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HH: That was when I was Chairman. KM: About HH: That was 1963 or ‘64. KM: Wow, that’s interesting! I understand that Tom Vance really had an affiliation for the mountain lands. He loved the views from that “Road to no where,” across to Mauna Kea like that. Had you gone up to Mauna Kea at all in those earlier years in the ‘50s or ‘60s HH: Yes. When we taught the first year, we liked to take our students around the various places, and so we took a group, my husband’s 9 th grade students up to the old cabins that were up there. KM: Yes. HH: The old stone cabins. KM: Yes, the old Hale Pöhaku area. Made her first trip to Mauna Kea around 1949: HH: Hale Pöhaku, yes. We stayed over night, in fact, I remember trying to walk up, and I was much younger, I tried to walk up to the snow which was, we were at about 9,000 feet, maybe it was 10,000 or 11,000 feet, there was snow on the mountain. KM: Wow! HH: It was pretty rough, I never quite made it to the snow. [chuckling] KM: Yes. Were you following a trail or just trekking along HH: I think there must have been a trail, we couldn’t have gone over the rough lava. KM: This would have been still in the ‘50s when you and your husband HH: This would have been [thinking] in the early ‘50s probably or the late ‘40s, in fact it was while my husband was teaching and he only taught one year. KM: Okay. HH: It was in the late ‘40s. KM: Yes, late ‘40s. You folks, did you come out of Kona, on old Mämalahoa and turn up past Waiki‘i HH: Yes. We came up the Saddle Road that had been built by the military. KM: The army, yes. It was pretty much paved right HH: Yes. KM: Interesting. So you folks stayed, what an experience for the students, to take them out in the field. I bet not many teachers were doing those kind of activities. HH: Not many teachers were doing anything, to take students. We took our students to Hilo to see the circus, we felt that that kind of experience was more valuable than studying a book. KM: So when did you become the Chairman of the Board of Supervisors HH: In 1962, I was elected. KM: You must of just blown so many people away, I mean just mind boggling. To think, first woman, and that you had come from afar also and fit in. Mauna Kea– “Ka Piko Kaulana o ka ‘Äina” Kumu Pono Associates LLC A Collection of Oral History Interviews (HiMK67-050606) A:604
HH: I had no family [chuckling]. Only myself, my daughter. The fact is, that when I was on the Board of Supervisors, I guess because I was a woman, and because I was kind of a maverick, I didn’t get along with the system at all, and was always speaking up. I got a lot of publicity. And I helped a lot of people out of my district go through the bureaucracy or whatever their problems were. I would listen to everybody. So I got a reputation I guess, and that’s what put me through because it certainly wasn’t money or family or connections [chuckling]. But in those days the ILWU is beginning to flex their muscles too, and I did have labor support, and support of the people. Introduces discussion on conditions in Hilo Community following the 1960 tsunami; arrival of Dr. Gerard Kuiper; and involvement of Mitsuo Akiyama in development on Mauna Kea: KM: Yes, that’s great. We had mentioned in 1960, the tsunami or tidal wave, had this devastating effect on Hilo. As I understand it, that was in part an impetus… When did you meet Dr. Gerard Kuiper HH: I can’t quite remember his name… [thinking] , Mitsuo Akiyama, you probably interviewed him, the Japanese Head who was the Executive Director for the Chamber of Commerce KM: Unfortunately he passed away before I could speak with him. HH: Yes, he’s passed away. In fact, at one time, there was talk about naming the road after him because he had the vision of Astronomy. I don’t know where he got it. He was the one that corresponded with Dr. Kuiper and other astronomers, to tell them that this mountain was here, in an ideal place. He was the one responsible for bringing Dr. Kuiper over. And when he did, he took him to my office which was kind of protocol, you go up there first. And that’s how I met him. KM: Amazing! This was about ’60 HH: I was always interested in Astronomy even as a young child I remember as a child, my father taking me to the University of Minnesota, there was a telescope. I remember looking through it at the moon and looking for “man in the moon [chuckling].” It looked like green cheese, I remember saying that. I had as a child been stimulated to being interested, and it seemed to me… We were, you see, in ’62 we were recovering from the tidal wave, a lot of our big industrial area was just gone. Things like HPM had to rebuild. Actually, we were looking for new activities, and it just seemed to me at that time… Although, when I came to Kona, I lived in South Kona. It was the only place we could buy fee simple land. Everything else was leased, and we weren’t going to get tied into that system. So this person, Howard Redfern, had gotten a hold of some land, he had a Hawaiian wife, and he had built what was known as the Ohia Lodge. KM: Yes, you were way out there. You were way out in the country then HH: We were way out in the boon-docks. We had no electricity, we had to have generators, and we had a crank telephone. KM: In 1950 HH: It was a Hawaiian Community basically, Ala‘ë School. KM: Yes, Ala‘ë School. HH: It was almost 98% percent Hawaiian, if not more. My daughter was brought up in a Hawaiian Community, and because I was active, I had to leave her. We had help from the Hawaiian Community. We were a very close knit community in ‘Öpihihale. KM: That’s right. HH: Unfortunately, I never learned Hawaiian, because in those days Hawaiian wasn’t spoken very much. We didn’t have that cultural revival. In ‘Öpihihale, the Hawaiians did speak Hawaiian, I learned a little bit but not very much. Mauna Kea– “Ka Piko Kaulana o ka ‘Äina” Kumu Pono Associates LLC A Collection of Oral History Interviews (HiMK67-050606) A:605
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HH: That was when I was Chairman.<br />
KM: About<br />
HH: That was 1963 or ‘64.<br />
KM: Wow, that’s interesting! I understand that Tom Vance really had an affiliation for the<br />
mountain lands. He loved the views from that “Road to no where,” across to <strong>Mauna</strong> <strong>Kea</strong><br />
like that. Had you gone up to <strong>Mauna</strong> <strong>Kea</strong> at all in those earlier years in the ‘50s or ‘60s<br />
HH: Yes. When we taught the first year, we liked to take our students around the various<br />
places, and so we took a group, my husband’s 9 th grade students up to the old cabins<br />
that were up there.<br />
KM: Yes.<br />
HH: The old stone cabins.<br />
KM: Yes, the old Hale Pöhaku area.<br />
Made her first trip to <strong>Mauna</strong> <strong>Kea</strong> around 1949:<br />
HH: Hale Pöhaku, yes. We stayed over night, in fact, I remember trying to walk up, and I was<br />
much younger, I tried to walk up to the snow which was, we were at about 9,000 feet,<br />
maybe it was 10,000 or 11,000 feet, there was snow on the mountain.<br />
KM: Wow!<br />
HH: It was pretty rough, I never quite made it to the snow. [chuckling]<br />
KM: Yes. Were you following a trail or just trekking along<br />
HH: I think there must have been a trail, we couldn’t have gone over the rough lava.<br />
KM: This would have been still in the ‘50s when you and your husband<br />
HH: This would have been [thinking] in the early ‘50s probably or the late ‘40s, in fact it was<br />
while my husband was teaching and he only taught one year.<br />
KM: Okay.<br />
HH: It was in the late ‘40s.<br />
KM: Yes, late ‘40s. You folks, did you come out <strong>of</strong> Kona, on old Mämalahoa and turn up past<br />
Waiki‘i<br />
HH: Yes. We came up the Saddle Road that had been built by the military.<br />
KM: The army, yes. It was pretty much paved right<br />
HH: Yes.<br />
KM: Interesting. So you folks stayed, what an experience for the students, to take them out in<br />
the field. I bet not many teachers were doing those kind <strong>of</strong> activities.<br />
HH: Not many teachers were doing anything, to take students. We took our students to Hilo to<br />
see the circus, we felt that that kind <strong>of</strong> experience was more valuable than studying a<br />
book.<br />
KM: So when did you become the Chairman <strong>of</strong> the Board <strong>of</strong> Supervisors<br />
HH: In 1962, I was elected.<br />
KM: You must <strong>of</strong> just blown so many people away, I mean just mind boggling. To think, first<br />
woman, and that you had come from afar also and fit in.<br />
<strong>Mauna</strong> <strong>Kea</strong>– “Ka Piko Kaulana o ka ‘Äina”<br />
Kumu Pono Associates LLC<br />
A Collection <strong>of</strong> <strong>Oral</strong> <strong>History</strong> Interviews (HiMK67-050606) A:604