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Letters<br />

Hydronic heating efficiencies need<br />

to be backed by hard figures<br />

(Editor’s note: P&<strong>HVAC</strong> hydronics columnist Roy<br />

Collver received the following letter.)<br />

Dear Roy,<br />

I found your recent article entitled ‘Motivate the<br />

builder to offer hydronic heating’ in the Nov/Dec 2003<br />

<strong>Plumbing</strong> & <strong>HVAC</strong> Product News very interesting and<br />

informative.<br />

In the article you mentioned two educational points<br />

that builders need to be aware of; one of lower fuel bills<br />

and second, save the environment. What we would find<br />

beneficial is any quantitative data or information available<br />

which would further support these statements.<br />

For example, if a typical home could save “X” on<br />

their gas bill by utilizing hydronic heating, what range<br />

could these savings be? Also on the environmental<br />

side, what is the message or how does this application<br />

help the environment?<br />

I would appreciate any information that we could<br />

reference when talking to our industry channels.<br />

Regards,<br />

Dave Garner<br />

Program Manager, Mass Markets<br />

Enbridge<br />

Scarborough, Ont.<br />

Roy Collver responds:<br />

Hello Dave, thanks for your interest in my article.<br />

You have raised a very important point that doesn’t<br />

have an easy answer.<br />

We know from talking to customers and from looking<br />

at some industry case studies that hydronic heating<br />

in general, and radiant floor heating in particular, can<br />

give spectacular savings over forced-air systems. The<br />

problem is, we do not have a North American scientific<br />

study that proves this.<br />

The good news is that a variety of groups are working<br />

on this and we should have unassailable proof in<br />

the near future. From the satisfied customers I have<br />

talked to in recent years, we are seeing savings in the<br />

20% to 50% range, but we have to be careful in making<br />

such claims as there are so many variables.<br />

I will do a bit of research and put together an article<br />

in the next few months detailing the studies done to<br />

date and the expected results of ongoing studies.<br />

Thanks for the feedback, and the idea. It is an article<br />

that is long past due.<br />

Roy Collver<br />

Mechanical Systems 2000<br />

Calgary, Alta.<br />

Gas safety<br />

an ongoing<br />

concern<br />

Dear editor:<br />

I let my techs read your article<br />

(‘Be your customer’s safety<br />

watchdog’ , (Hot Seat, Jan./<br />

Feb./04).<br />

You are right. Those ‘experts’<br />

should have informed you of<br />

the potential hazard.<br />

The biggest problem that we<br />

were finding is that the experts –<br />

the authority having jurisdiction<br />

– (is not doing its job).<br />

If the jobs were inspected<br />

properly for safety and workmanship,<br />

and if they would<br />

back us up if we find an infraction<br />

for a potential hazard created<br />

by another <strong>HVAC</strong> contractor,<br />

then and maybe only then<br />

would the customer believe us<br />

that there is something seriously<br />

wrong.<br />

One of my techs came back<br />

from a job and had asked the<br />

client where the inspection slip<br />

was. None could be found. The<br />

customer did not believe us that<br />

the gas line was installed incorrectly,<br />

or for that matter safely.<br />

The high pressure was coming<br />

from the meter, through the<br />

regulator, than the shut off, to<br />

the appliance. But said client<br />

informed us that it had been<br />

inspected.<br />

After many years of reporting<br />

infractions, and absolutely<br />

nothing ever been done about<br />

them, you can see why we have<br />

become cynical.<br />

The clean trucks belonging to Joe the Plumber Inc., Whitby,<br />

Ont., attract attention.<br />

Liked graphics article<br />

Dear editor<br />

I really enjoyed the ‘Instant Impact’ article in your magazine<br />

(Jan/Feb/04). I myself take a great deal of pride in my work as<br />

well as my company vehicles. I thought I would include a picture<br />

of one of our service trucks. We have three trucks on the road and<br />

they were always clean and organized. Keep up the great work on<br />

the magazine!<br />

Scott Southwell, owner<br />

Joe the Plumber Inc.<br />

Whitby, Ont.<br />

It’s a nice looking truck. Window vans can be a challenge for<br />

graphics – ed.<br />

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