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Mauna Kea Oral History Appendix - Office of Mauna Kea Management

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RG: Yes, keep them calm and they don’t have to… If they’re going this way [gestures side to<br />

side] they’re going to get more tired.<br />

KM: So, if they’re going back and forth across the land<br />

RG: That’s right.<br />

PG: The boss man stays behind, so he can see what’s going on.<br />

RG: Yes.<br />

KM: The boss was behind the crew, watching.<br />

RG: But nowadays, what I saw… [pointing to recorder] Is it <strong>of</strong>f<br />

KM: We turned it back on. I wanted to get your historic description <strong>of</strong> how you drove them<br />

down. Let me ask a question though, were there times, particularly if the cattle coming <strong>of</strong>f<br />

the mountain like you described bring ‘em back Hänaipoe out to Makahälau down. Were<br />

there times that you folks, did they kau lei sometimes, did they when they were coming<br />

out <strong>of</strong>f the mountains, put on lei <strong>of</strong> maile Were there fun times out there Talking story<br />

and…<br />

RG: In Kona, Kauhökü [Kaukahökü at <strong>Kea</strong>uhou] you mentioned Kauhökü. That was Bishop<br />

Estate land, leased to my father. That Kauhökü land was used to fatten cattle and we<br />

used to go over there and get cattle to come out to ship. We went there, the place was<br />

loaded with maile. Some <strong>of</strong> the nicest maile lauli‘i that you could find was from that<br />

Kauhökü land. When we came out, everybody had a maile lei. Then we’d go down Kailua<br />

and you’d show <strong>of</strong>f your maile lei, everybody wore a maile lei. There was a lot <strong>of</strong> maile.<br />

KM: Kaukahökü, is that around 5,000 [elevation] Do you recall<br />

RG: I would say a little less, maybe 4,500.<br />

KM: Was there still some ‘öhi‘a forest<br />

RG: Yes, ‘öhi‘a, koa, some sandalwood, naio. The naio was false sandalwood, as you know.<br />

KM: Yes.<br />

PG: Very majestic.<br />

KM: ‘Ie‘ie still up in the trees, the vine, the small climbing hala<br />

RG: Kauhökü, there wasn’t too much.<br />

KM: Maybe too high<br />

RG:<br />

KM:<br />

RG:<br />

PG:<br />

RG:<br />

PG:<br />

RG:<br />

KM:<br />

RG:<br />

‘Ie‘ie, no, I don’t think it was, just maybe hadn’t grown there. Same elevation over at<br />

Kaloko, Honoköhau. Honua‘ula there was a lot <strong>of</strong> ‘ie‘ie.<br />

Hinakapo‘ula is mauka <strong>of</strong>, just a little above the mauka boundary <strong>of</strong> Honoköhau In the<br />

forest below that area, which is that line, Kaloko, Honoköhau like that<br />

Yes, there was ‘ie‘ie and maile.<br />

It was the thick ‘ie‘ie too. Wasn’t that the stuff that you had to go through tunnels<br />

Yes.<br />

It’s a wall yeah The cattle went through in tunnels.<br />

But the cowboys did have fun, they put on their fancy maile leis. There was a lot <strong>of</strong><br />

joking.<br />

Mahone Ka‘eo, you remember<br />

Very well.<br />

<strong>Mauna</strong> <strong>Kea</strong>– “Ka Piko Kaulana o ka ‘Äina”<br />

Kumu Pono Associates LLC<br />

A Collection <strong>of</strong> <strong>Oral</strong> <strong>History</strong> Interviews (HiMK67-050606) A:48

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