nose and mala, kanthi, also." Sahaja bhajana kache mamu sange lana pare bhalo:"And he's, he has become a Vaisnava by illicit sex." This is stated byBhaktivinoda Thakura. "Here is a Kali's chela. He has dressed like a Vaisnava,but he is doing his bhajan with illicit sex." Sahaje bhajana kache mamu sangelana pare bhalo. You know? There is a class of sahajiyas?Bali Mardana: Yes.Prabhupada: Yes. Vaisnavas. Just like, dress like Rupa Gosvami, loincloth, and,but three dozen women behind him.Bali Mardana: Yes, gopis.Prabhupada: So Bhaktivinoda Thakura: "Here is a disciple of Kali. He has tilakaand he has kunti and he's doing this nonsense." Eita kalir chela. (SP morningwalk July 13, 1974)Comment by Narakara dasNovember 12, <strong>1995</strong>Well, on reading bhakta Jan's question regarding "scriptural reference to ourfour regulative principles," I immediatelly recalled one verse in connection:loke vyavayamisa-madya-sevanitya hi jantor na hi tatra codanavyavasthitis tesu vivaha-yajnasura-grahairasu nivrttir istaTRANSLATION: In this material world the conditioned soul is always inclined tosex, meat-eating and intoxication. Therefore religious scriptures never actuallyencourage such activities. Although the scriptural injunctions provide for sexthrough sacred marriage, for meat-eating through sacrificial offerings and forintoxication through the acceptance of ritual cups of wine, such ceremonies aremeant for the ultimate purpose of renunciation. (SB 11.5.11)Srila Prabhupada in one lecture comments:In the sastra it is said, loke vyavayamisa-madya-seva nityas-tu jantor na hitatra cadana. In the sastras, there is recommendation that "You can eat meatunder certain certain condition. You can drink under certain conditions. You canmarry, sex life, under certain conditions." Loke vyavaya amisa madya-seva.Vyavaya means sex; and amisa means meat eating; and madya-seva, drinking,intoxication. So sastra says that "Everyone, every living entity, has got ageneral tendency for these things: sex life, meat-eating and drinking." Thenwhere is the need of sastric injunction? That sastric injunction is there not toencourage them, but to restrict them. In the human life, pravrttir esam bhutanamnrvttes tu maha-phalam.You have got a tendency for sex life. Take for example. This is your tendency.But if you can check it, that is your success. Not that because you have gottendency, you have to increase it. That is not human civilization. Humancivilization means we have got so many snímal propensities, and if we cancontrol them, that is advancement of human civilization. Just try to understand.Not that "Because I have got this tendency, let me increase it without anyrestriction." That is not human civilization. (SB Lectures, 1.16.21, Hawaii,January 17, 1974)Comment by <strong>Suhotra</strong> SwamiNovember 12, <strong>1995</strong>Yes, that is a useful quote also, which I too sometimes use in class, exceptthat as an answer to this particular question, gambling is not mentioned. SB1.17.38 mentions all four (un)regulative principles.
ATHEISMQuestion from Jahnu dasNovember 12, <strong>1995</strong>I'm preaching to some atheists, and some of them have this idea, that anyconcept or idea which is not testable and falsifiable are to be rejected. Theysay that it is unreasonable to believe in God since the idea cannot befalsified.Is there any sense in this? Isn't it like saying that ignorance is superior toknowledge?Answer by <strong>Suhotra</strong> SwamiNovember 12, <strong>1995</strong>I'd start by asking them whether their idea that every idea must be falsified inorder to be accepted is itself falsifiable. You will find out quickly that thisis an axiom, an absolute principle--in other words, it is their ownunquestionable holy atheistic Truth that lies beyond all reason.This is the philosophical principle known as reflexivity. In mundane discourse,any "absolute" refutation of another position bounces ("reflexes") back upon therefutor to refute his own position. Reflexivity is an invariable defect in allmaterial ideologies.Rascals.DISCIPLES GOING TO HEAVENLY PLANETSQuestion from Vijnana dasNovember 14, <strong>1995</strong>In this mornings SB class the point arose about devotees aspiring to go to theheavenly planets. One devotee said that he had heard that Srila Prabhupada saidthat Most of his disciples would go to the heavenly planets. I have also heardthat. But cannot remember where or from who. I remember hearing it a lot oftimes though. Do you know if Srila Prabhupada actually said that and where?Answer by <strong>Suhotra</strong> SwamiNovember 15, <strong>1995</strong>I am not aware of that statement. You have Folio, so you can search fordifferent combinations of words (disciple, heaven, ISKCON, heavenly, etc.) andsee what you get. Even if you find something, there are other quotes whichindicate otherwise. Finally, I can't conceive why this statement, which even iftrue is obscure, is beány given so much attention. Prabhupada once said thatjust as airplanes float in the sky because of the petrol in their tanks, so theearth also floats, and if all the petroleum is extracted from the earth it willfall, just as an airplane falls when it runs out of petrol. But shall we makethis quote into a major issue that we present in public lectures? "Petrol givesfloatation power, that is why airplanes fly and the earth is suspended inspace." Is this such a tattvic principle that we must make sure that alldevotees and guests understand it? Bhagavad-gita says that devotees who do notperfect themselves will go to heaven, and then resume bhakti-yoga upon takingbirth on earth again. That applies to certain cases; it is not a generalprinciple that is to be preached in a way that will lead everyone to think,"Anyway, no matter how hard I try to become Krsna conscious, the chances arethat I will go to the heavenly planets. So, why Brother being so strict?" Just
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