Mauna Kea Oral History Appendix - Office of Mauna Kea Management

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Yes, yes.
You kind of applied that with the nënë
Oh, yes.
That’s what you did
You do with any kind, dogs, cats, horses, cattle, pigs, anything.
Yes. So, that’s how you could track your nënë when you were there
Yes. You go down there…
So, you would select, wild breed with the Shipman stock like that
Yes. He kept going, but sometimes, no work. You got to watch you see, this no work, this
one there not too much fertile eggs on that. We try another male, maybe.
Yes.
And he go down, yeah it works, you got to try. It works. Well, when you keep records,
you can’t do ‘em like how you say, all the work, the helpers, seven to four, they pau hana.
Which is normal, it’s right. But the records got to be worked.
All the time.
I’d spend nights over there, working.
Yes.
That’s where it goes, and when you get down there, you start breeding ‘em good. Those
years, right after that in the ‘60s we go.
Were you, your program at Pöhakuloa, did you make fence, penned areas so that the
birds could be out
Yes. It’s all out. Our pens, first they built, it was fifty feet wide and hundred foot long.
That’s real big.
Yes.
So we increased…the fence is still there, all fallen down. We can cut ‘em up, like I figure
out if we cut ‘em down to twenty five. So, where there used to be one pair, we put four
pairs.
I see.
They separate them. It worked out good.
Was it covered also
Also. All covered.
Wire cover
Wire fence out, wire buried out there so the mongoose cannot go dig inside.
Now, your pens, did you leave…if there was pükiawe or anything inside, did you leave
the plants in
Yes. We put some plants for to stay inside there. I put plum trees inside there [chuckles].
For real, oh!
Wild olive trees and stuff there.
Yes. Oh.
That’s good, they like it. They kind of go hide over there, get the shade.
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A Collection of Oral History Interviews (HiMK67-050606) A:408