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BR: You went from Wai‘aka and then you went up to the radio station JH: Waiki‘i. And then before the war started about [thinking] six months or a year before the war. Before, I was working on the radio station, I went over to work on the ranch. And later, A.W. came up, he told me, “Hey, I got job for you, the radio station. The guy over there got hurt, you’re going to take his place.” I say, “Hey, I don’t know anything about the damn place. I never worked there in my life. I don’t want to go over there.” He tells me, “I’ve got it all taken care of. You know Ralph” Yes, I know who he is, I see him. I talked to him when he come up here to Waiki‘i.” “You go and see Ralph, tell him I said, you’re coming over there.” KM: What was Ralph’s name JH: Ralph Buzzard. KM: Buzzard. Okay. That’s the Mutual Telephone Company, Mac Hill, just below the houses JH: Just below, the houses, yes. KM: Oh yes. JH: He says, “You go and see Buzzard tell him, I sent you.” I didn’t go see the telephone company for a job. But I went over there and I worked for the telephone company. KM: Wow! JH: Old man Carter arranged everything, it was done. I couldn’t tell him, “No, I ain’t going.” KM: [chuckling] JH: The next day I would find, I ain’t got no job. KM: No job! [chuckles] JH: It was a matter of where he sent you, you go. KM: Well, he trusted you. JH: But I told him “I like to go hunting.” He said, “You go work over there, you want to go hunting with the ranch guys up here, Tony and them. “You go tell Alex, get a spare horse and you can go hunting any time. Go with the ranch guys and go hunt with them.” I was the only outsider, I was working for outside place. I could go hunt on the ranch. Hunt pheasant, hunt all over the place. He told me “It will be the same as working for the ranch. You can go hunting.” And he gave the radio station free milk and everything. KM: Yes. How many, was it just you and your wife or other families JH: No. Only the wife and I. KM: Only the two of you JH: Yes. We were down at the radio station. Buzzard and the wife lived over there. BR: That’s my earliest memories of him, Jess, is at the radio station. I remember going and they played cribbage late into the night, and we would curl up wherever we could find to sleep. While my parents, him and Minnie would play cribbage. You remember that JH: Yes. BR: Poker or whatever you played, kämau. KM: Kämau [chuckling]. JH: Kämau, famous game, endless game. KM: You stayed with the radio company Mauna Kea– “Ka Piko Kaulana o ka ‘Äina” Kumu Pono Associates LLC A Collection of Oral History Interviews (HiMK67-050606) A:440
JH: KM: JH: KM: JH: KM: JH: BR: KM: JH: KM: JH: KM: JH: KM: JH: KM: BR: KM: BR: I stayed with them, yes. For, a few years or during the war A couple years. Then the radio station in Honolulu, the guy got hurt, old Souza was working by himself. Souza was working at the radio station by Wahiawä, right north of ‘Ewa, up on the mountains there. So I told Ralph, “Hey, get a guy from Hilo up here, and more better I go to Honolulu and work for Souza for a couple months. Then he can get a man from Honolulu train him and bring ‘um up.” I tell ‘um, “as soon as the guy come back, I’m coming back, I ain’t going stay Honolulu.” Right, right. They talked to Souza, so “go ahead.” So I went Honolulu. Wow! I stayed over there about six months, that’s when the damn war came along. The Second World War caught me in Honolulu. He was there during the war. So, it caught you in Honolulu, when the attack came Oh yes, right down there, we were right there. That’s why I used to laugh, if the Japanese wanted, they could have sent troops, take the whole damn island. I know the morning…the wife’s sister lived down at her place in Honolulu. And her husband and I were standing out on the porch, they had a veranda around the house, second story up. It was actually a big rooming house, had about fifty guys worked Pearl Harbor were staying there. Wow! So I said, “Tell your sister come on, we’re going down Käne‘ohe fishing,” that day. Then I said “Look out there, look at these damn planes coming in.” Diamond Head side. “Ah, that’s just maneuvers.” Sunday morning, that’s just maneuvers. I said “Hey, knucklehead, look at that plane. That’s not no star on top there, that’s the rising sun.” “Nah, that’s just maneuver’s, don’t worry about it.” I tell ‘um, “Hey, you blind, you bugga, that’s Japanese planes.” “…Tell the girls to hurry up! So they were flying by. Then about a couple minutes later, they just fly over Honolulu we hear “rrrrrrrr” [dropping of] booms, they dropped two, three bombs right hit there. “Hey, you fella, you mean to say they drop bombs in Honolulu I told you that’s Japanese planes, that’s not American planes.” You could see the pilot inside. It was so damn low. So close I turn the radio on. They were still playing music, they weren’t even saying anything. Then the music shut down, afterwards you hear “Air raid, air raid!” Then that’s when they found out they were bombing Pearl Harbor! Wow! And your radio station was where Poamoho, up high on the mountain. The radio stations those days were up there, it had to be high just like at Waiki‘i, because those days it was in line of sight. They don’t dare have nothing in between, any mountain. Like at Waiki‘i, it just barely clipped the horizon. Barbara, who was the ‘ohana that he’s talking, your mama’s… That was Minnie’s sister. Minnie’s sister. Who was it Was it Rose Mauna Kea– “Ka Piko Kaulana o ka ‘Äina” Kumu Pono Associates LLC A Collection of Oral History Interviews (HiMK67-050606) A:441
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BR: You went from Wai‘aka and then you went up to the radio station<br />
JH: Waiki‘i. And then before the war started about [thinking] six months or a year before the<br />
war. Before, I was working on the radio station, I went over to work on the ranch. And<br />
later, A.W. came up, he told me, “Hey, I got job for you, the radio station. The guy over<br />
there got hurt, you’re going to take his place.” I say, “Hey, I don’t know anything about the<br />
damn place. I never worked there in my life. I don’t want to go over there.” He tells me,<br />
“I’ve got it all taken care <strong>of</strong>. You know Ralph” Yes, I know who he is, I see him. I talked<br />
to him when he come up here to Waiki‘i.” “You go and see Ralph, tell him I said, you’re<br />
coming over there.”<br />
KM: What was Ralph’s name<br />
JH: Ralph Buzzard.<br />
KM: Buzzard. Okay. That’s the Mutual Telephone Company, Mac Hill, just below the houses<br />
JH: Just below, the houses, yes.<br />
KM: Oh yes.<br />
JH: He says, “You go and see Buzzard tell him, I sent you.” I didn’t go see the telephone<br />
company for a job. But I went over there and I worked for the telephone company.<br />
KM: Wow!<br />
JH: Old man Carter arranged everything, it was done. I couldn’t tell him, “No, I ain’t going.”<br />
KM: [chuckling]<br />
JH: The next day I would find, I ain’t got no job.<br />
KM: No job! [chuckles]<br />
JH: It was a matter <strong>of</strong> where he sent you, you go.<br />
KM: Well, he trusted you.<br />
JH: But I told him “I like to go hunting.” He said, “You go work over there, you want to go<br />
hunting with the ranch guys up here, Tony and them. “You go tell Alex, get a spare horse<br />
and you can go hunting any time. Go with the ranch guys and go hunt with them.” I was<br />
the only outsider, I was working for outside place. I could go hunt on the ranch. Hunt<br />
pheasant, hunt all over the place. He told me “It will be the same as working for the<br />
ranch. You can go hunting.” And he gave the radio station free milk and everything.<br />
KM: Yes. How many, was it just you and your wife or other families<br />
JH: No. Only the wife and I.<br />
KM: Only the two <strong>of</strong> you<br />
JH: Yes. We were down at the radio station. Buzzard and the wife lived over there.<br />
BR: That’s my earliest memories <strong>of</strong> him, Jess, is at the radio station. I remember going and<br />
they played cribbage late into the night, and we would curl up wherever we could find to<br />
sleep. While my parents, him and Minnie would play cribbage. You remember that<br />
JH: Yes.<br />
BR: Poker or whatever you played, kämau.<br />
KM: Kämau [chuckling].<br />
JH: Kämau, famous game, endless game.<br />
KM: You stayed with the radio company<br />
<strong>Mauna</strong> <strong>Kea</strong>– “Ka Piko Kaulana o ka ‘Äina”<br />
Kumu Pono Associates LLC<br />
A Collection <strong>of</strong> <strong>Oral</strong> <strong>History</strong> Interviews (HiMK67-050606) A:440