Mauna Kea Oral History Appendix - Office of Mauna Kea Management
Mauna Kea Oral History Appendix - Office of Mauna Kea Management Mauna Kea Oral History Appendix - Office of Mauna Kea Management
AL: KM: AL: KM: AL: KM: AL: KM: AL: KM: AL: KM: AL: KM: AL: KM: AL: KM: AL: KM: AL: KM: AL: KM: AL: KM: AL: KM: AL: KM: AL: At Waiki‘i. You know the houses, you know where the managers house Yes. Who was the manager at Waiki‘i when you were there There were two. first a guy named…he was a Russian, George Elarionoff. George Elarionoff was there when you were there initially At first. Then about two years later, he left and then Alex Bell. Alex Bell, Teddy’s father Teddy’s father. Came in. The house would be, the houses basically, this is the big hill here [Pu‘u Ku‘i Kahekili – looking at map], the houses were right around… …where is the Turkey Pen Yes, okay. Here’s the Turkey Pen here [pointing to area on map]. Okay. What it says here, Mac… Mac Hill they call it. Oh, the turkey farm, so our camp is over here, there was quite a few houses. They had thirty-six working employees. Oh. You think there were that many houses about or ‘Cause some of them had families right, live in individual houses Well, the bachelors, they had just a building with maybe five or six rooms and kitchen. Bunk house like Bunk house. Oh, and at that time, so you lived in the bunk house, a common house No. They had…near the Turkey Pen, right where the Turkey Pens are anyway, they had a house there. That used to be for important guests that go up Waiki‘i. Yes. They want to rest, or people you know, Alfred Carter’s friends maybe or Parker Ranch friends. They can go up there stay one, two months and stuff. Later on, of course, they assigned that house to me with one helper. Two of us, we were single men, we lived there. Yes. You know where Alex Bell was living Uh-hmm. The managers house. How close was that house to yours, you think Oh, [thinking] maybe sixty yards from there. You know where the wagon, where the carriage house was Where they put the wagons for the corn and then had the big corn cribs Yes, was makai. Across. So you’re makai of there Uh-hmm. Mauna Kea– “Ka Piko Kaulana o ka ‘Äina” Kumu Pono Associates LLC A Collection of Oral History Interviews (HiMK67-050606) A:370
KM: AL: KM: AL: KM: AL: KM: AL: KM: AL: BL: KM: AL: BL: AL: BL: AL: KM: AL: KM: AL: KM: AL: KM: AL: KM: AL: KM: AL: KM: AL: BL: KM: And the Turkey Pen, was that also near the chicken area Yes, all incorporated there. Okay, good. That’s good, I think I know right where it was. And did they plant a bunch of orchard trees, walnuts and stuff Oh. Right in my place. Right there. Okay, now I know exactly where you are, okay. Well, see, too bad that all those trees, gone. Yes, the walnuts, apricots, plums, pears, apples, all gone. Yes. Those walnuts taste better than any of them that came from the mainland. The thing when you eat ‘em, sweet. Wow! And then they gathered all types of apples. One is called Gravenstein I think. Gravenstein. Yes, Gravenstein. Had quite a few Peerman, and Baldwin. McIntosh No, they didn’t have. I understand McIntosh is an Eastern apple, I don’t know. Had Newtown Pippins. Newtowns, yes. Newtown Pippins are real good, good baking apples. Oh! Very tart but good eating. You know when tart, you put brown sugar on and roast ‘em, see. It was a wonderful orchard then Yes. And your house was… Right around here. Right on the side there. Oh! Were there…one of the interesting things you know the houses they took all down yeah Uh-hmm. Went to what they call Small Waiki‘i yeah, Waimea side like that Uh-hmm. One thing that’s still there of course, is the old manager’s house. Uh-hmm. It’s been renovated. But you know, the mortar bread ovens Yes. Yes, like the old Portuguese ovens. Yes, the ferno. There are still three or four of those ovens there. Mauna Kea– “Ka Piko Kaulana o ka ‘Äina” Kumu Pono Associates LLC A Collection of Oral History Interviews (HiMK67-050606) A:371
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At Waiki‘i.<br />
You know the houses, you know where the managers house<br />
Yes.<br />
Who was the manager at Waiki‘i when you were there<br />
There were two. first a guy named…he was a Russian, George Elarion<strong>of</strong>f.<br />
George Elarion<strong>of</strong>f was there when you were there initially<br />
At first. Then about two years later, he left and then Alex Bell.<br />
Alex Bell, Teddy’s father<br />
Teddy’s father.<br />
Came in. The house would be, the houses basically, this is the big hill here [Pu‘u Ku‘i<br />
Kahekili – looking at map], the houses were right around…<br />
…where is the Turkey Pen<br />
Yes, okay. Here’s the Turkey Pen here [pointing to area on map].<br />
Okay. What it says here, Mac…<br />
Mac Hill they call it.<br />
Oh, the turkey farm, so our camp is over here, there was quite a few houses. They had<br />
thirty-six working employees.<br />
Oh. You think there were that many houses about or ‘Cause some <strong>of</strong> them had families<br />
right, live in individual houses<br />
Well, the bachelors, they had just a building with maybe five or six rooms and kitchen.<br />
Bunk house like<br />
Bunk house.<br />
Oh, and at that time, so you lived in the bunk house, a common house<br />
No. They had…near the Turkey Pen, right where the Turkey Pens are anyway, they had<br />
a house there. That used to be for important guests that go up Waiki‘i.<br />
Yes.<br />
They want to rest, or people you know, Alfred Carter’s friends maybe or Parker Ranch<br />
friends. They can go up there stay one, two months and stuff. Later on, <strong>of</strong> course, they<br />
assigned that house to me with one helper. Two <strong>of</strong> us, we were single men, we lived<br />
there.<br />
Yes. You know where Alex Bell was living<br />
Uh-hmm.<br />
The managers house. How close was that house to yours, you think<br />
Oh, [thinking] maybe sixty yards from there.<br />
You know where the wagon, where the carriage house was Where they put the wagons<br />
for the corn and then had the big corn cribs<br />
Yes, was makai.<br />
Across. So you’re makai <strong>of</strong> there<br />
Uh-hmm.<br />
<strong>Mauna</strong> <strong>Kea</strong>– “Ka Piko Kaulana o ka ‘Äina”<br />
Kumu Pono Associates LLC<br />
A Collection <strong>of</strong> <strong>Oral</strong> <strong>History</strong> Interviews (HiMK67-050606) A:370