Mauna Kea Oral History Appendix - Office of Mauna Kea Management

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And he wanted to go back to the Big Island. I don’t know how we found him.
Do you think Ah Fat when he was raising turkeys, do you think he was out at Waiki‘i
Yes.
He was at Waiki‘i on the Turkey Farm there
Yes.
Oh! That’s interesting.
I think Woodworth knew about the guy, he (Woodworth) knew the problem, and with a
poultry guy that they could get to work real cheap, a bachelor, who would live at Mauna
Kea (Pöhakuloa), you know.
Yes. Well, he was ma‘a to that land.
Yes, and just a few nënë. I mean the flock was only fifteen birds. But we were lucky to
get him.
Hmm, amazing yeah!
He worked out very well.
Discusses the old Kalai‘eha-Waimea road route; and why Bill Bryan fought to have the army take the
Saddle Road out on the lava flows, in order to protect the valuable mämane forests near the base of
Mauna Kea:
KM: You know the old road, where Mauna Kea State Park is now
DW: Yes.
KM: Okay. Is that where your folks camp was also, where the State Park building is
DW: Oh, yeah.
KM: And the old road used to run straight through there right, out to Kalai‘eha
DW: Yes, Humu‘ula Road.
KM: Now, for some reason has that big bend, that’s not how you folks went right You went
the old road right through there
DW: No, no, the Saddle Road when the Army paved the Saddle Road, built the Saddle Road,
they found out that… Bryan was the forester, they didn’t like the idea of that forest. It was
much easier to build a road on the ‘ä‘ä.
KM: I see, so that’s why they pushed it out
DW: Yes, uh-hmm.
KM: Otherwise it would have been within the boundaries or within some prevue of the
forestry
DW: Could be, yeah.
KM: See, this is the old alignment here
DW: Uh-hmm, yeah.
KM: It’s easier on this map, HTS Plat 701.
DW: It got onto the lava.
KM: That’s exactly what it did. I was trying to figure out why anyone in their right mind…
[pointing out locations on map] Here’s the old road, here’s ‘Oma‘oköili, and the camp
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