Mauna Kea Oral History Appendix - Office of Mauna Kea Management
Mauna Kea Oral History Appendix - Office of Mauna Kea Management Mauna Kea Oral History Appendix - Office of Mauna Kea Management
DN: KM: DN: KM: DN: KM: BR: DN: HK: RG: Group: DN: KM: DN: PG: DN: HK: Group: EK: HK: KM: HK: Group: KM: DN: EK: DN: KM: Group: KM: BB: Very different. The ranch when you were…when you folks started working, when you were growing up. The ranch provided housing, is that correct Yes. Did you have a supply of certain kinds of foods or things No. We had to buy our own food. You bought Except for the meat. We had milk, meat and butter. Meat, butter, milk. Poi. Poi. And rice. The poi came from Waipi‘o Yes. And rice too The Japanese families. The Parker Ranch under the management of…from Parker’s to Alfred W. Carter, the plan was to have good workers. So, the boys stay home work on the ranch. The girls, you got to be good mothers, so the girls got to go to school to learn to be good mothers. [laughing] And to make lunch cans which is not done today. I had a bunch of school boys working in the summer, as well as on Saturdays. The plan was to teach them how to work. No matter what it is, learn how to work. And those boys can work. They really worked. Yes. The girls, I don’t know [laughing] Watch out, your wife has her ko‘oko‘o. We had to learn to wash, cook, and how to spend our monies. Our parents gave us just a limited amount of money, and it had to last us. We had twenty-five cents a week, it was for shopping. Exactly. Twenty-five cents, that’s one loaf of bread. [chuckling] Hmm. Kauka, you had a question about the school Yes, if anyone can remember, because I’ve come across letters where A.W. was writing to the Territorial Department of Education, recommending that she come up here and teach. And I think that she came up about three or four years. It may have been at a different time, but Betsy Lindsey-Pieper. Mauna Kea– “Ka Piko Kaulana o ka ‘Äina” Kumu Pono Associates LLC A Collection of Oral History Interviews (HiMK67-050606) A:542
DN/BR: DN: BB: DN: KM: Group: KM: KL: KM: KL: RG: DN: HK: KM: HK: KM: HK: KM: HK: KM: HK: KM: HK: KM: HK: Group: KM: HK: Yes. Before we came, she was the teacher, and then Medeiros came in to replace her. And she went to Ka‘ü. And then after Mr. Medeiros left, Mrs. Buzzard was our teacher. Interesting, Some history. [pauses] This is perhaps one important point and then we’ll let you guys go. We don’t mean to luhi you folks. But do you remember the weather then compared to today And all of you have shared with me in your interviews that you’ve seen changes in the weather. What was the weather like back in the ‘30s or ‘40s, and when did it change Do you have some thoughts about that, or recollections [thinking] More rain today than before or less Less. Less. Before, more rain. It all depends on what they’re talking about, maybe the last month they had more rain than they used to have. But before, used to get good rain, but then it dried up. That’s why the corn could grow, we had rain. Well, I did a lot of walking and work on the ranch, and you carry your lunch tin, you carry your tools, and walk out and work. And you never get out to work without a jacket, without a hat. You must have a hat, because you don’t know when it’s going to rain. I recall we get so many thunder storms, lightning was quite frequent. Yes. And I would say we had far more rainfall that time than today. Yes. By seasons you know. We had dry seasons but we had wet seasons. And the wet season was terrible, it was gray. And Waimea Village, for instance, take Waimea Village, lot’s of times we were flooded. You mentioned lightning strikes and you brought a photo. Lightning strike and hit our home. Have you ever seen a lightning hit a home No. I seen lightning strike the house. You have a photo with you. Yes, I have a photo. Of some poor pipi that… I have a photo which is above Leslie’s place. [holding photo] These nice looking animals died from lightning. Wow! It was lightning strike. There’s what, six cows in there or something I would say about six. Pu‘u Anuanu up about 7,000 feet. Mauna Kea– “Ka Piko Kaulana o ka ‘Äina” Kumu Pono Associates LLC A Collection of Oral History Interviews (HiMK67-050606) A:543
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Yes.<br />
Before we came, she was the teacher, and then Medeiros came in to replace her.<br />
And she went to Ka‘ü.<br />
And then after Mr. Medeiros left, Mrs. Buzzard was our teacher.<br />
Interesting, Some history. [pauses] This is perhaps one important point and then we’ll let<br />
you guys go. We don’t mean to luhi you folks. But do you remember the weather then<br />
compared to today And all <strong>of</strong> you have shared with me in your interviews that you’ve<br />
seen changes in the weather. What was the weather like back in the ‘30s or ‘40s, and<br />
when did it change Do you have some thoughts about that, or recollections<br />
[thinking]<br />
More rain today than before or less<br />
Less.<br />
Less.<br />
Before, more rain.<br />
It all depends on what they’re talking about, maybe the last month they had more rain<br />
than they used to have. But before, used to get good rain, but then it dried up.<br />
That’s why the corn could grow, we had rain.<br />
Well, I did a lot <strong>of</strong> walking and work on the ranch, and you carry your lunch tin, you carry<br />
your tools, and walk out and work. And you never get out to work without a jacket,<br />
without a hat. You must have a hat, because you don’t know when it’s going to rain. I<br />
recall we get so many thunder storms, lightning was quite frequent.<br />
Yes.<br />
And I would say we had far more rainfall that time than today.<br />
Yes.<br />
By seasons you know. We had dry seasons but we had wet seasons. And the wet<br />
season was terrible, it was gray. And Waimea Village, for instance, take Waimea Village,<br />
lot’s <strong>of</strong> times we were flooded.<br />
You mentioned lightning strikes and you brought a photo.<br />
Lightning strike and hit our home. Have you ever seen a lightning hit a home<br />
No.<br />
I seen lightning strike the house.<br />
You have a photo with you.<br />
Yes, I have a photo.<br />
Of some poor pipi that…<br />
I have a photo which is above Leslie’s place. [holding photo] These nice looking animals<br />
died from lightning.<br />
Wow!<br />
It was lightning strike. There’s what, six cows in there or something<br />
I would say about six. Pu‘u Anuanu up about 7,000 feet.<br />
<strong>Mauna</strong> <strong>Kea</strong>– “Ka Piko Kaulana o ka ‘Äina”<br />
Kumu Pono Associates LLC<br />
A Collection <strong>of</strong> <strong>Oral</strong> <strong>History</strong> Interviews (HiMK67-050606) A:543