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DRAFT REPORT: Rights and Title Interests in <strong>the</strong> Columbia Valley Transmissi<strong>on</strong> Project Area<br />

understand each o<strong>the</strong>r, you know, and <strong>the</strong>y were making signs that <strong>the</strong>y<br />

had been up those hills. Of course <strong>the</strong>y took <strong>the</strong>m <strong>the</strong>re later and <strong>the</strong>y<br />

saw that <strong>the</strong> camp was up <strong>on</strong> top <strong>the</strong> hill and <strong>the</strong>y had been watching<br />

<strong>the</strong>m for days, down, you know, where <strong>the</strong>y were camped in Golden.<br />

And so <strong>the</strong>n <strong>the</strong>y said, well, <strong>the</strong>y're friendly people, and <strong>the</strong>y were not <strong>the</strong><br />

Prairie Indians, so <strong>the</strong>y must live in this valley somewhere. So <strong>the</strong>n <strong>the</strong>y<br />

kept coming up here and <strong>the</strong>y landed up over <strong>the</strong>re near Athalmer, <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong><br />

hill, you know, those flats <strong>the</strong>re. And so <strong>the</strong>n <strong>the</strong>y'd go back, you<br />

know, back to Squilax and Kamloops. Like my grandfa<strong>the</strong>r [Pierre<br />

Kinbasket] came from, what do you call <strong>the</strong> place, (name). And, well,<br />

after, years after that <strong>of</strong> course, he met my grandmo<strong>the</strong>r -- she lived<br />

around Squilax -- and <strong>the</strong>y married. And so <strong>the</strong>y married and <strong>the</strong>n my<br />

grandfa<strong>the</strong>r came, you see. And he was, I think he was ten or twelve 158<br />

when he was... That's before he was married, <strong>of</strong> course. I mean, when he's<br />

a little boy, he came over with his fa<strong>the</strong>r and <strong>the</strong> men folks and <strong>the</strong>n that<br />

was <strong>the</strong> time <strong>the</strong>y saw David Thomps<strong>on</strong> around Golden.<br />

…………<br />

But <strong>the</strong>y say David Thomps<strong>on</strong> was really sort <strong>of</strong> helpless, you know, in<br />

<strong>the</strong> ways <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> woods. So <strong>the</strong>n <strong>the</strong>y left <strong>the</strong>m al<strong>on</strong>e. They were camped<br />

around <strong>the</strong>re and later <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong>y saw <strong>the</strong>m somewhere else al<strong>on</strong>g <strong>the</strong><br />

Columbia River. And <strong>of</strong> course my people were living near Athalmer<br />

<strong>the</strong>re. And so <strong>on</strong>e day some <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> young fellows were down <strong>the</strong> river<br />

and <strong>the</strong>re was David Thomps<strong>on</strong>, you know, coming al<strong>on</strong>g <strong>the</strong> river again.<br />

And so <strong>the</strong>y went over <strong>the</strong>re by Wilmer, you know, were <strong>the</strong> m<strong>on</strong>ument<br />

is. And that's where <strong>the</strong>y settled. And... <strong>the</strong> Indians used to feed <strong>the</strong>m.<br />

You know, <strong>the</strong>y felt sorry for <strong>the</strong>m because <strong>the</strong>y were so helpless.<br />

.....................<br />

But you know <strong>the</strong> white people always say that <strong>the</strong>y, <strong>the</strong> fort <strong>the</strong>re, in<br />

Invermere, and <strong>the</strong>y have those buildings <strong>the</strong>re, supposed to be a replica<br />

<strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> old fort. But <strong>the</strong> Shuswap Indians and my grandparents tell us that<br />

<strong>the</strong>y have never seen <strong>the</strong>m settle <strong>the</strong>re. They think <strong>the</strong>y might have<br />

stayed <strong>the</strong>re during <strong>the</strong> day, you know, and fished or something. But <strong>the</strong>y<br />

were never seen even camping <strong>the</strong>re. And, you know, I w<strong>on</strong>der about that<br />

and so I've always asked <strong>the</strong> old Indians around Cranbrook and around<br />

here. And even last night I asked about it and <strong>the</strong>y said <strong>the</strong>y have -- <strong>the</strong><br />

158 The 1901 and 1911 Canada census provide a birth date for Pierre Kinbasket <strong>of</strong> 1835. Thus, this account<br />

places <strong>the</strong> migrati<strong>on</strong> at c.1846. It is possible that <strong>the</strong> Canada census data is incorrect. Moses Kinbasket thought that<br />

his grandfa<strong>the</strong>r was born 1826 and died in 1920, and he thought that he, himself, was about 62, born 1858; quoted<br />

in B.R. Atkins (n.d.). “How Shuswap Indians Came to Kootenay One Hundred Years Ago”. Kamloops Museum and<br />

Archives. “Interior Salish – Miscell.”<br />

Bouchard & Kennedy Research C<strong>on</strong>sultants Page 35<br />

Page 38 <strong>of</strong> 200

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