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All right, I am enthused and sufficiently tempted to let more of the cat out ofmy bag:Here we go:It is very clear acc to scholarship that CHRISTIANITY IS THE TEACHINGS OF JESUSACCORDING TO PAUL.Paul actually re-defined Christianity, to be precise.While it is fair to say that Paul deserves praise for saving the teachings ofJesus to end in the bhauma ijya-dhih provincialism of James, Peter and the restof the original disciples in Jerusalem (who were not able to see Christianity gobeyond a reformed Judaism) Paul unfortunately did not stop there butincorporated various definitely non-sanatan-dharma elements into his preachingfor which there is no authority acc. to standard spiritual knowledge, Torah orVeda. Foremost: the whole Soteriology of Christianity - The Salvation though thecross concept (A concept which of course Srila Prabhupada totally rejected.)Bombay April 2,1977:Tamala Krishna: He says, "What is the actual meaning of the sacrifice of thecross, Jesus dying on the cross?"Prabhupada: IT HAS NO MEANING. The people were so rascal that they attempted okill him. Because he was speaking of God. So we can understand the pollution ofthe then society, how intelligent they were. He had to deal with such rascalsthat he was speaking about God and the result is that they wanted to kill himfirst. He preached, "Thou shalt not kill," and they killed him first. This istheir intelligence. Now people are advanced. THOSE DOCTRINES, THEY ARE NOT...(indistinct). THAT'S ALL.(just see how precisely Srila Prabhupada captured the point/ pda)Tamala Krishna: He says, "Did Jesus died on the cross to redeem all the sins ofthe world?"Prabhupada: This is another sinful thought Jesus has taken contract for riddingyour sinful activities.(!!!) That's a plea, what is called plea for the sinners,that they will continue acting sinfully, and Christ will take contract tocounteract. This is most sinful conviction. Instead of stopping sinfulactivities, we have given contract to Jesus Christ to counteract it.Tamala Krishna: So these people are not actually getting free of their sinsunless they stop sinning.Prabhupada: Then what is the use of his preaching? They will continue sinfulactivities, and Jesus Christ will take contract for saving them. How nonsenseidea this is! Bhavananda, do you think it is good idea?Bhavananda: Not a good idea, Srila Prabhupada .Prabhupada: Nonsense rascals. These people should be immediately hanged. "Ourreligion is very good." What is that? "We cannot stop acting sinfully, andChrist has taken contract. He will save us." How rascaldom it is! Namno baladpapa-buddhi. Nama-aparadha. "I am chanting Hare Krishna, so no sinful actionwill be." It is like that. That means "I will continue my sinful activities andbecome a Christian, become a Vaishnava, become a chanter."Tamala Krishna: Nama-aparadha.And as this were not enough, later Srila Prabhupada puts all this in writing ina letter to Francois Pierre:"The answers to your questions are as follows:
1) Yes, the message of Jesus is universally applicable. Why not? Jesus says,'Thou shalt not kill.' This is applicable to all. But all Christians areviolating this law. So where is a Christian? In my opinion there is not a singleChristian.(!!!!!) Do they follow all ten commandments?2) We accept Jesus Christ as shakti avesa avatar, an empowered incarnation ofGod.3) The Bible should be accepted literally and not symbolically. There is nosymbolical meaning of the sacrifice on the cross. (!!!!!) The people were sorascal. They attempted to kill him because he was speaking of God. We canunderstand the position of that society. He had to deal with such rascals. Hepreached 'Thou shalt not kill,' and they killed him. The argument that Jesusdied to redeem us of sins is simply another sinful argument. (!!!!!) That Jesushas taken contract to redeem your sins is simply a plea of the sinners. Theycontinue sinning and expect Christ to take the contract to freedom. It is mostsinful. Instead of actually stopping sins, they contract with Jesus Christ.These people should be immediately hanged.4) Regarding Christ coming again, for the time being, you follow hisinstructions. Then if he comes it will be all right. Regarding the position ofour movement if Christ were to come again, that we shall see when he comes. 'Theend of the world' means that the world will be devastated. Just like you have abody and it will be finished, similarly the whole world body will be devastated.Creation, maintenance and annihilation. Nasha in Sanskrit means devastated.Last:5) "There is no difference between a pure Christian and a sincere devotee ofKrishna......"In the same vain the Last Supper is actually described in its EARLIEST ACCOUNTSin Paul's letter to the Corintians only. It is therefore ante-dating the Gospelnarrations by four decades and due to the development of a Christianity acc toPaul it found it's way into the Gospel accounts by the pious scribes.In that sense it is noteworthy that this last Supper described in the Gospelswas NOT celebrated in the original Church of Jerusalem or anywhere else in theUr-kirche. Here is the original paulinic account, note specifically the firstsentence:"... For I received from the Lord what I also passed on to you: (So here whereit comes from / Prithu) The Lord Jesus, on the night he was betrayed, tookbread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and said, "This is my body,which is for you; do this in remembrance of me." In the same way, after supperhe took the cup, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in my blood; do this,whenever you drink it, in remembrance of me."(1 COR 11:23-25)Historically then there are three stages in the development of Christianitywhich will, when clearly understood, will give us the basic understanding ofthe Christian phenomena:The first stage is being Jesus and the twelve, the whole itinerant traveling andpreaching phase with "look at the birds in the sky, they do not sow and do notreap etc., the Sermon of the Mount etc., thou shall love they Lord etc. Andbecome as perfect as your father is perfect. Change of heart is at the basis ofthese teachings, leave the world behind, let the dead bury the dead... It is the"Wander Radicalismus" of the Unmarried, roaming the country and preaching torepent and to love God with all thy soul. Predictably this lead to considerabletensions with the Sekten Experten of the Jewish Orthodoxy and ultimately pavedthe way to cross. Those were the early days...The next phase is the after Easter phase: The Jerusalem Church around James andPeter, now often married and settled, who tried to come to terms with the Jesus
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