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DRAFT REPORT: Rights and Title Interests in <strong>the</strong> Columbia Valley Transmissi<strong>on</strong> Project Area<br />

There was some c<strong>on</strong>fusi<strong>on</strong> in <strong>the</strong> interview whe<strong>the</strong>r Francois Morigeau was Chief Martin<br />

Morigeau’s grandfa<strong>the</strong>r or great-grandfa<strong>the</strong>r. Regardless, Chief Morigeau had heard about his<br />

ancestor’s encounter with Fa<strong>the</strong>r DeSmet, and he discussed it in this November 1964 interview,<br />

which is excerpted here as it appears <strong>on</strong>line:<br />

Imbert: Tell me about him. What have you heard about him? You know,<br />

that's been passed down in traditi<strong>on</strong>?<br />

Martin: Oh, just that he was in <strong>the</strong> valley, you know, when<br />

<strong>the</strong> first priests come al<strong>on</strong>g. Fa<strong>the</strong>r Desmets(?), and married him and<br />

<strong>the</strong> wife he was travelling with. Supposed to have eight children --<br />

baptized all <strong>the</strong> children and everything, you know. That's what I heard.<br />

Of course I heard that, you know, years afterwards. Of course I d<strong>on</strong>'t<br />

know nothing about it, you know.<br />

Martin: Well, he was working for <strong>the</strong> Huds<strong>on</strong>'s Bay. He come<br />

out from <strong>the</strong> east, you know, worked for <strong>the</strong> Huds<strong>on</strong>'s Bay and he wouldn't,<br />

he didn't like <strong>the</strong> way <strong>the</strong>y were dealing with <strong>the</strong> Indians, you know.<br />

They paid for a muzzle loader gun as much as you are paying for a<br />

cann<strong>on</strong> now, you know. They'd stand <strong>the</strong> gun up and pile <strong>the</strong> fur up to <strong>the</strong><br />

top <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> muzzle; <strong>the</strong> l<strong>on</strong>ger <strong>the</strong> better, you know. There was black fox<br />

and everything else you know. So we figured <strong>the</strong>y were paying about as<br />

much as you would for a cann<strong>on</strong> nowadays. (laughs) So he didn't like<br />

that and he quit <strong>the</strong>m and come over into this country, you know.<br />

And he was <strong>the</strong> first, he went <strong>on</strong> west, you know, around... I forgot <strong>the</strong><br />

name <strong>of</strong> that place.<br />

Imbert:<br />

Martin:<br />

Imbert:<br />

Out <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> valley or in <strong>the</strong>...?<br />

Over in <strong>the</strong> west.<br />

Over to <strong>the</strong> Okanagan?<br />

Martin: Yeah, yeah. It's al<strong>on</strong>g <strong>the</strong> border where you see lots<br />

<strong>of</strong> apple trees, you know. Old apple trees, maybe you've seen it. Big<br />

fields, you know.<br />

Imbert:<br />

Martin:<br />

Imbert :<br />

Martin:<br />

Imbert:<br />

Down at Osoyoos?<br />

It's a little fur<strong>the</strong>r.<br />

Down into <strong>the</strong> States?<br />

Yeah, more in <strong>the</strong> States. I forget <strong>the</strong> name <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> place.<br />

Yeah, Auraville [Oroville, Washingt<strong>on</strong>]?<br />

Bouchard & Kennedy Research C<strong>on</strong>sultants Page 30<br />

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