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KM: PG: PM: PG: PM: PG: KM: PG: KM: PG: KM: PM: KM: PM: KM: PM: PG: KM: RG: PG: KM: PG: PM: Makai. It’s so broken down. That’s an interesting story. There’s no story on it, is there That it’s an 1850s wall and that it’s still associated with bullock hunting days. Okay. But the bullock hunters, they didn’t go build walls, all they did was catch ‘em and skin ‘em and sell ‘em. If you go through those Bundary Commission texts, when you read, look for the name Kulaka, K-u-l-a-k-a, Kulaka, and you’ll see I wrote it up in the beginning, somewhere in the introduction part of the study. Then when you go into the Boundary Commission texts, you’ll find it in there. It’s one of those few places that we actually have some kind of documentation on. Külaka being the name of the man or it’s place If I recall it’s “Kulaka Cattle Wall” or something like that. A place, an object, yes. Külaka. The Spaniards in Pickering’s 1841 journal describe in a V-shaped corral that they would use. And that was again, still in the bullock hunting days, before the Mähele. They were also building things to, at least to herd in bullocks, corral them before they were slaughtered. That would have been before we even got to Keanakolu, from Pickering’s description. Pickering is published as a separate… It’s not published, it’s just a manuscript, journal [accompanied the Wilkes’ Expedition]. I’ve got notes on it, I can get them to you. I’ve gone through all of Wilkes published stuff. I think it would be interesting to go through the notes. I’ve been pulling out the Missionary letters from the guys who were accompanying him and providing him with information. Trying to track sources of information that he was using. There’s a new book that’s come out in the last couple of years by Nathaniel Philbrick, on the exploring expedition… he had a real interesting note in the journal, it was basically all the pilikia that happened on the Wiltse Expedition and a long story of all the personalities of all the people. One of the things that happened, the chaplain or the doctor made some inappropriate passes at the Hilo Missionary wives. That’s a story that I’ve never heard here yet, so I’m not quite sure if it was Coan or Lyman… Got to be Phildelia, I don’t think Sarah was that attractive [chuckling]... There, that’s the hill, Huikau. Huikau, yes. That was the Huikau section Yes. The hill coming up to it… …Look at all this nice black sand they are getting out here, Rally. See all the car, tire tracks on the side of this pu‘u here, all ripped up. I think this is one of the things that is generating the early trespassing signs. Keeping people, all the bikers and ATVS. Mauna Kea– “Ka Piko Kaulana o ka ‘Äina” Kumu Pono Associates LLC A Collection of Oral History Interviews (HiMK67-050606) A:654

PG: I hate that bike riding and tearing up the place. Very destructive. PM: It’s like graffiti, it’s doing something that leaves a mark that everybody is going to see. PG: It takes a long, long time to… This is the thing, there is no sense of Private Property any more. They think that God made the world for everybody and never mind who pays the taxes, or cherishing, or taking care of it. They feel the world owes this to me. KM: Yes… Well what a beautiful day! PG: Yes. We’ve been lucky. That time that you took us on top of that hill, Ku‘i Kahekili at Waiki‘i KM: Yes. PM: These pu‘u over here are one of my favorite spots. RG: Huikau. KM: Yes, Huikau Pu‘u, Kalai‘eha, so beautiful. I understand Sam Parker had some kölea blinds out here. I guess it was Johnny Ah San or Toshi Imoto, talking about him going out. RG: I never heard of that but it could be. PG: Strange that these pu‘u are so big in this area, and they don’t have any on this side. Down here on this flat there’s three. KM: Beautiful isn’t it…! PM: This has been such a pleasure, to be able to be back here and be a fly on the wall. This is great! PG: Yes. I think everybody has enjoyed it! Trish was talking about it, and the others. Group: [Arrives at paved Mauna Kea access road, above the Kalai‘eha Station; drives back to Waimea. Recorder off then back on.] KM: …Rally, if I may, since we are passing here. Here’s Kalai‘eha Sheep Station section, the old road that you folks used to use cut straight out of this gate. Was this it right across or was it down a little further RG: Right across, yes. KM: On the back side of ‘Oma‘okoili Hill, Wether Paddock RG: Yes, on the right hand side. KM: Okay. The road was there, not down here a little further RG: No, straight across. KM: That’s how it looks like on the old survey, that map I gave you from 1869. RG: Yes, it’s straight across. KM: It’s going to be a little dark but there’s one other thing I’d like to point out to you and see if it looks like anything that you may recognize. There’s Pu‘u Huluhulu in front of us. Right in here, see the dark line right here RG: Yes. KM: That’s a square walled enclosure. Do you remember anything out on this field when you folks were running sheep or anything RG: [thinking] No, I don’t, Kepä. KM: You see that right there it’s house size Mauna Kea– “Ka Piko Kaulana o ka ‘Äina” Kumu Pono Associates LLC A Collection of Oral History Interviews (HiMK67-050606) A:655

PG: I hate that bike riding and tearing up the place. Very destructive.<br />

PM: It’s like graffiti, it’s doing something that leaves a mark that everybody is going to see.<br />

PG: It takes a long, long time to… This is the thing, there is no sense <strong>of</strong> Private Property any<br />

more. They think that God made the world for everybody and never mind who pays the<br />

taxes, or cherishing, or taking care <strong>of</strong> it. They feel the world owes this to me.<br />

KM: Yes… Well what a beautiful day!<br />

PG: Yes. We’ve been lucky. That time that you took us on top <strong>of</strong> that hill, Ku‘i Kahekili at<br />

Waiki‘i<br />

KM: Yes.<br />

PM: These pu‘u over here are one <strong>of</strong> my favorite spots.<br />

RG: Huikau.<br />

KM: Yes, Huikau Pu‘u, Kalai‘eha, so beautiful. I understand Sam Parker had some kölea<br />

blinds out here. I guess it was Johnny Ah San or Toshi Imoto, talking about him going<br />

out.<br />

RG: I never heard <strong>of</strong> that but it could be.<br />

PG: Strange that these pu‘u are so big in this area, and they don’t have any on this side.<br />

Down here on this flat there’s three.<br />

KM: Beautiful isn’t it…!<br />

PM: This has been such a pleasure, to be able to be back here and be a fly on the wall. This<br />

is great!<br />

PG: Yes. I think everybody has enjoyed it! Trish was talking about it, and the others.<br />

Group: [Arrives at paved <strong>Mauna</strong> <strong>Kea</strong> access road, above the Kalai‘eha Station; drives back to<br />

Waimea. Recorder <strong>of</strong>f then back on.]<br />

KM: …Rally, if I may, since we are passing here. Here’s Kalai‘eha Sheep Station section, the<br />

old road that you folks used to use cut straight out <strong>of</strong> this gate. Was this it right across or<br />

was it down a little further<br />

RG: Right across, yes.<br />

KM: On the back side <strong>of</strong> ‘Oma‘okoili Hill, Wether Paddock<br />

RG: Yes, on the right hand side.<br />

KM: Okay. The road was there, not down here a little further<br />

RG: No, straight across.<br />

KM: That’s how it looks like on the old survey, that map I gave you from 1869.<br />

RG: Yes, it’s straight across.<br />

KM: It’s going to be a little dark but there’s one other thing I’d like to point out to you and see if<br />

it looks like anything that you may recognize. There’s Pu‘u Huluhulu in front <strong>of</strong> us. Right<br />

in here, see the dark line right here<br />

RG: Yes.<br />

KM: That’s a square walled enclosure. Do you remember anything out on this field when you<br />

folks were running sheep or anything<br />

RG: [thinking] No, I don’t, Kepä.<br />

KM: You see that right there it’s house size<br />

<strong>Mauna</strong> <strong>Kea</strong>– “Ka Piko Kaulana o ka ‘Äina”<br />

Kumu Pono Associates LLC<br />

A Collection <strong>of</strong> <strong>Oral</strong> <strong>History</strong> Interviews (HiMK67-050606) A:655

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