strong> which twoor three torsions are articulated.For me this rema<strong>in</strong>s a little hypothetical, but anyway I am go<strong>in</strong>g to try toretrace for you how th<strong>in</strong>gs can like that be put <strong>in</strong> place. So then the drive,the <strong>in</strong>st<strong>in</strong>ctual circuit from which I will start, <strong>in</strong> order to try to advance, will31
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