10Ediger, Sprouse, and Zeman returned after rigging to the "sump." Steele,Stone, and Ward continued till they bottomed the <strong>cave</strong> at a siphon 2 dropspast the end of previous exploration. They returned at 8 a.m. After settingup camp, Broussard, Jameson, Larason, J. Strickland, and Treacy starteda surface survey to connect all the known <strong>cave</strong>s of the area. Monday, lfarch 15;Tracy Johnson and Henry Schneiker arrived from Arizona by way of train, bus,and foot. They reached the ~eneral area Sunday night b<strong>ut</strong> couldn't find thecamp in the dark. Jim Smith, Marion Smith, and Mark Stock arrived fromTennessee in Marion's car. Two teams started mapping in Conchas. Ediger,J1cKee, Sayther, and Schneiker started at the surface and mapped down to wherethe second team started. The second team of Cavanau~h, Eavis, Jshnson, andSprouse started mapping at the start of the "sump" and mapped down to -348m.They bypassed the "big room." Hemperly, McNatt, and Ralph started mappingin the "Sotanito," previously explored <strong>cave</strong> in the area. They mapped abo<strong>ut</strong>75 meters. Cochrane and Grubbs returned to the trucks with a burro <strong>for</strong>another load of rope and gear. The surface survey crew finished the connectionof all the <strong>cave</strong>s. Tuesday, March 16: In Conchas surveying continuedwith Smith, Smith, and Stock surveying from the bottom of previous surveyto the siphon. They dove the siphon to a depth of 4m. b<strong>ut</strong> found no leads.On the way o<strong>ut</strong> they derigged the last 200m of the <strong>cave</strong>. Dorman, Hwrrison,Hemperly, and Steele took a 100m rope and checked o<strong>ut</strong> and mapped the "BigRoom." Cochrane, Grubbs, and Jameson made a biology, geology, and photographictrip dOtvn to abo<strong>ut</strong> 300m and on the way o<strong>ut</strong> they hauled up the 100mrope used in the "Big Room." NcNatt, Ralph, West, and Zeman finished thesurvey of the Sotanito, 213m deep. An attempt to find the Rendijas "fissure"failed because of heavy fog. Wednesday, March 17: Broussard, Eavis, McKee,and P. Strickland went into Conchas; they photographed on the way down andderigged the <strong>cave</strong> on the way o<strong>ut</strong>. They derigged to the top of the "twindrops." A hikin2 team located the Rendijas "fissure" b<strong>ut</strong> found it to be asurface feature 30' deep. Cochrane, Smith. Stone, Stock, and otherschecked o<strong>ut</strong> a SOm pit near Mojonera. On the way back they stopped atSotano de Canoas and dug the log jam o<strong>ut</strong> of entrance. They went down asfar as their ropes would go. Jameson hiked to San Jose and mapped asmall <strong>cave</strong>, Cueva de la Mesa. He also found several 20-4Om pits and wasshown Sotar.o de Nogal, with an entrance drop of abo<strong>ut</strong> 80m. Thursday, March 18;Kevin McGill, Barb Ransom, and Eric Valainis arrived from Indiana in Eric'sbehicle. Donald Spear arrived from Texas on the bus. The rest of Conchaswas derigged. Smith, Smith, Stock, and others returned tu Sotano de Canoas,mapped, and pushed till it ended in a siphon lOO-12Om down. Broussard,Cochrane, Grubbs, and Jameson hiked to Nogal. They checked the entrance dropand found a going passage, b<strong>ut</strong> further exploration was prevented by lack ofmore rope. Biological collections were made and air flow was noticed. Severalpeople went on recon hikes b<strong>ut</strong> no <strong>cave</strong>s were found. Friday, March 20:Cochrane,Jameson, Stone, Ward, and Zeman returned to Nogal and mapped down to 247mwhere they ran o<strong>ut</strong> of rope at the top of a sOm drop. Air flow was noticedat several places. Except <strong>for</strong> Broussard, Ediger, and Larason all the othersleft and hiked o<strong>ut</strong>. A hurro load of rope and equipment also left. Once thevehicles were reached the first stop was a tienda with cold refrescos inLa Purisima. The next stop was the Rio Santa ~ria. From here the expeditionsplit up with persons going in several different directions. Some peoplewent directly back north, some went on so<strong>ut</strong>h to Mexico City, and otherpoints of interest. Several of the vehicles went throuszh Xilitla. The "HOGof STEEL" then went to Golondrinas. On their way back they met the Nogalcrew several times near Cr<strong>ut</strong>a del Palmito. The final depth of Itaya de lasConchas is S08m. This makes it the 5th deepest in the Western Hemisphere.[see the loose map of Hoya de las Conchas]Andy Grubbs
11First Exploration of NogalThursday afternoon Alex Cochrane, Don Broussard, Roy Jamison, andAndy Grubbs returned from a sco<strong>ut</strong> trip to San Jose two miles north ofConchas. The locals showed them a rather deep hole named Sotano de Nogalnear town. One entrance is a 260' free drop in very large passage. A5X5 foot hole led off the bottom to a 30 foot climbdown and a 30 foot dropwhere they ran o<strong>ut</strong> of rope. (They had to tie a knot 60 feet off the floorjust to do the entrance drop!) They reported air blowing strong enough top<strong>ut</strong> o<strong>ut</strong> a carbide li~ht!So the next day, with great difficulty, we managed to rouse 5 people'from the 37 at camp to hike o<strong>ut</strong> again with roughly 750 feet of rope. Wearrived around noon at the double entrance (60 feet from the 250 foot dropis another 200+ foot drop which surely connects b<strong>ut</strong> has yet to be descended.)Steve Zeeman did most of the rigging while Steve Ward and I shot thesurvey in behind him. Roy kept book and Alex did a bio collection. Thepassage was so pleasant, dry, and spacious that Ward and I had no problemkeeping the survey right on Zeeman's heels as he rigged each virgin drop.Beyond the 30 foot drop was a 60 foot pitch, followed by a 140 foot dropwith a knot 30 feet off the floor. The room above this drop was the moststriking example of bedding exposure in a <strong>cave</strong> I've ever seen. Dippingalmost vertical, huge scabs just stuck o<strong>ut</strong> of the walls and floor. Slickensidesand an obvious fault wall were quite impressive. Beyond the 140 footdrop was a steep climbdown <strong>for</strong> 50-60 feet then another 100 foot drop intothe "Greccian Column Room." A 60 foot drop off here led across a crystallake, through more sinuous passage and finally another 50 foot drop wherewe ran o<strong>ut</strong> of rope. This was un<strong>for</strong>tunate as just 50 feet away was anotherl50-foot-plus drop. Que Lastima! The <strong>cave</strong> was still pushing a lot of air,even at that depth. The survey showed that the top of the 150'+ drop was800 feet below the entrance. The most significant differences in Sotanode Nogal are what will undoubtedly make it deeper than Conchas. One, Nogalis a "Paleo-Floodwater" <strong>cave</strong>, apparently taking huge amounts of drainagelong be<strong>for</strong>e San Jose was established. This circumvents the main cork injust abo<strong>ut</strong> all of the San Juan plateau <strong>cave</strong>s. The advent of farming allowedtons of silt to be sloughed off by arroyos everytime it rained. Since alldraina~e on the central plateau is internal, that silt only had one placeto go -- right down the tubes. Jamison reports a usable limestone depthof abo<strong>ut</strong> 2700 feet from the plateau to the Rio Jalpan (altimeter readings).Almost all the San Juan systems consequently silt up at constriction pointsfar above the usable limit of limestone. Hence, since Nogal has none ofthe silt problems the other <strong>cave</strong>s do, it is quite expectedly a clean, cry<strong>cave</strong> as far as we pushed. Secondly, the evidence of a strong air flow asdeep as -800 feet indicates considerably more passage -- or a lower entrance-- something none of the other <strong>cave</strong>s show -- almost all the others havebad air and organic debris near the bottom.Witho<strong>ut</strong> stepping too far beyond reason, I would say that some May whenwe return, San Juan will have its second SOOm+ system!Bill Stone
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