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Mauna Kea Oral History Appendix - Office of Mauna Kea Management

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Yes.<br />

I understand John Giffin, the Wildlife Biologist told me that they went down 4,200 feet,<br />

they found real good water in there.<br />

Oh yeah, oh.<br />

They pump, pump, pump, never going down, strong water. There’s plenty water in there<br />

it looks like.<br />

Good, good.<br />

I think they spent, whoever did that, they spent a lot <strong>of</strong> money.<br />

Yes. And this is the important thing though ‘cause the land has so much, but if you take<br />

too much, pilikia right<br />

Yes, they come in with salt water.<br />

That water there has been building up for thousands and thousands <strong>of</strong> years.<br />

Yes.<br />

You know when the observatories were starting to go on to <strong>Mauna</strong> <strong>Kea</strong>. ‘Cause you were<br />

working there already when they put the road up. Teddy Bell, Alex’s son was one <strong>of</strong> the<br />

guys who bulldozed to make the road.<br />

Oh.<br />

He said that Forestry people were very strict about, “You don’t take things out, you watch<br />

things like this.” Did you hear anything, did anyone have any thoughts about building the<br />

observatories on the mountain Hawaiians or local people<br />

No.<br />

You didn’t hear any one talk about it<br />

Only thing, you see the adze quarry, Barbara and I went several times to see there. It<br />

seems like, you know all those rocks there, chips. Must have been there for long time<br />

because it seems like, whether through human travel, walking on it, that thing has kind <strong>of</strong><br />

gone down a little bit.<br />

Yes, you’re right, where the chips are, the fragments when they were shaping the preformed<br />

stone. You actually see a groove where the feet traveled across it for centuries.<br />

Gee, must have been a lot <strong>of</strong> people here. Or maybe certain time <strong>of</strong> the year when that<br />

thing…the mountain is after snow or something, that thing is worked and the guys go<br />

down. More like a trail already you know.<br />

Yes. And there are little caves up in there you know, you find ‘öpihi. You can see where<br />

people were actually sheltering you know. Very interesting.<br />

Yes.<br />

Mr. Lee, pardon me when I transcribe this if I make a mistake with some <strong>of</strong> the Chinese<br />

names in spelling. I’ll do the best I can, please pardon me.<br />

No trouble.<br />

I’m going to bring the transcripts home to you and your wife, and she’ll enjoy reading<br />

through it and you can mark anything down. We’ll get it so we can get it nice and as a<br />

part <strong>of</strong> a history, a collection <strong>of</strong> oral histories you know. It will be a very important thing.<br />

Okay.<br />

<strong>Mauna</strong> <strong>Kea</strong>– “Ka Piko Kaulana o ka ‘Äina”<br />

Kumu Pono Associates LLC<br />

A Collection <strong>of</strong> <strong>Oral</strong> <strong>History</strong> Interviews (HiMK67-050606) A:418

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