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DW: Yes. UW: When we went out of Honokanai‘a we went up and we went down the ravine to Kealaikahiki. DW: Hmm…I never did that road, I walked… [looking at maps] Yes, good maps! KM: So, you folks have some photos from your old days going out holoholo like that, working on the mountain DW: I don’t know where. LW: He was looking for when where he and Harry were putting up a sign somewhere, he wanted to show you, but he couldn’t find ‘em. Group: [looking through slide collection – referencing various photos] DW: This is Hawai‘i… KM: …This is Pu‘u Ke‘eke‘e, Külua. This is Pu‘u Koko, Pu‘u Mau‘u, right in here. Interesting your story too, ‘cause I’d heard about that Waikahälulu, when they [chuckles] dynamite ‘em, mess up the water source. DW: Yes. This is a fabulous trail, I’ve walked the lava. KM: Ah, Ke‘ämoku DW: Walked this a couple of times to Pöhakuloa. KM: Wow! DW: Frank or somebody would get the jeep. UW: They drop you off and you’d walk up DW: Uh-hmm. KM: Gee. UW: Those guys must have thought you were nuts [chuckles]. DW: Yes. Describes travel around Mauna Kea; names various pu‘u; and recalls work done by CCC: KM: Here’s Pu‘u Kole that you were talking about, so somewhere mauka of here is where you folks found the ‘ua‘u that first time DW: Yes. KM: Here’s Kalepeamoa, Pu‘u Kalepeamoa right there. DW: Pretty much in this country [pointing to area a little above Pu‘u Kole]. KM: Okay, so a pu‘u on the mauka side. Keonehehe‘e and the old trail that ran up. DW: But you know the fence followed…the fence on the… [pauses] KM: You’re right, it came below Kole DW: There was a zig-zag fence. KM: That’s right. DW: You know the map you have [HTS Plat 613] KM: Yes. DW: The zig-zag fence… The CCC built the good fence. Mauna Kea– “Ka Piko Kaulana o ka ‘Äina” Kumu Pono Associates LLC A Collection of Oral History Interviews (HiMK67-050606) A:348

KM: Right here, here’s this fence line here. DW: Yes. But the CCC made a new one, and they…apparently a previous fence that the ranch had. But they removed it, and the Army and the CCC fenced a bunch of live mämane trees. You can see the line. When the conservation district was drawn, we recommended, we wanted the line to include the mämane trees. KM: Yes. DW: But they didn’t do it. KM: ‘Auwë! DW: But, in the general revision (during the 5 year review of the Conservation District Boundary), they did. But I don’t think they fenced it. But it was in the Conservation District… [asks Ulalia for Mauna Kea Quad – 1924 series] UW: [pointing to pencil marks on the map] What are you marking over here DW: Yes. This is the… Okay, Kole. KM: Yes, there’s Kole. DW: This was the CCC fence. KM: Yes. DW: But this is good mämane [pointing to out of fence line]. KM: You were hoping that they would take that lower section so that the mämane would go in. Here’s Kahinahina… DW: We did include it in the conservation district, but I don’t think they fenced it. KM: Yes. This is wonderful that you’ve got these, these maps are hard to come by now. And you know ‘cause they keep more place names on them, than the later maps. DW: It’s amazing how accurate the contours are, but also how inaccurate they are in some places. KM: Yes. DW: Because the guys that drew these contours, in a lot of cases they did it from air. But some places they didn’t do it by air and from what I’m told. KM: Amazing! Waiau… Describes use of ahu to mark trails to the summit region: DW: There’s Keanakäko‘i. KM: Yes, right in here and evidently the trail, actually there’s, you know you can see the trail that runs around in there. You remember seeing the upright shrines on some areas Stones standing upright on areas in some places DW: The ahu KM: Yes, the ahu. DW: Yes, the ahu. They also had steel posts marking the trail because the snow would cover up the trail. KM: That’s right. Wonderful that you guys have these maps. UW: Yes, I told him don’t throw anything away… UW: [looking at a slide] This is you going where, what are you standing by I can’t read the sign. Mauna Kea– “Ka Piko Kaulana o ka ‘Äina” Kumu Pono Associates LLC A Collection of Oral History Interviews (HiMK67-050606) A:349

KM: Right here, here’s this fence line here.<br />

DW: Yes. But the CCC made a new one, and they…apparently a previous fence that the<br />

ranch had. But they removed it, and the Army and the CCC fenced a bunch <strong>of</strong> live<br />

mämane trees. You can see the line. When the conservation district was drawn, we<br />

recommended, we wanted the line to include the mämane trees.<br />

KM: Yes.<br />

DW: But they didn’t do it.<br />

KM: ‘Auwë!<br />

DW: But, in the general revision (during the 5 year review <strong>of</strong> the Conservation District<br />

Boundary), they did. But I don’t think they fenced it. But it was in the Conservation<br />

District… [asks Ulalia for <strong>Mauna</strong> <strong>Kea</strong> Quad – 1924 series]<br />

UW: [pointing to pencil marks on the map] What are you marking over here<br />

DW: Yes. This is the… Okay, Kole.<br />

KM: Yes, there’s Kole.<br />

DW: This was the CCC fence.<br />

KM: Yes.<br />

DW: But this is good mämane [pointing to out <strong>of</strong> fence line].<br />

KM: You were hoping that they would take that lower section so that the mämane would go in.<br />

Here’s Kahinahina…<br />

DW: We did include it in the conservation district, but I don’t think they fenced it.<br />

KM: Yes. This is wonderful that you’ve got these, these maps are hard to come by now. And<br />

you know ‘cause they keep more place names on them, than the later maps.<br />

DW: It’s amazing how accurate the contours are, but also how inaccurate they are in some<br />

places.<br />

KM: Yes.<br />

DW: Because the guys that drew these contours, in a lot <strong>of</strong> cases they did it from air. But<br />

some places they didn’t do it by air and from what I’m told.<br />

KM: Amazing! Waiau…<br />

Describes use <strong>of</strong> ahu to mark trails to the summit region:<br />

DW: There’s <strong>Kea</strong>nakäko‘i.<br />

KM: Yes, right in here and evidently the trail, actually there’s, you know you can see the trail<br />

that runs around in there. You remember seeing the upright shrines on some areas<br />

Stones standing upright on areas in some places<br />

DW: The ahu<br />

KM: Yes, the ahu.<br />

DW: Yes, the ahu. They also had steel posts marking the trail because the snow would cover<br />

up the trail.<br />

KM: That’s right. Wonderful that you guys have these maps.<br />

UW: Yes, I told him don’t throw anything away…<br />

UW: [looking at a slide] This is you going where, what are you standing by I can’t read the<br />

sign.<br />

<strong>Mauna</strong> <strong>Kea</strong>– “Ka Piko Kaulana o ka ‘Äina”<br />

Kumu Pono Associates LLC<br />

A Collection <strong>of</strong> <strong>Oral</strong> <strong>History</strong> Interviews (HiMK67-050606) A:349

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