Conversation Transcript - Ignite Realtime

[12:04 PM] david: go go shark![12:04 PM] jadestormweb (anonymous) has left the room[12:04 PM] Guest400 (anonymous) has joined the room[12:04 PM] Guest236 (anonymous) has joined the room[12:04 PM] Guest400 (anonymous) has left the room[12:04 PM] matt (anonymous) has joined the room[12:04 PM] david: hi matt[12:05 PM] alex: another nice to have would be when it encounters a name conflict tonot save your new nickname so when you come back it will attempt to use youroriginal nickname[12:05 PM] Gato: next releases of the server. Tomorrow we will be releasing Wildfire3.2.4 and Openfire 3.3.0 Beta 1[12:05 PM] Jadestorm: man, ya gotta watch out for that guest400... you're sittingaround minding your own business next to guest400 and BAM it's matt[12:05 PM] david: alex: I agree; the other thing I need to do is make the conflictresolution code go for minimum number of _ instead of current number + 1[12:05 PM] matt: I'm liking this new gropu chat client quite a bit these days :)[12:05 PM] Jadestorm: and Gateway 1.0.1 (primary improvement is that it'll work withopenfire ;D )[12:06 PM] Jadestorm: david: perhaps it needs a spell checker *points at matt'smessage*[12:06 PM] Jadestorm: kidding ;D[12:06 PM] Gato: people using latest code of trunk should know that yesterday werenamed all Java packages[12:06 PM] david: jadestorm: it *has* one... on osx ;)[12:06 PM] Jadestorm: lol[12:06 PM] david: (or on firefox latest, afaik)[12:06 PM] Gato: that means that existing plugins will need to be updated too[12:06 PM] Guest236 (anonymous) has left the room[12:06 PM] francisco (anonymous) has joined the room[12:06 PM] Jadestorm: oh that's right firefox 2 has the built in spell checker i lovethat thing[12:06 PM] matt: well, if ony i was using firefox 2.x on this machine, i'd be all set[12:06 PM] Gato: and if you created your own plugin then you will need to rename thepackage name as well so it can work with new code[12:07 PM] david: /me looks at the shark profile and winces at the quickdraw junk[12:07 PM] Jadestorm: matt: firefox 1.* is -so- last week[12:07 PM] matt: i try to keep it around for testing[12:08 PM] Jadestorm: well ok, we'll let you off the software update police radar fornow then =)

[12:08 PM] Jadestorm: hrm adium x displays messages when people change theirnickname, but doesn't actually reflect the change in the sidebar[12:08 PM] david: yup. known bug[12:09 PM] Jadestorm: oh good =) no need to report it then![12:09 PM] Francisco2 (francisco@jivesoftware.com/spark) has joined the room[12:09 PM] david: with any luck one of our summer of code students will axe it[12:10 PM] francisco (anonymous) has left the room[12:10 PM] Jadestorm: arg... for the last two days there's been an exhaust smell in mybuilding. today there's some sort of insecticide smell. perhaps they're trying to flushme out[12:10 PM] alex: david: textarea doesn't resize horozontially[12:10 PM] matt: well, we're deep in crazy release mode here. Gato is doing tons ofchanges for the Openfire rename and Derek is squashing Spark bugs before release[12:11 PM] david: alex: it's on the list, just not as high priority as the other stuff[12:11 PM] Jadestorm: derek's a freakin' ninja. i've never seen so many svn commitscome out of one person lol[12:11 PM] matt: ha ha, don't inflate his ego ;)[12:11 PM] Jadestorm: lol[12:12 PM] matt: as another bit of news, i think asterisk-im development may pick upagain soon due to some community members stepping in on the project[12:12 PM] Jadestorm: cool =)[12:14 PM] Jadestorm: oh, unless y'all object, i might look at the connectionmanager's spec file and other support files after i'm done with openfire. i noticedwhen i did a stop from the init.d-esque script that it like... started another instance ;Dnot really what i was after ;)[12:14 PM] Guest89 (anonymous) has joined the room[12:15 PM] Guest247 (anonymous) has joined the room[12:15 PM] Jadestorm: i guess the cm doesn't have a spec file at all right now[12:15 PM] Guest247 (anonymous) has left the room[12:15 PM] guest69 (anonymous) has joined the room[12:15 PM] guest69 (anonymous) has left the room[12:15 PM] greg (anonymous) has joined the room[12:15 PM] david: hi greg[12:16 PM] Guest89 (anonymous) has left the room[12:16 PM] dhm116 (anonymous) has joined the room[12:16 PM] Guest341 (anonymous) has joined the room[12:17 PM] matt: jadestorm: sounds like a good fix to the script :)[12:18 PM] david: hm, so yeah, the firefox profile shows most of its time being spentdrawing[12:18 PM] david: so I bet that's the blinky cursor

[12:18 PM] kesitter (kesitter@gmail.com/spark0FFC2095) has joined the room[12:19 PM] Guest233 (anonymous) has left the room[12:22 PM] SmilingJ: so... back again :-) only one small question: will you (thedevelopers) release a small guide for external plugin developers what they've to do totransform their plugins so that they're working with openfire?[12:22 PM] Guest341 (anonymous) has left the room[12:22 PM] gknapper (anonymous) has joined the room[12:23 PM] Guest175 (anonymous) has joined the room[12:24 PM] Guest175 (anonymous) has left the room[12:24 PM] ryan (anonymous) has joined the room[12:24 PM] david: hey ryan[12:26 PM] Jadestorm: smilingj: probably something in the wiki would do. generallyit's a basic change of the org.jivesoftware.wildfire to org.jivesoftware.openfire 'path' allover the place. but probably adding something to this would be helpful:http://wiki.igniterealtime.org/display/WILDFIRE/Wildfire+to+Openfire+Upgrade+Guidekind of a "for developers..." section =)[12:26 PM] david: ooh, link parser bug[12:26 PM] david: doesn't like urls with + in 'em[12:26 PM] Jadestorm: glad i could help ;D[12:29 PM] SmilingJ: @jadestorm yeah ... would be nice ... (i'm realy lookingforward to import a new source version to my eclipse workspace and click the smallred x'es)[12:29 PM] Jadestorm: =)[12:31 PM] dhm116: (I guess I should have clarified, I was curious if any developersworking on the xiff project were present)[12:32 PM] Jadestorm: hrm dhm, i never even saw a message from you in the firstplace[12:32 PM] Jadestorm: (i'm not involved with the xiff project, but just noticed thatthat's the first message i've seen from you)[12:33 PM] Derek (derek@jivesoftware.com/spark) has left the room[12:33 PM] greg: same here dhm116, first message I've seen from you[12:33 PM] Derek (derek@jivesoftware.com/spark) has joined the room[12:33 PM] Derek: hmmm[12:33 PM] Derek: i need to add persistent rooms to the desktop[12:33 PM] greg: @derek - yeah, that is definitely something we need to work on whenwe focus on group chat :)[12:34 PM] Derek: yup[12:34 PM] Guest175 (anonymous) has joined the room[12:34 PM] david: dhm116: what browser/client are you using?[12:37 PM] dhm116: hah, that's wierd....I am on the igniterealtime site using firefox

[12:38 PM] Guest396 (anonymous) has joined the room[12:38 PM] david: interesting[12:38 PM] david: haven't seen any issues with firefox before[12:38 PM] Greg2 (greg@jivesoftware.com/spark) has joined the room[12:38 PM] Guest175 (anonymous) has left the room[12:39 PM] Jadestorm: i need to get back to work folk. is there anything anyoneneeds to/wants to ask about the im gateway plugin before i go?[12:42 PM] matt: file transfer, group chat, and voice chat[12:42 PM] matt: ;)[12:42 PM] Jadestorm: no, no, and no[12:42 PM] Jadestorm: ;D[12:42 PM] Jadestorm: kidding =)[12:43 PM] Jadestorm: group chat is currently on the top of the "most wanted list", filetransfer, however, is on the top of Daniel's (my) most wanted list ;D[12:43 PM] matt: yeah, both would be sweet[12:43 PM] Jadestorm: voice chat i didn't even have on my list ;D guess i'll create anissue for it[12:44 PM] dhm116 (anonymous) has left the room[12:44 PM] Jadestorm: man, now i'm going to have to rename my "Wildfire Peeps"group to "Openfire Peeps" how am I to go on?[12:45 PM] Jadestorm: Matt: GATE-205 ;D[12:45 PM] SmilingJ: icq registering would be great[12:45 PM] Jadestorm: icq registering?[12:45 PM] SmilingJ: no... wrong[12:45 PM] SmilingJ: adding contacts.. that was what i wanted[12:45 PM] Jadestorm: oh oh yeah actually handling the proper authorization steps[12:45 PM] SmilingJ: and reflecting status to icq contacts[12:46 PM] Jadestorm: (you can currently add contacts that don't require auth first)[12:46 PM] Jadestorm: but then most of the icq world requires auth ;)[12:46 PM] Jadestorm: smilingj: i believe those are...... yes. GATE-127 and GATE-199[12:47 PM] Guest247 (anonymous) has joined the room[12:47 PM] Jadestorm: slated for 1.1.0 =)[12:47 PM] SmilingJ: kk.. i know that they wherer ther before.. it was just because youasked ... :-)[12:47 PM] Jadestorm: even though groupchat is on the top of the popular list, andfile transfer is on the top of my list, icq is really on the "needs to get done" list first ;)[12:48 PM] SmilingJ: well then .. gl&hf[12:48 PM] Jadestorm: gl&hf?[12:48 PM] david: good luck and have fun[12:48 PM] alex: jadestorm: any of the libraries have any file transfer capability builtin?

[12:48 PM] Jadestorm: oh oh =) thanks[12:49 PM] Guest364 (anonymous) has joined the room[12:49 PM] Jadestorm: joscar does, java-jml i believe does (i ought to know that sincei'm the maintainer of it ;D), jymsg ... don't know =( guus however is making ymsg notsuck for me =D yay guus![12:49 PM] Jadestorm: not sure about irclib either[12:49 PM] david: joscar ft works quite nicely :)[12:50 PM] SmilingJ: well.. i think i've to go .. someone's requesting my presence :-) ...[12:50 PM] Jadestorm: joscar rocks =) i'm sad that the little obj-c to javatransport/whatever faltered =([12:50 PM] david: although it doesn't have NAT-PMP like libgaim picked up yesterday;)[12:50 PM] Jadestorm: nat pimp? ;)[12:50 PM] david: yeah, I think that every time I see it...[12:50 PM] Jadestorm: =) well i do know what NAT is but i don't know what PMP is[12:51 PM] david: NAT-PMP is a nat traversal technique[12:51 PM] david: currently implemented only in apple routers[12:51 PM] david: limited utility, but it works quite nicely[12:52 PM] alex: /me might take a hack at joscar transfer[12:53 PM] Jadestorm: neat =D (nat-pmp)[12:53 PM] Jadestorm: alex: for the plugin? or just for standalone?[12:53 PM] alex: jadestorm: for the plugin[12:53 PM] Jadestorm: ooh that would be awesome =)[12:53 PM] Derek (derek@jivesoftware.com/spark) has left the room[12:54 PM] Jadestorm: are you alex of jive? or alex of something else? ;)[12:54 PM] gknapper (anonymous) has left the room[12:54 PM] Guest364 (anonymous) has left the room[12:54 PM] Guest327 (anonymous) has joined the room[12:54 PM] Jadestorm: (i ask because if you are alex of something else, there's acontributor agreement that matt needs signed before i can accept anything)[12:55 PM] Jadestorm: matt: see! I've got that ingrained in my mind now =) making itone of the first things I say. ;D[12:55 PM] Guest165 (anonymous) has joined the room[12:55 PM] Guest327 (anonymous) has left the room[12:55 PM] bbf (anonymous) has joined the room[12:55 PM] alex: this is alex@jive[12:55 PM] Jadestorm: awesome =)[12:56 PM] alex: the issue is finding spare time ;)[12:56 PM] Guest165 (anonymous) has left the room

[12:56 PM] dhillon (anonymous) has joined the room[12:56 PM] alex: but if the support in joscar is as good as you say it is it shouldn't betoo difficult...[12:57 PM] Gato (gato@jivesoftware.com/spark) has left the room[12:57 PM] Jadestorm: yeah i know what you mean =( i was excited about diving intofile transfer because it's something i've never done to date and wanted to learn theinner working of how it goes. (especially the part about being the intermediarybetween aim and xmpp) but i thought about it and i'd actually learn from it to seesomeone else do it too. for some reason that didn't cross my mind before[12:58 PM] kesitter (kesitter@gmail.com/spark0FFC2095) has left the room[12:58 PM] Jadestorm: well you'll be a lot of people's hero if you get that going ;Dbut no worries if you don't end up having time![12:58 PM] Jadestorm: i really do need to get going though lol[12:58 PM] Jadestorm: y'all take care![12:58 PM] Chris (silvertooth@mc.maricopa.edu/spark) has joined the room[12:59 PM] Jadestorm (dhenninger@jivesoftware.com/Adium) has left the room[12:59 PM] Guest88 (anonymous) has joined the room[1:00 PM] Guest88 (anonymous) has left the room[1:01 PM] dhillon (anonymous) has left the room[1:05 PM] david (anonymous) has left the room[1:05 PM] Greg2 (greg@jivesoftware.com/spark) has left the room[1:06 PM] greg (anonymous) has left the room[1:07 PM] Francisco2 (francisco@jivesoftware.com/spark) has left the room[1:07 PM] Guest247 (anonymous) has left the room[1:07 PM] moshino (anonymous) has joined the room[1:10 PM] moshino (anonymous) has left the room[1:10 PM] bbf (anonymous) has left the room[1:14 PM] Guest396 (anonymous) has left the room[1:15 PM] Chris (silvertooth@mc.maricopa.edu/spark) has left the room[1:17 PM] ryan (anonymous) has left the room[1:17 PM] hstack (hstack@im.pacwest.com/Pac-West IM) has left the room[1:17 PM] SmilingJ (smilingj@smilingj.net/bei Julia) has left the room[1:17 PM] mmorey (anonymous) has left the room[1:17 PM] matt (anonymous) has left the room[1:17 PM] atmcclain (anonymous) has left the room[1:17 PM] alex (anonymous) has left the room[1:17 PM] nosbig (anonymous) has left the room