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Seminar XXIV Final Sessions 1 - Lacan in Ireland

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and to put that for you <strong>in</strong> black and white, I am go<strong>in</strong>g to show you what is atstake when one speaks about structure.It is a matter of someth<strong>in</strong>g like that, namely, a holed torus – this I owe toPierre Soury – I mean that it is easy to complete this torus; you clearly seethat here there is, as one might say, the edge, if one can express oneself <strong>in</strong>this way, so imprecisely, the edge of the hole which is <strong>in</strong> the torus and thatall of that is the body of the torus. [Fig IX-1, IX-2].It is not enough to draw this torus like that. For one sees that by hol<strong>in</strong>g thistorus at the same time one makes a hole <strong>in</strong> another torus. This is what isproper to the torus, for it is just as legitimate to draw the hole here and tomake the torus which is, as I might say, l<strong>in</strong>ked with that one. This <strong>in</strong>deed iswhy one can say that by hol<strong>in</strong>g a torus, one holes at the same time anothertorus which is the one which has with it a cha<strong>in</strong>-like relationship.So then I am go<strong>in</strong>g to depict for you what one can draw here <strong>in</strong> terms of astructure which you see that by draw<strong>in</strong>g it <strong>in</strong> two colours, I th<strong>in</strong>k it issufficiently evident that here, namely, the green <strong>in</strong> question, is <strong>in</strong>side the redtorus; but that on the contrary here you can see that the second torus isoutside. But that is not a second torus, s<strong>in</strong>ce what is at stake is always thesame figure, but a figure which shows itself able to slide <strong>in</strong>side what I willcall the red torus, which slides while turn<strong>in</strong>g and which realises this torusl<strong>in</strong>ked to the first one.106

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