Mauna Kea Oral History Appendix - Office of Mauna Kea Management
Mauna Kea Oral History Appendix - Office of Mauna Kea Management Mauna Kea Oral History Appendix - Office of Mauna Kea Management
AL: KM: AL: KM: AL: KM: AL: KM: AL: KM: AL: KM: AL: KM: AL: KM: AL: KM: AL: KM: AL: KM: AL: KM: They go down there, they shine the flashlight, and first they count how many hen turkeys in the flock. And they count how many male turkeys, the gobblers. They leave one gobbler to ten females. In other words if there was thirteen gobblers in the flock there, they take ten and leave…they had about twenty hens or something. Well, they put with the flashlight they put the loop over the turkey. And see how many, they put the rope and the guy down below, he hold the aho see and when get ‘em all, the guy come down and they pull the turkey down. Must have made big noise [chuckles]. Big noise, but it’s dark, see. They go down there and they catch the turkeys, they fold the wings, they tie the legs and they pile them there. And then in the morning, they tell the…in those days, all wagons. All horses, wagons and stuff. The guy that catches the birds, he’ll tell the wagon driver to go over there, there’s so many, they’re tied up, and go down. So the guy brings them all back down to what you call the Turkey Pen. Yes, yes. Then from there, we clip one wing, the feathers of one wing. Ah, yes, yes. So when they want fly, they’re off balance. Yes. Then that’s when they feed a lot of corn to ‘um. Ah! Fatten ‘em up Fatten ‘em up for Thanksgiving Holiday and the Christmas Holiday. Yes, yes. Always have a bunch there. Easter. And of course like Mr. Carter, he entertains, so they call up and tell me to…all year round you know. To kill maybe three turkeys or one turkey and then they’ll have…where the chicken farm was there, they kill so many fryers or roasters. That’s my job to do. Wow! And Hartwell Carter loved duck, so he got me some ducks. In fact, he got me some big ducks, I never seen those ducks so big, even till today. Wow! I don’t know where he got ‘em from. Anyway, he got ‘em, and they all fattened up. Every week I kill whatever they want for standing order. Uh-hmm. And Hartwell, when we have ducks, which we always have, he tells me, “Alright, you kill me so many ducks each week.” Yes, yes. That’s the way. Then of course, Parker Ranch had a store in Waimea. Yes. That’s where the eggs go to the store to sell. Some people, employees, want a chicken or two, they come to me and I’ll sell ‘em. Yes. May I ask you then, what do you think was your weekly take on eggs What was about the weekly egg production, do you think Mauna Kea– “Ka Piko Kaulana o ka ‘Äina” Kumu Pono Associates LLC A Collection of Oral History Interviews (HiMK67-050606) A:368
AL: KM: AL: KM: AL: KM: AL: BL: AL: KM: BL: AL: KM: AL: KM: AL: KM: AL: BL: KM: BL: KM: AL: KM: AL: KM: AL: KM: [chuckles – shaking head] Or was it monthly or you know [thinking] Gee, I can’t tell you now, that’s long time ago. Yes, yes. I kept an accurate record. Alfred Carter, he’s a strict man, I understand. But he’s a good man. You would do your job alright, he’s okay. Yes. He come over there, he’d talk. He was very proud about that. Then when Alfred started to get (older), he turned more responsibility over to Hartwell. And Hartwell liked me too. I liked those two to work for. Yes. Was that in about the ‘40s, mid ‘40s or… No. No. I stayed there only four and a half years. Okay. And like I said, those days there, it was all horses. And Waiki‘i is fairly dry country you know. Yes. So, when the horses go back and forth and all in the plow fields all over there when it gets dusty, it’s really dusty there and that got into me. Oh! My doctor told me to… With all the kükae too. Yes. The combination is deadly. Oh. After four and a half years my doctor told me…they couldn’t find out what was wrong with me because he was in Hilo. He was a Parker Ranch doctor. There used to be plenty, plenty pheasants. Pheasants just like they go in the corn field they eat, like the oats. So, well, Alfred Carter, Parker Ranch days, a lot of people go out you know, friends and all that. Yes, yes. One day the doctor said he went up, he hunted, he said, oh he enjoyed it. But, the next time I went to visit him. Every six months, I go to visit with him. Then he asked me, “Are you by any chance working that place where they have a lot of pheasants and corn fields” I said, “Yes.” He said, “That’s your trouble.” Oh, for real He said I had too much bronchitis. He told me “I suggest you relocate.” Yes, yes. So, at that time for those four and a half years or so, you were living mauka at Waiki‘i Mauna Kea– “Ka Piko Kaulana o ka ‘Äina” Kumu Pono Associates LLC A Collection of Oral History Interviews (HiMK67-050606) A:369
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[chuckles – shaking head]<br />
Or was it monthly or you know<br />
[thinking] Gee, I can’t tell you now, that’s long time ago.<br />
Yes, yes.<br />
I kept an accurate record. Alfred Carter, he’s a strict man, I understand. But he’s a good<br />
man. You would do your job alright, he’s okay.<br />
Yes.<br />
He come over there, he’d talk.<br />
He was very proud about that.<br />
Then when Alfred started to get (older), he turned more responsibility over to Hartwell.<br />
And Hartwell liked me too. I liked those two to work for.<br />
Yes. Was that in about the ‘40s, mid ‘40s or…<br />
No.<br />
No. I stayed there only four and a half years.<br />
Okay.<br />
And like I said, those days there, it was all horses. And Waiki‘i is fairly dry country you<br />
know.<br />
Yes.<br />
So, when the horses go back and forth and all in the plow fields all over there when it<br />
gets dusty, it’s really dusty there and that got into me.<br />
Oh!<br />
My doctor told me to…<br />
With all the kükae too.<br />
Yes.<br />
The combination is deadly.<br />
Oh.<br />
After four and a half years my doctor told me…they couldn’t find out what was wrong with<br />
me because he was in Hilo. He was a Parker Ranch doctor. There used to be plenty,<br />
plenty pheasants. Pheasants just like they go in the corn field they eat, like the oats. So,<br />
well, Alfred Carter, Parker Ranch days, a lot <strong>of</strong> people go out you know, friends and all<br />
that.<br />
Yes, yes.<br />
One day the doctor said he went up, he hunted, he said, oh he enjoyed it. But, the next<br />
time I went to visit him. Every six months, I go to visit with him. Then he asked me, “Are<br />
you by any chance working that place where they have a lot <strong>of</strong> pheasants and corn<br />
fields” I said, “Yes.” He said, “That’s your trouble.”<br />
Oh, for real<br />
He said I had too much bronchitis. He told me “I suggest you relocate.”<br />
Yes, yes. So, at that time for those four and a half years or so, you were living mauka at<br />
Waiki‘i<br />
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Kumu Pono Associates LLC<br />
A Collection <strong>of</strong> <strong>Oral</strong> <strong>History</strong> Interviews (HiMK67-050606) A:369