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Seminar XXIV Final Sessions 1 - Lacan in Ireland

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is itself a hole and <strong>in</strong> a certa<strong>in</strong> way represents the body. But that this shouldbe confirmed by the fact that this Moebius strip which I already chose toexpress the fact that the conjunction of a front and a back is someth<strong>in</strong>gwhich symbolises rather well the union of the unconscious and theconscious, is someth<strong>in</strong>g which is worthwhile remember<strong>in</strong>g.Can we consider a sphere as a hole <strong>in</strong> space? This is obviously verysuspect. It is very suspect because this pre-supposes, it pre-supposessometh<strong>in</strong>g that is not self-evident, the plung<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong>to space. It is equally truefor the torus, and that is why it is by divid<strong>in</strong>g the torus <strong>in</strong>to two sheets, if Ican express myself <strong>in</strong> that way, <strong>in</strong>to two sheets capable of mak<strong>in</strong>g a doubleturn, that we rediscover the surface, namely, someth<strong>in</strong>g that to our eyes ismore assured, is more assured <strong>in</strong> any case to found what is <strong>in</strong>volved <strong>in</strong> ahole.It is clear that it is not today or yesterday that I made use of theseconcatenations. Already to symbolise the circuit, the cutt<strong>in</strong>g of desire anddemand, I made use of this, namely, of the torus. I had dist<strong>in</strong>guished twomodes of it, namely, what went around the torus, and on the other hand whatwent around the central hole. In this respect the identification of thedemand to what is presented like this, and of desire to what is presented likethat, was altogether significant.There is someth<strong>in</strong>g that I po<strong>in</strong>ted out the last time, namely, this, whichconsists <strong>in</strong> a torus, with<strong>in</strong> a torus. If you mark these two tori, the two of21

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