Mauna Kea Oral History Appendix - Office of Mauna Kea Management

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You heard though, Kanakaleonui side I think or something right
Yes, that’s the only place.
Hmm.
Then my cousin [thinking] one not too big pu‘u, steep one, go pass Kanakaleonui.
Here’s Kanakaleonui [looking at map].
Yes.
Pu‘u Ka‘ali‘ali.
Pu‘u Ka‘ali‘ali, that’s the one. Woodside and Joe Medeiros was telling me one time, we
had a Utility Man for Fish & Game by the name of Frank Pavao.
Yes.
That was before I went to work there. They told him, they take him up, he and Joe up to
Hale Pöhaku, and they going to walk over to Kanakaleonui, and then he said, “Frank you
pick us up at Ka‘ali‘ali, that’s about I think two miles from Kanakaleonui. So, but there’s
one small ridge some place between Kanakaleonui and Kahinahina. They get one ridge
they call Kaiwiiwi.
Right, here’s Kaiwiiwi.
Frank, I guess he didn’t get it right or he came to Kaiwiiwi he parked, he wait.
‘Auwë!
That’s a long way you know.
It is double, more than double [chuckles].
Yes. So, Woodside and Joe was waiting over here for him.
At Ka‘ali‘ali.
And he was waiting over there for him. Late that evening, they just walked, Joe and
Woodside they walked from there [laughing].
‘Auwë! Poor thing, what, nuha
Yes, Woodside told me, “You know when I tell, you go down there. You be sure you go.”
[chuckling].
Yes [chuckling]. Oh, thank you so much. This is so important. What I’m going to do is,
we’ll get this transcribed and I’d like to come back another time when we can sit down
with you and your wife to talk a little bit more. By the way…
You know another thing, we were talking about that akua lele. Down at Nohonaohae, at
that gate.
Yes.
I never saw that, but I saw for a few years, I don’t know how many years, maybe four,
maybe five years. In the evening, if I come down, there was a blue light up in the air.
More like a star you know, maybe hundred feet or hundred-fifty feet, it just moves around.
I asked people, nobody seen that, but I saw ‘em.
Yes.
One night, when I go to Waimea, Kohala, you know dark already see, then I saw that. I
don’t know four or five years maybe.
Where were you staying at that time
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