CMX 2004 - Plumbing & HVAC
CMX 2004 - Plumbing & HVAC
CMX 2004 - Plumbing & HVAC
Create successful ePaper yourself
Turn your PDF publications into a flip-book with our unique Google optimized e-Paper software.
Letters<br />
Hydronic heating efficiencies need<br />
to be backed by hard figures<br />
(Editor’s note: P&<strong>HVAC</strong> hydronics columnist Roy<br />
Collver received the following letter.)<br />
Dear Roy,<br />
I found your recent article entitled ‘Motivate the<br />
builder to offer hydronic heating’ in the Nov/Dec 2003<br />
<strong>Plumbing</strong> & <strong>HVAC</strong> Product News very interesting and<br />
informative.<br />
In the article you mentioned two educational points<br />
that builders need to be aware of; one of lower fuel bills<br />
and second, save the environment. What we would find<br />
beneficial is any quantitative data or information available<br />
which would further support these statements.<br />
For example, if a typical home could save “X” on<br />
their gas bill by utilizing hydronic heating, what range<br />
could these savings be? Also on the environmental<br />
side, what is the message or how does this application<br />
help the environment?<br />
I would appreciate any information that we could<br />
reference when talking to our industry channels.<br />
Regards,<br />
Dave Garner<br />
Program Manager, Mass Markets<br />
Enbridge<br />
Scarborough, Ont.<br />
Roy Collver responds:<br />
Hello Dave, thanks for your interest in my article.<br />
You have raised a very important point that doesn’t<br />
have an easy answer.<br />
We know from talking to customers and from looking<br />
at some industry case studies that hydronic heating<br />
in general, and radiant floor heating in particular, can<br />
give spectacular savings over forced-air systems. The<br />
problem is, we do not have a North American scientific<br />
study that proves this.<br />
The good news is that a variety of groups are working<br />
on this and we should have unassailable proof in<br />
the near future. From the satisfied customers I have<br />
talked to in recent years, we are seeing savings in the<br />
20% to 50% range, but we have to be careful in making<br />
such claims as there are so many variables.<br />
I will do a bit of research and put together an article<br />
in the next few months detailing the studies done to<br />
date and the expected results of ongoing studies.<br />
Thanks for the feedback, and the idea. It is an article<br />
that is long past due.<br />
Roy Collver<br />
Mechanical Systems 2000<br />
Calgary, Alta.<br />
Gas safety<br />
an ongoing<br />
concern<br />
Dear editor:<br />
I let my techs read your article<br />
(‘Be your customer’s safety<br />
watchdog’ , (Hot Seat, Jan./<br />
Feb./04).<br />
You are right. Those ‘experts’<br />
should have informed you of<br />
the potential hazard.<br />
The biggest problem that we<br />
were finding is that the experts –<br />
the authority having jurisdiction<br />
– (is not doing its job).<br />
If the jobs were inspected<br />
properly for safety and workmanship,<br />
and if they would<br />
back us up if we find an infraction<br />
for a potential hazard created<br />
by another <strong>HVAC</strong> contractor,<br />
then and maybe only then<br />
would the customer believe us<br />
that there is something seriously<br />
wrong.<br />
One of my techs came back<br />
from a job and had asked the<br />
client where the inspection slip<br />
was. None could be found. The<br />
customer did not believe us that<br />
the gas line was installed incorrectly,<br />
or for that matter safely.<br />
The high pressure was coming<br />
from the meter, through the<br />
regulator, than the shut off, to<br />
the appliance. But said client<br />
informed us that it had been<br />
inspected.<br />
After many years of reporting<br />
infractions, and absolutely<br />
nothing ever been done about<br />
them, you can see why we have<br />
become cynical.<br />
The clean trucks belonging to Joe the Plumber Inc., Whitby,<br />
Ont., attract attention.<br />
Liked graphics article<br />
Dear editor<br />
I really enjoyed the ‘Instant Impact’ article in your magazine<br />
(Jan/Feb/04). I myself take a great deal of pride in my work as<br />
well as my company vehicles. I thought I would include a picture<br />
of one of our service trucks. We have three trucks on the road and<br />
they were always clean and organized. Keep up the great work on<br />
the magazine!<br />
Scott Southwell, owner<br />
Joe the Plumber Inc.<br />
Whitby, Ont.<br />
It’s a nice looking truck. Window vans can be a challenge for<br />
graphics – ed.<br />
905-760-1527<br />
1-877-836-7772<br />
Replacement Heat Exchangers for…<br />
Raypak, Rheem Rudd, RBI, Teledyne-Laars,<br />
Lochinvar, Power-Finn, Patterson Kelly and more.<br />
Call us for Tube & Shell<br />
Heat exchangers.<br />
WHEN YOU NEED<br />
HYDRONIC REPLACEMENT<br />
PARTS YESTERDAY!!<br />
T.H.S. is a Manufacturer and Supplier of<br />
Replacement Parts for the Hydronic Industry.<br />
Please see us at<br />
<strong>CMX</strong> <strong>2004</strong> Booth 1135/37<br />
March 25-27<br />
Our own line of “Thermal Cast”<br />
Replacement Refractory for<br />
Raypak (Raytherm), Rheem<br />
Ruud, Teledyne-Laars,<br />
Lochivar, RBI and more<br />
With the aid of computer numeric<br />
control (CNC) technologies, our<br />
machinery centre can produce<br />
intricate and precise machining of<br />
ceramic fibre board, with use limits up<br />
to 3000F (649C) and densities up to 50lbs/sq.in.<br />
Thermal cast, through tests will outlast regular<br />
pre-cast molded refactory. The superior rigidity of<br />
thermal cast will minimize the risk of shipping,<br />
handling and installation damage, as well as<br />
enhance the performance of your boiler.<br />
Call us for full specs.<br />
No cracks or collapsing!<br />
Sold by the brick or the set.<br />
T.H.S. Thermal Hydronic Supply means Competitive Prices and Quality Standards<br />
Member<br />
HYDRONICS<br />
MARKETING<br />
GROUP<br />
Ready when you are<br />
Make the switch to<br />
R-22 alternatives with a<br />
DuPont Suva ® Refrigerant<br />
DuPont Suva ® leads the way with new<br />
refrigerants and the knowledge to help you<br />
make the switch to R-22 alternatives.<br />
With over 70 years experience in the<br />
refrigeration industry, we make handling the<br />
change easy with DuPont Suva ® refrigerants.<br />
suva.dupont.ca<br />
for the latest<br />
on refrigerants<br />
THE RIGHT REFIGERANT FOR THE JOB<br />
Herm Neufeld<br />
Neufeld Heating Service Ltd.<br />
Abbotsford B.C.<br />
357 Edgeley Blvd. Unit 3, Concord, ON • Phone: 905-760-1527 Fax 905-760-1528<br />
NEW LOCATION - 6750 Davand Drive, Unit 4, Mississauga, ON L5T 2L8 • Phone 905-565-0011 Fax: 905-565-1599<br />
Authorized distributor for S. A. Armstrong, Teledyne Laars, Lochinvar, Johnson Controls, White<br />
Rogers, Conbraco, Winters Instruments & Voyageur. Distribution of Honeywell, Tekmar Systems,<br />
Colton, Weiss Instrument, Tjernlund, Ranco & McDonald Miller/ITT.<br />
Toll Free: 1-877-836-7772 • e-mail: info@thermalhydronics.com • www.thermalhydronics.com<br />
®/ Registered trademark/trademark of E.I. du Pont de Nemours and Company. DuPont Canada is a licensee.<br />
Circle Number 113 for More Information<br />
Circle Number 114 for More Information<br />
www.plumbingandhvac.ca March/April <strong>2004</strong> – <strong>Plumbing</strong> & <strong>HVAC</strong> Product News 11