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37EditoralsIt is always painful and usually unpopular to voice criticism in ourorganization, but certain event!,! in the past year merit the attention of thewhole clan as they may indeed be the sign of what's to come.AMCS cavers have traditionally been one of the best groups of verticalenthusiasts in the United States, not due to an attempt to form an exclusiveclub, but because all were drawn in different manners by the spectacularchallenge and excitement of deep Mexican caves. Until as recently as twoyears ago nothing had come along that our well tested single rope techniquescouldn't handle. Many cavers lapsed into an euphoria of disconcern fordanger that was bred by technique familiarity. Even Golondrinas can bea "whimp drop" after 4 or 5 times (viz. nude, upside down, by lawn chair,and 5 minute descents.l,). Unfortunately most of the "leader types" gotsucked into this syndrome of ignoring danger.The second problem to arise came from the need to fill ones speleovehicle with sufficient cavers to defray the outrageous cost of gasolineand maintenance. This usually results in rather unbalanced expeditionswith everyone from novice to expert and the neighborhood dog. Seldomis there going to be a trip with an "ideal crew'~ An ideal crew is one inwhich: a) Everyone is socially and psychologically compatible b) Everyonehas roughly the same magnitude of caving ability.Normally, small deficiencies in either of the afore mentioned attributesof the crew have little affect on the outcome of a trip. However,when the caving becomes demanding to the limit, variations in that "idealcrew" can blow the lid on safety underground. The past two years haveseen a tremendous ·upsurge in very deep caving. Great depths, and moreimportantly, large quantitites of moving water are changing the rules ofthe game. Sooner or later we will have to learn to play by the rules orsomeone is going to buy it.Almost all the accidents of this past year stem from the above mentionedproblems. Norm Pace's near catatrophe in Yochib would never have occurredhad there been a locking carabiner on the bolt. But how could anyonehave known that it would happen since that manner or rigging had "always"been" dependable before? The lack of equal caving ability, or unfamiliaritywith a crucial move, has been responsible for two of the deepest rescuesin the western hemisphere. "Sheila Feels" in Conchas should have had ahandline rigged before the accident occurred. Those of us in the lead werenot thinking. Our eight person team was clearly divided in ability. Failureto recognize this and rig accordingly finally caught up with us. Thosethat have recently done the trip to San Agustin's Camp II know the triteawkwardness of tre tyrolean from the bottom of the 140' drop to the top ofthe 318'. Considering the heavy traffic of cavers with bulky packs enrouteto Camp II, it was only a matter of time before someone unfamiliar with
3~the spot would make a smaU slip. I know I had a bear of a time gettinga wet 50 lb. duffel down to Camp II.In mentioning these accidents, I aln in no way attempting judgement.The point is that several lessons can be learned from our mistakes. HopefUllyall will benefit from the close calls of a few. As new areas likeZoquitlan open up, it appears that wet caving is here to stay. Thosewith experience in such caves would do well to discuss wet-ca~ riggingwith the rest of the clan. Knowledge of when and when not to use a jumarsafety on a handline in rapids could make the difference between blissfuUyskimming up stream or being sucked under.Deep push crews and support teams need to be tight units - as closeto the "ideal crew" as possible. One person's ill temper toward the othersin a tense situation can affect the psyche of the whole team. Great strengthCOlnes from camraderie. Strength also comE:S froln continuity. If one ortwo people are always rushing on ahead, who will be there to throw thema line as they are being swept over the falls? Group decision making isalways better then blindly accepting the most fanatical view. As the holesget tougher then we had best get tough on safety.Bill StoneSotano de San Agustin is pe:rhaps the most beautiful cave in ~rorthAmerica as well as the deepest, and so is destined to be frequently visited.If each person left even a small a~unt of trash, the cave would soon resemblea garbage dump. Each group entering the cave should be strong enoughto remove whatever they bring in. If the energy or time does not existto remove the trash from the cave, clearly the group is operating dangerouslyclose to their limits; and has no capacity left to deal with theinevitable minor problem, much less a serious injury. There is no depthbelow which caving is so difficult and demanding that leaving equipmentbehind is a necessity. as all caving needs a ~rgin of safety. Of course,in the case of an accident or serious problem, people come before equipmentbut leaVing ~~terial in the cave should be a rare occurrence. Every tripshould budget their time and man power to remove their equipment. Thosewh~want to preserve the cave should not have to remove the trash left byothers.The Alles stands behind the feeling that conservation practices shOuldbe maintained regardless of how deep a cave is or in what country a caveis located. We feel a~palled that established speleologists would turn theirheads away from accepted conservation policies in favor of an easier exitfrom the cave. Sotano de San Agustin, the deepest cave in the Western Hemispherewas left littered with abandoned bags, personal gear, uneaten food.and rubbish. Those who left this material were fully aware that other membersof the expedition were against such practices but proceeded contraryto these wishes. Sotano de San Agustin was derigged by a skeleton crew of~~CS cavers. All material abandoned by the 1977 expedition. all left bythe 1976 ~~xican party, and all abandoned by the 1963 Canadian expeditionwere cleaned up leaving a clean cave as our deepest one.AMes
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- Page 119 and 120: RETURN TO HUAUTLA~Jith t~e 1976-77
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- Page 131 and 132: 5uestination: Sierra las Alazanas a
- Page 133 and 134: The Fissure t..as located by T.P.
- Page 135 and 136: 11The next morning Francisco "Kissi
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- Page 155 and 156: 30Medical Report On The April 1977
- Page 157 and 158: '32One caver alInost lost her voice
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- Page 161: 36Jim Smit~ Has followinp, Blake Ha
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- Page 184 and 185: With two leads 'beckoning we began
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3~the spot would make a smaU slip. I know I had a bear of a time gettinga wet 50 lb. duffel down to Camp II.In mentioning these accidents, I aln in no way attempting judgement.The point is that several lessons can be learned from our mistakes. HopefUllyall will benefit from the close calls of a few. As new areas likeZoquitlan open up, it appears that wet caving is here to stay. Thosewith experience in such <strong>cave</strong>s would do well to discuss wet-ca~ riggingwith the rest of the clan. Knowledge of when and when not to use a jumarsafety on a handline in rapids could make the difference between blissfuUyskimming up stream or being sucked under.Deep push crews and support teams need to be tight units - as closeto the "ideal crew" as possible. One person's ill temper toward the othersin a tense situation can affect the psyche of the whole team. Great strengthCOlnes from camraderie. Strength also comE:S froln continuity. If one ortwo people are always rushing on ahead, who will be there to throw thema line as they are being swept over the falls? Group decision making isalways better then blindly accepting the most fanatical view. As the holesget tougher then we had best get tough on safety.Bill StoneSotano de San Agustin is pe:rhaps the most bea<strong>ut</strong>iful <strong>cave</strong> in ~rorthAmerica as well as the deepest, and so is destined to be frequently visited.If each person left even a small a~unt of trash, the <strong>cave</strong> would soon resemblea garbage dump. Each group entering the <strong>cave</strong> should be strong enoughto remove whatever they bring in. If the energy or time does not existto remove the trash from the <strong>cave</strong>, clearly the group is operating dangerouslyclose to their limits; and has no capacity left to deal with theinevitable minor problem, much less a serious injury. There is no depthbelow which caving is so difficult and demanding that leaving equipmentbehind is a necessity. as all caving needs a ~rgin of safety. Of course,in the case of an accident or serious problem, people come be<strong>for</strong>e equipmentb<strong>ut</strong> leaVing ~~terial in the <strong>cave</strong> should be a rare occurrence. Every tripshould budget their time and man power to remove their equipment. Thosewh~want to preserve the <strong>cave</strong> should not have to remove the trash left byothers.The Alles stands behind the feeling that conservation practices shOuldbe maintained regardless of how deep a <strong>cave</strong> is or in what country a <strong>cave</strong>is located. We feel a~palled that established speleologists would turn theirheads away from accepted conservation policies in favor of an easier exitfrom the <strong>cave</strong>. Sotano de San Agustin, the deepest <strong>cave</strong> in the Western Hemispherewas left littered with abandoned bags, personal gear, uneaten food.and rubbish. Those who left this material were fully aware that other membersof the expedition were against such practices b<strong>ut</strong> proceeded contraryto these wishes. Sotano de San Agustin was derigged by a skeleton crew of~~CS <strong>cave</strong>rs. All material abandoned by the 1977 expedition. all left bythe 1976 ~~xican party, and all abandoned by the 1963 Canadian expeditionwere cleaned up leaving a clean <strong>cave</strong> as our deepest one.AMes