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DRAFT REPORT: Rights and Title Interests in <strong>the</strong> Columbia Valley Transmissi<strong>on</strong> Project Area<br />

Frank: Well, what I heard about my grandfa<strong>the</strong>r -- his name was old<br />

Louis Paul, and he bel<strong>on</strong>ged to <strong>the</strong> Colville reservati<strong>on</strong> 114 . And<br />

years ago when <strong>the</strong> Huds<strong>on</strong>'s Bay Company and <strong>the</strong> o<strong>the</strong>r companies<br />

that come into <strong>the</strong> country first dealing in furs and gold and o<strong>the</strong>r things,<br />

you know, horses, <strong>the</strong>y had trouble in that... <strong>on</strong>e <strong>of</strong> those ports <strong>the</strong>re in<br />

Colville, Washingt<strong>on</strong>, somewhere in (name). And <strong>the</strong>re was a kind <strong>of</strong> a<br />

battle between <strong>the</strong> Indians and <strong>the</strong> whites. And that's where my<br />

grandfa<strong>the</strong>r got chased and he was just a young boy <strong>the</strong>n. And <strong>the</strong>y<br />

chased him down <strong>the</strong> Columbia right down into <strong>the</strong> Okanagan Falls, you<br />

know, near Kettle Falls in Washingt<strong>on</strong>. And <strong>the</strong>y jumped into <strong>the</strong> river<br />

from <strong>the</strong>re -- <strong>the</strong>re's quite a rapid in <strong>the</strong>re. That's what <strong>the</strong>y call <strong>the</strong> rapids<br />

<strong>the</strong>re at <strong>the</strong> Okanagan Falls, not <strong>the</strong> Okanagan Falls but Kettle Falls. And<br />

<strong>the</strong>y swam down quite a ways into somewhere around (name). Well <strong>the</strong>n<br />

<strong>the</strong>y lost him <strong>the</strong>re. From <strong>the</strong>re just straight over into <strong>the</strong><br />

Pentict<strong>on</strong> country and from <strong>the</strong>re he crossed over into <strong>the</strong> Cranbrook<br />

country. Oh, it took him m<strong>on</strong>ths and m<strong>on</strong>ths to get <strong>the</strong>re. He was <strong>on</strong><br />

<strong>the</strong> Canadian side <strong>the</strong>n. And <strong>the</strong>n from <strong>the</strong>re he settled in <strong>the</strong> Kootenay<br />

country at Athalmere where he got acquainted with a woman and married<br />

<strong>the</strong>re. That's where my fa<strong>the</strong>r was born <strong>the</strong>n. You see how he got away<br />

was in war with those... Well, it was <strong>the</strong> dealers, you know, fur dealers<br />

and everything. There was trouble in <strong>the</strong> camps so <strong>the</strong>y started to fight,<br />

you know, am<strong>on</strong>gst <strong>the</strong> war, like, you know. And that's how my fa<strong>the</strong>r<br />

got away, you know, jumped in <strong>the</strong> river and swam about two, three miles<br />

down <strong>the</strong> river until <strong>the</strong>y lost track <strong>of</strong> him, you know. And <strong>the</strong>n he<br />

straight over into Canada and he never went back ever since. And my<br />

dad was born <strong>the</strong>re around Windermere and growed up and <strong>the</strong>n us, <strong>the</strong><br />

o<strong>the</strong>r generati<strong>on</strong>s. And my grandfa<strong>the</strong>r died at Windermere, Athalmere.<br />

Never went back. So that's where I originate from, from <strong>the</strong> States like,<br />

you know,into Canada. And <strong>on</strong> that same reserve -- <strong>the</strong>y call <strong>the</strong> Little<br />

Shuswap Reserve [at Windermere Lake] -- <strong>the</strong>re's about four tribes <strong>of</strong><br />

Indians in that <strong>on</strong>e little reserve. There's <strong>the</strong> Okanagan, <strong>the</strong> Shuswap, and<br />

<strong>the</strong>re's <strong>the</strong> Kootenay and <strong>the</strong> St<strong>on</strong>eys all mixed in <strong>the</strong>re. They getting <strong>the</strong><br />

women folks, marrying <strong>the</strong>m, and settling in <strong>the</strong>re. 115<br />

The Shuswap Indian Band’s April 2009 study, prepared by Fish Lake C<strong>on</strong>sulting, notes <strong>the</strong><br />

following 116 : “Winnifred Ariel Weir also identified that Paul Ignatius Kinbasket knew David<br />

Thomps<strong>on</strong>, in her book ‘Tales <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> Windermere’ (1980)”[reference given as pp. 122-123 <strong>of</strong><br />

114 Washingt<strong>on</strong> State.<br />

115 Available <strong>on</strong>line: http://dspace.cc.uregina.ca/dspace/bitstream/10294/884/1/IH-<strong>BC</strong>.58.pdf; we have not<br />

had <strong>the</strong> opportunity to check <strong>the</strong> transcript for accuracy.<br />

116 Fish Lake C<strong>on</strong>sulting, <strong>on</strong> behalf <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> Shuswap Indian Band 2009, page 19.<br />

Bouchard & Kennedy Research C<strong>on</strong>sultants Page 23<br />

Page 26 <strong>of</strong> 200

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