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companies going in and putting political pressure on the nations to sign over all their natural resources, basically theirpopulations. Then the country never pays back the debt and that's by design. Then these global corporations literallybecome the rulers of the countries and they put in puppet dictatorships. This is the New World Order at its worst, frankly.Greg Palast, the book, the new book that you have written. I just completed reading it. One of my staff, snuck off with it afew weeks ago and I just got it about a week ago. It's being well received. We talked on the phone about it privately. It'sbeing received very well by conservatives. In fact, one of the listeners called in when you were on C-Span a few weeksago and the opened the phones and said that they were getting a little frustrated because all of the conservative werecalling in supporting you. Is that pleasing, to see that conservatives will actually, many of them grassroots, listen todocumented evidence of corruption, even by so-called conservative leaders?GP: Yeah, well, I think that people are looking for real, inside hard fact information. In fact, C-Span was really stunnedbecause they have a Republican call-in line and a Democrat call-in line and whether it was Democrats or Republicans,they got nothing but positive words for my work. Because people are just looking for information. Look, I'll give you mypolitical philosophy, very little of it, you know, I give you the information, I give you the dots, you connect the dotsyourself. You can use your own judgement and come up with your own philosophy and vote the way you want. Democrator Republican, I don't care. Because the thing is that, unfortunately, there is no party with clean hands here. And this is abig problem. Like you say, it looks like the Bush family, in particular, seems to have a big problem keeping their personalpiggy bank and national politics and their international foreign policy separate. That's a big problem.AJ: Well, they are an incredibly old money family and they are very good at covering that up in the press. It's not bad tobe wealthy, filthy rich, but when you sit there and act like you're just a good 'ole boy out there in Crawford walkingaround with a hay bale, when you're a blue blood connected to the British Royal family, according to Reuters. I mean it'sreally a joke - the whole line they try to sell the people.GP: Yeah, I know, the pork rinds thing, you know - Poppy Bush is about as preppy as you can get - you can imagine himspitting out those pork rinds after he gets off camera. It's really kind of a joke. But, you know, the things I've beenworking on. I was just talking tonight. And, by the way, just so you know, just because they may say that I am out to getthem, one of the Bush family corporations that they were connected to, Barrick Gold Mining of Canada, did sue my paperover reports that they didn't really like. Not many people in America know that after Poppy Bush left the White House, hewent to work for Canadian Gold Mining Corporation. A real group of characters that, believe me, they don't want any oneexposing what their operations are or that Bush has been helping them. So Daddy Bush went to work for these CanadianGold Mining operation and one of the things, before he left office, Daddy Bush, his administration set up an expeditedprocedure for gold mining companies to lay claims to gold mine properties. And his company, the company he ultimatelywent to, Barrick Gold Mining, through this special expedited procedure he set up, was able to lay claim to the largest goldmine in the World, which is in Nevada, with $10 billion worth of gold ore in it. And they paid $10,000 to the U.S. Treasuryto make that claim.AJ: So, $10,000 for $10 billion, that's another great return. And guaranteed that was basically grabbed from other peoplewho probably already had claims on it. Amazing. Greg Palast, stay right there, we've got to break again. Long segmentcoming up. The website for our guest is gregpalast.com..they are called Globalists. They control the IMF and World Bank,the World Health Organization, the World Trade Organization. They are breaking down borders, national sovereignty,destroying our jobs. Globalism is not good for the people but it's good for a tiny clique - what Carroll Quigley ofGeorgetown called, and he was an adherent of it,a supporter of it, the Angelo American Establishment. And we are talkingto Greg Palast, again from the BBC nightly news show, Newsnight. Investigative reporter, best-selling author, the newbook out - The Best Democracy Money Can Buy. For people who are having trouble grasping, why should I care if ourgovernment has sweetheart deals with the Bushes and others, to go in and blow out people's economies and turn off theirwater and seize their power stations and "that's just what we do around here." There are doing it to you, America. Theyare doing it to you through so-called deregulation of the power companies. It's not deregulation. It's consolidation. It'srigging of the deals. And they use semantics by changing the meaning of words to confuse you. This government is justabsolutely predatory and it's run by just a few corporations and banks. And Greg Palast has the documents. Greg, I wantto get into election 2000. I want to get into government prior knowledge of September 11th and Bush calling off the FBIand defense intel and you talked to top CIA folks telling them not to stop al Qaeda. This is on the record. We had DavidSchippers on, and Col. Roberts, and it's come out now in the Wall Street Journal and a bunch of other publications afteryou reported on it. And we were here reporting on it as well, even before September 11th. The Wall Street Journal, backin March of last year, had called for Bush, both Senior and Junior to get out of bed with the Carlyle Group, and I want toget into that and get your expertise. A lot of things to cover here but going back to this IMF, World Bank situation,blowing out these economies, setting up the fall, how do we as Americans counter thatbecause it sounds so big, youknow, how can we ever deal with it? What do we do, expose the corruption and call for Grand Juries to indict? What do wedo?GP: Well, I mean part of it is to tell the truth on them. I mean we have got to get the information out of them. It's harderand harder. I mean I was horrified this week, PBS is running a three-hour, basically it's an infomercial for globalizationand, what you would call and actually what Poppy Bush titled the New World Order, it's about howwonderful it all is, and that anyone who protests obviously just doesn't understand the future. This is three hours on thePublic Broadcast System, subsidized by government money but where does the rest of the money come from? The entirebudget for this film came from British Petroleum. British Petroleum. My network, BBC, British Broadcasting Company, Iwould lose my job if I took money from British Petroleum. And here they are the proud producers of basically what is apropaganda film. It's like...AJ: So, what is life like under globalism? We are seeing it. We all have a great hamburger job and everything is shipped infrom third World countries where slaves build widgets. 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