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308 THIS DIFFICULT INDIVIDUAL examination halls at Nanking of a great Confucian scholar, such a scholar that he wrote a letter, and there was only one man in all China who could understand it. That is not very democratic, I'm afraid. That is aristocratic, like you, Mr. Pound. POUND: But it is democratic as long as it provides that any one may have the opportunity to learn enough to read that letter. EDITH HAMILTON: You always puncture my balloons, Mr. Pound. POUND: You haven't been out since my latest theory that Dante was a real democrat and Shakespeare a bloody snob. EDITH HAMILTON: I'm no Shakespearian, Mr. Pound, but I must quarrel with you there. I don't believe Shakespeare ever had that fixed an idea. POUND: In the Inferno, Dante doesn't pay any attention to the class from which the characters sprang. EDITH HAMILTON: But he didn't have any common men in his Inferno. They were all important people. He didn't portray the torturing of the common man. POUND: Shakespeare was propounding this idea of a limited monarchy in his twelve histories. EDITH HAMILTON: I don't think so. I think he was too careless a man to do anything like that. And I think that Mr. Dante was more aristocratic than Mr. Shakespeare. (She quotes Hamlet's Soliloquy). The soliloquy was Mr. Shakespeare coming through— the only time I know where he really came through. By the way, is that Rousse translation of Homer a good one? POUND: It doesn't have the movement or the sound or any approximation of one. Edwards in the Hudson has done the best translation, but it hasn't got the right quantities in it. EDITH HAMILTON: Is anyone doing a good translation? POUND: There are probably fifty or sixty people doing bad translations, and I know of five or six incompetent young men doing better translations that will not be good enough, but they are trying to make a good translation. EDITH HAMILTON: Mr. Pound is such a naughty fellow (to Mrs. Pound). What do you do with him when he's like that? Does scolding do him any good? DOROTHY POUND (laughs): Oh help, I gave that up long ago. (Pound grins, pleased at having amused the ladies.)"
EZRA POUND 309 In retrospect, it seems that tape recordings of such conversations would have found a ready market, but Pound's circle was never much concerned with markets. Over each of those afternoons, sometimes light-hearted, sometimes depressing, hung the everpresent cloud of his situation, and the awful thought that he might never be released from his sordid dungeon. At the end of each afternoon, we helped Ezra carry his things to the ward. The grim door would swing shut behind him, and Dorothy Pound and I would wait on the lawn until he appeared at the tiny window of his cell. "Ciao!" she would bravely cry out, and he would wave in response. Then we would turn away, leaving him to another night in that hellish place. It was a difficult and a shameful thing to do, and it is no wonder that some of his visitors became revolutionaries.
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308 THIS DIFFICULT INDIVIDUAL<br />
examination halls at Nanking of a great Confucian scholar, such a<br />
scholar that he wrote a letter, and there was only one man in all<br />
China who could understand it. That is not very democratic, I'm<br />
afraid. That is aristocratic, like you, Mr. Pound.<br />
POUND: But it is democratic as long as it provides that any one<br />
may have the opportunity to learn enough to read that letter.<br />
EDITH HAMILTON: You always puncture my balloons, Mr. Pound.<br />
POUND: You haven't been out since my latest theory that Dante<br />
was a real democrat and Shakespeare a bloody snob.<br />
EDITH HAMILTON: I'm no Shakespearian, Mr. Pound, but I must<br />
quarrel with you there. I don't believe Shakespeare ever had that<br />
fixed an idea.<br />
POUND: In the Inferno, Dante doesn't pay any attention to the<br />
class from which the characters sprang.<br />
EDITH HAMILTON: But he didn't have any common men in his<br />
Inferno. They were all important people. He didn't portray the<br />
torturing of the common man.<br />
POUND: Shakespeare was propounding this idea of a limited<br />
monarchy in his twelve histories.<br />
EDITH HAMILTON: I don't think so. I think he was too careless<br />
a man to do anything like that. And I think that Mr. Dante was<br />
more aristocratic than Mr. Shakespeare. (She quotes Hamlet's<br />
Soliloquy). The soliloquy was Mr. Shakespeare coming through—<br />
the only time I know where he really came through. By the way, is<br />
that Rousse translation of Homer a good one?<br />
POUND: It doesn't have the movement or the sound or any<br />
approximation of one. Edwards in the Hudson has done the best<br />
translation, but it hasn't got the right quantities in it.<br />
EDITH HAMILTON: Is anyone doing a good translation?<br />
POUND: There are probably fifty or sixty people doing bad<br />
translations, and I know of five or six incompetent young men<br />
doing better translations that will not be good enough, but they<br />
are trying to make a good translation.<br />
EDITH HAMILTON: Mr. Pound is such a naughty fellow (to Mrs.<br />
Pound). What do you do with him when he's like that? Does scolding<br />
do him any good?<br />
DOROTHY POUND (laughs): Oh help, I gave that up long ago.<br />
(Pound grins, pleased at having amused the ladies.)"