Mauna Kea Oral History Appendix - Office of Mauna Kea Management
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today. It’s a commercial corn, field corn and after he harvested the corn, there were loads of pohä plants growing. KM: Wow! HK: And when I saw that I went to see that person, Mr. Payne. I told Mr. Payne, “Can I get in your corn field that you already harvested I want to pick those pohä.” He said, “Go, right ahead. Just report to my caretaker, how many bags of pohä you pick a day.” KM: Yes. HK: So my mother-in-law, her cousins, all helped me, every day we go and pick pohä by the bags, by the bags! KM: Wow! HK: And I shipped ‘em out to Honolulu. That’s what I was doing. This lasted for four months. KM: [chuckling] When no more pohä, no can work right HK: After about four months I was approached by Parker Ranch. They sent a lady, Hartwell Carter’s sister to come and see me, “We want you back on the ranch.” So I came back on the ranch after that. The reason why they wanted me back on the ranch was to start a Victory Garden for all the employees and residents of Waimea. KM: Oh, yes. HK: All of the Waimea residents were requesting a Victory Garden. They gave me a crew of about six men to start. Any one wants a Victory Garden, we are to respond and prepare a garden. KM: So, in their yards like that HK: Clear their land, get everything, soil preparation, took little time, and then we have to fence it off because lot of…almost everybody has chickens in the backyard. KM: Right, right. HK: We established a Victory Garden to all those who requested. And I ordered all the vegetable seeds, purchased by the ranch. And I make my monthly inspection of their garden. KM: Yes, yes, oh. This was during the war or… HK: Just before the war. KM: Oh, just before the war. HK: In 1939, ‘40. KM: Was that when you, you had just done the pohä for a little while, and then you went and started the Victory Garden or the Victory Garden was first HK: Victory Garden was after. KM: Okay. That was quite a program, so that each of the families would have vegetables and things that they needed yes HK: That’s right. This is a community wide project you know, it’s not necessarily just for the ranch families. The relationship between Parker Ranch and the community was just like one happy family. KM: Wonderful! HK: We even sacrificed one of our pasture lands that we plowed, tilled the land and we planted Irish potato. Mauna Kea– “Ka Piko Kaulana o ka ‘Äina” Kumu Pono Associates LLC A Collection of Oral History Interviews (HiMK67-050606) A:512
KM: HK: KM: HK: KM: HK: KM: HK: KM: HK: KM: HK: KM: HK: KM: HK: HK/KM: HK: KM: HK: KM: HK: KM: HK: KM: HK: KM: HK: KM: HK: KM: HK: Oh! For basic food. Yes. Did Hartwell’s sister marry a Podmore That’s the one. That’s the one. Podmore was sort of a retailer, what do you call that [thinking], a distributor. Yes, distributor. Do you remember what her name was Hartwell’s sister who married Edie, Edie Podmore. Edie Podmore and Podmore’s first name Oh, my gosh [thinking]. I think was, I wonder if, I’m not sure, maybe it was Ernest Podmore. I’m not sure. Okay. They started the potatoes and stuff like that Yes. And then over in Kohala section of our ranch we plowed an area because of the weather conditions, we thought might be ideal for plant kidney beans. Oh! One whole pasture, all kidney beans. And did it work [chuckling] The kidney beans, they didn’t do too well. [chuckling] That requires labor again. The Irish potato, oh my gosh. You got to grade that potato by hand and ship it to Honolulu. Wow! Were the potatoes good though, when you got them Yes, yes, clean, no scabs on ‘em, was nice. Yes, Mr. Podmore’s name is Ernest. Ernest Podmore Ernest Podmore. Okay. Hmm. So the ranch has entered into just all kinds of activities yes, over it’s history Yes. What made Alfred Carter so concerned about establishing the Victory Garden, in case of emergency we can have food. Yes. For the people, yes. Yes. Only thing I can think about the reason why he wanted to start it, is he lived during the First World War, Parker Ranch took a very important step toward providing food. That’s right. The First World War the shortage of food made Mr. Carter realize that we need to get some food, so he started the corn industry up Waiki‘i, corn meal. Waiki‘i used to produce lot of corn meal for human consumption. Oh, so that’s early, once the World War I broke out, that was the idea Yes, that’s right. Mauna Kea– “Ka Piko Kaulana o ka ‘Äina” Kumu Pono Associates LLC A Collection of Oral History Interviews (HiMK67-050606) A:513
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today. It’s a commercial corn, field corn and after he harvested the corn, there were loads<br />
<strong>of</strong> pohä plants growing.<br />
KM: Wow!<br />
HK: And when I saw that I went to see that person, Mr. Payne. I told Mr. Payne, “Can I get in<br />
your corn field that you already harvested I want to pick those pohä.” He said, “Go, right<br />
ahead. Just report to my caretaker, how many bags <strong>of</strong> pohä you pick a day.”<br />
KM: Yes.<br />
HK: So my mother-in-law, her cousins, all helped me, every day we go and pick pohä by the<br />
bags, by the bags!<br />
KM: Wow!<br />
HK: And I shipped ‘em out to Honolulu. That’s what I was doing. This lasted for four months.<br />
KM: [chuckling] When no more pohä, no can work right<br />
HK: After about four months I was approached by Parker Ranch. They sent a lady, Hartwell<br />
Carter’s sister to come and see me, “We want you back on the ranch.” So I came back<br />
on the ranch after that. The reason why they wanted me back on the ranch was to start a<br />
Victory Garden for all the employees and residents <strong>of</strong> Waimea.<br />
KM: Oh, yes.<br />
HK: All <strong>of</strong> the Waimea residents were requesting a Victory Garden. They gave me a crew <strong>of</strong><br />
about six men to start. Any one wants a Victory Garden, we are to respond and prepare<br />
a garden.<br />
KM: So, in their yards like that<br />
HK: Clear their land, get everything, soil preparation, took little time, and then we have to<br />
fence it <strong>of</strong>f because lot <strong>of</strong>…almost everybody has chickens in the backyard.<br />
KM: Right, right.<br />
HK: We established a Victory Garden to all those who requested. And I ordered all the<br />
vegetable seeds, purchased by the ranch. And I make my monthly inspection <strong>of</strong> their<br />
garden.<br />
KM: Yes, yes, oh. This was during the war or…<br />
HK: Just before the war.<br />
KM: Oh, just before the war.<br />
HK: In 1939, ‘40.<br />
KM: Was that when you, you had just done the pohä for a little while, and then you went and<br />
started the Victory Garden or the Victory Garden was first<br />
HK: Victory Garden was after.<br />
KM: Okay. That was quite a program, so that each <strong>of</strong> the families would have vegetables and<br />
things that they needed yes<br />
HK: That’s right. This is a community wide project you know, it’s not necessarily just for the<br />
ranch families. The relationship between Parker Ranch and the community was just like<br />
one happy family.<br />
KM: Wonderful!<br />
HK:<br />
We even sacrificed one <strong>of</strong> our pasture lands that we plowed, tilled the land and we<br />
planted Irish potato.<br />
<strong>Mauna</strong> <strong>Kea</strong>– “Ka Piko Kaulana o ka ‘Äina”<br />
Kumu Pono Associates LLC<br />
A Collection <strong>of</strong> <strong>Oral</strong> <strong>History</strong> Interviews (HiMK67-050606) A:512